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Apple's Bounce Scroll patent is now invalid in the U.S.

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Apple's Bounce Scroll patent is now invalid in the U.S.
It seems Apple will no longer be able to use the so called "Bounce Scroll", or "rubber banding" patent to attack its competitors, as the US Patent Office has decided to invalidate its patent. Apparently, Samsung has managed to prove its point in front of the USPTO by seeking out some intriguing prior art, involving a "controlling content display" by AOL/Luigi Lira from 2003 and a "continuous scrolling list with acceleration".

This is a most interesting turn of events, since Apple used this patent during its trial against Samsung earlier this year. The verdict of the trial said that Samsung has to pay $1.05 billion to Apple due to patent infringements, but with this new discovery, things might take an unexpected turn once again.

Still, the "Bounce Scroll" patent has been "tentatively" invalidated, which should mean that the outcome of this legal battle is still up in the air.

source: Foss Patents via Gizmodo

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posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:42 50

1. PowTheBowl (Posts: 82; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Even a "bounce scroll" was a patent? I didn't know that! Nonsense patent.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:48 34

4. Topcat488 (Posts: 1134; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


The judge told Apple to bounce the f*ck up outta here on that one. hehehe. Now bounce!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:32 21

20. MeoCao (unregistered)


I think the USPTO should carefully review every Apple utility patent as most of them are not their inventions but stolen ideas, just like this one.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 13:25

47. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


is not their job to investigate inventions, they care about patents 2 different things

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 13:53 1

49. Zero0 (Posts: 583; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


I know, right?

Patents are supposed to protect ideas. Not original ideas, but any idea. It could be stolen, even. However the idea came about, it's irrelevant. For this reason, I have taken out a loan, hired a legion of lawyers, and am currently working through the paperwork to file a patent on "a method of acquiring oxygen through organic tubing" and "a process for reacting carbohydrates with oxygen to produce energy."

Patents aren't inventions. They're just _about_ inventions. It's radically different.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:43 14

32. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


LMAO!!!
Can somebody spell Apple Got Screwed!
Oh wait I just did :)

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 11:16 3

44. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


this news made my day. keep it up Sammy. invalidate all the stupid patents and apple is screwed.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 20:04

53. phil2n (Posts: 466; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


you know everything in apple is patented.. $ baby

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:49 30

5. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


You have used more than half of my screen name. I'll sue you.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:25 11

16. Ohrules (Posts: 314; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


http://www.chicagonow.com/daily-miracle/files/2012/03/nike.jpg

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:37 10

22. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


LMAO.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 10:00 6

37. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)


Great Humour after many days!!

Rotten Apple has become the base of Tech. joKes!!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:51 9

7. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)


Weird that You really didn't that?
It was an iconic apple patent..Apple felt proud of this!!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:49 6

33. MartyK (Posts: 704; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Yes they did!!, it was their best theft yet
(after the Xerox stealing and the Cisco's Iphone name)

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:32 5

19. -box- (Posts: 3770; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhh! Start knocking all of apple's down, USPTO, and start redeeming yourself!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:34 6

21. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3960; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


This is getting crazy now. I just hope Apple doesn't try to patent air because then we are all screwed. I mean these patent people will literally grant any patent.

+1

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 10:39 3

40. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5701; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Sammy may have an additional strategy to mitigate Apple's 'judgement' - invalidate Apple's patents at the USPTO. If the patents are no longer valid, they can't be enforced....

Not a good day for Timmy and company.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:45 9

2. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


Good news indeed

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:46 8

3. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Yay!
I want it on my Android phone. I don't really like that blue glow thing. It is sometimes hard to see and it doesn't show up in some apps.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 06:51 9

6. someones4 (Posts: 618; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


lol. mf's had it coming. something so meaningless shouldn't be patented. luckily us proves that it has common sense left

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 21:35

54. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


To be honest, they coulda kept the patent. But for them to think ppl choose a Samsung phone over an iPhone because of that, and it cost Apple 1 billion...is insane.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:00 6

8. mrbtree98 (Posts: 50; Member since: 04 Aug 2012)


it's about time that this got thrown out and squashed. but as always apple will appeal. hope they lose though because i hate the blue light when you reach the bottom of the page as i really like having that over scroll because i go nuts with it for sh*ts and giggles

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:01 8

9. luckysrinu (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


patent wars bouncing back to apple

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:01 9

10. Ueliton (Posts: 34; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)


Nobody has received thumbs down yet... NO FANBOYS!!!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:27 7

17. Ohrules (Posts: 314; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


the irony!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 22:31 1

55. someones4 (Posts: 618; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


someone took the time to thumb all of us down. talk about loyalty

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:04 6

11. mercorp (Posts: 968; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


s**t...
Now pray that apple will not take this to court.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:38 3

23. protozeloz (Posts: 5372; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


They already did, and Samsung lost to this patent

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:06 4

12. mercorp (Posts: 968; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


And convince an ijury to put it back.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:11 3

13. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1258; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


The office finally realized how stupid some of the patents they gave out are. Let's take away everyone's patents, so all the companies can play nice :D and make awesome phones for all of us!!!!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:14 2

14. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


Depends on what the patents/ inventions/ technologies are. Not all patents are useless. Maybe even Apple has some good patents.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 10:34 1

38. tedkord (Posts: 4610; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


They do. I remember one story recently where they had applied for a patent for a method of using the speed and pressure of your finger typing to improve predictive typing. If they found a novel way, that's valid.

However, knowing Apple, