KitKat kernal source code released for Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Last week, Polish owners of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 started receiving Android 4.4.2, also known as firmware version N9005XXUENA6. As we explained before, Samsung has a large R&D center in Poland, which probably explains why that region received the update before, say, the U.S. Consider it to be similar to Motorola's soak test where a smaller number of units are tested with a software update just to make sure that any problems with the update are limited to the small number of units being tested.
Last month, French carrier SFR revealed that the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (along with the Samsung Galaxy S4) would be receiving Android 4.4 in late January, which dovetails perfectly with the source code release.
source: Samsung via SamMobile, GSMArena
1. JGuinan007 (Posts: 605; Member since: 19 May 2011)
so when will us carriers push out the update late march?
2. Dowson (unregistered)
because they need to add their own crap then the "rom" should get certification again.
3. aranauser (Posts: 47; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
This is the reason i love samsung.sony and htc need to work faster.they are just playing catchup
5. xperiaDROID (Posts: 4821; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Yes, Samsung is fast at rolling out updates. But fast doesn't mean it's good, remember Samsung rolled out the 4.3 update for the Galaxy S3 that's full of bugs once? After that, they cancelled it and after like few weeks later they roll out again? And speaking of 4.3, Samsung doesn't really update the whole phone software, it's just a newer UI like on the S4, Galaxy Gear support, that's all.
Sony and HTC may be slower than Samsung, but they have some nice features and new UI included on their updates so it's worth to wait.
7. maherk (Posts: 426; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Can you please tell me what features sony and htc add? The last time I checked, samsung adds all the new features introduced with their latest flagships to their old ones, as long as the hardware isn't an issue(motion sensors for example)
8. xperiaDROID (Posts: 4821; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Sony 4.3 update - new UI like Xperia Z1, new keyboard, new camera UI with new features, new themes. (My Xperia Z is updated to 4.3)
HTC 4.3 update - new keyboard, able to disable Blinkfeed, new features on Blinkfeed, updated HTC Zoe.
I tried the Note 2 with 4.3 update and I can say that Samsung didn't really update much on the software. There's the new UI like S4, , new keyboard, Galaxy Gear support and also there's a new Sound and Shot feature on the camera. That's not really much of an update right?
11. maherk (Posts: 426; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
You forgot to add the TRIM support; better RAM management; a new Samsung keyboard; a new lockscreen with multiple widgets; a new feature to change clock size and set a personal message; new screen modes, much like flagship smartphone, Galaxy S4; Daydream, a feature introduced in Android 4.2 Jelly Bean; new Driving mode; new actionable notifications; move-to-SD-card feature; new camera mode (sound and shot); new additions in notification centre; completely revamped settings UI; new S Voice and some new Samsung apps like Calculator, Clock, Contacts, Gallery, and Music
19. joey_sfb (Posts: 1973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I do like my Note 2 better with 4.3. Everything just works better.
You can also upgrade your S Note via Samsung App store to the one use in Note 3.
13. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6623; Member since: 14 May 2012)
First off, roll out began again about a week or two after it deployed. Samsung added as much as possible. 4.3 was the appetizer. 4.4 will be the entree.
10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
HTC was the first OEM to launch 4.3 and 4.4 for a non-Nexus device.
14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6623; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Yeah but they did it to only one device. Sony is beginning to update several phones to 4.4. Samsung should have 4.4 on the S4 and Note 3 by the end of the month, which is two versus one. The S3, Note II and Galaxy Mega are in the future.
Point being - when it comes to updating phones to a newer software, HTC is the worst. Props to Sony and Samsung.
18. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
HTC has said the One Max and One Mini will both be getting 4.4 in 90 days, that was in early November, so they should roll it out by the end of this month or very early February. The DNA will get it before Q1 ends, and they are currently evaluating some of the Desire series for it, and if they get approved, it will probably come mid/late 2014. So, that's 4 confirmed devices, and maybe 2 or 3 additional possibilities.
HTC is getting their stuff together.
20. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Oh yeah, and obviously the Butterfly and Butterfly S will be updated. So, 6 confirmed before Q1 ends, and we'll get more information about the Desire devices soon.
22. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1929; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
That's not 6 confirmed devices, Bezerk. They might get updated, but you just speculated on some of them. Big difference.
23. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The One, One Max, One Mini, DNA, Butterfly, and Butterfly S will be updated. Why would they update the DNA and not the Butterfly? They're the same phone. And since they're updating the DNA/Butterfly, they would obviously update the Butterfly S considering it's the successor to the Butterfly. I admit, it's not official, but it's just common sense.
If I had said something like, "The Desire 601 has the same specs as the One Mini, and since the One Mini is getting updated, that means the Desire 601 is confirmed for the update, too." I would understand the flaw in my logic. They're both in different classes, so obviously one might not get updated because it has less priority, but both the devices I "speculated" on are/were flagship devices with already confirmed equivalents.
24. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1929; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I hear you, man. It definitely makes sense. I'm just saying as someone who's been burned by HTC's past, sh*tty update history that I've seen them do dumber things.
26. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
But I've never heard of HTC updating one flagship and not update a similar high end device. Every update the Amaze got, the Sensation got as well. Same for the One X+ and One X. Devices in the same class with similar specs have gotten the same updates. That means the One and Butterfly S would get the same updates, as well as the DNA and Butterfly.
I know there is a very, VERY small chance the Butterfly and Butterfly S won't get updated, but with them being so similar to devices that have already been confirmed (especially the Butterfly), and they are all in the flagship class, I don't see why they wouldn't.
27. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1929; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
You've never heard of it, but I assure you it's happened. HTC Desire HD & the Incredible S were essentially the same device for different markets. The latter was upgraded to ICS, but the former was not. Same SOC clocked to the same speed, same amount of RAM, same screen resolution, & the Incredible S even had a little less storage. No reason the Desire HD shouldn't have gotten it.
28. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1929; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Don't try to bring this up either. It's bullsh*t. Like I said, the Incredible S has even less storage, so how was it able to get ICS? I'm guessing sales had more to do with this decision than anything else.
Funny thing--I commented on this article a year & a half ago.
29. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1929; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Sorry to keep bombarding you with posts, but I forgot about the Droid Incredible 2 which is pretty much the same exact device as the Incredible S. Didn't get ICS either. The relationship between those devices is quite analogous to that between the Butterfly & the DNA. Not saying there's a good chance HTC won't actually take the DNA to 4.4, but it wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't be the first time they promised an update for a device & then backtracked on it.
30. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
HTC apparently used a lot of the same hardware for their devices that year. The Desire HD, Inspire 4G, Mytouch 4G, Incredible 2, Incredible S, Thunderbolt, and Desire S all used the same processor/RAM configuration, but only the latter 3 made it to ICS. They all had the same resolution display as well, though varying types of display technology. Maybe that was their problem; too many devices, not enough time/money for developers. Though, you would think the standardized hardware would cut development time substantially.
I'm not trying to make excuses for HTC, because that is pretty terrible regardless of what they had to say about it, but they obviously had a reason. Major OEMs don't just look at a device that can have an update and say "Eh, don't wanna." It just doesn't work that way. Whether it was an internal problem HTC didn't want to admit to, or an actual hardware problem no one can really say, but there was a reason.
Either way, HTC seems to have turned themselves around lately, aside from the One X(+) being stopped at 4.2.2 and Sense 5, but that was most likely a problem with Tegra 3, it was the worst quad core of 2012 compared to Samsung and Qualcomm.
Time will tell whether HTC really means business like they've been showing throughout 2013, or if it was just a sudden burst of enthusiasm that will die down in 2014.
31. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1929; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Like I said, my best guess is sales, but we'll never know for sure. Also, keep in mind that the Thunderbolt didn't even get ICS until a little under a year ago, well over a year after it debuted & well after most folks had probably already dumped the device. 4.2.2 was already out at that time.That's just pitiful. Anyway, I always enjoy our conversations. We disagree on a lot of things, but we also agree on some things. Either way, we always keep it respectful. I like that. I've told you before. You're a stand up guy.
32. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3656; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I don't think so, from what I've read the Desire HD sold rather well (at least in the UK), yet it still didn't get ICS.
The Thunderbolt was just a mess, a HTC rep actually apologized for it; not a flaw with the device, just the entire device in general. That's pretty sad.
It's always nice to have rational and calm debates in comment sections usually full of petty insults and half-baked arguments. You're one of the few on this site that actually has manners and solid arguments.
4. Jayshmay (Posts: 65; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
Hmm,...I'd like to hear something about the U.S. version of T-Mobile's S4.......
15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6623; Member since: 14 May 2012)
T-Mobile updates their phones pretty fast, so end of the month or first week of February is my guess.
9. skymitch89 (Posts: 982; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
It'd be nice to get Kit Kat update on Note 3 just a short time (like a month) after I upgrade to it. Last time I upgraded to a Samsung device (Epic Touch last Feb) I got Jelly Bean update not too long after.
17. nexusdude (Posts: 108; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)
You've got a typo in the title, Alan. It's kernEl.
21. elocom (banned) (Posts: 36; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)
Here is the full list of devices getting KitKat vividroid.com/list-of-android-devices-getting-a-kitkat/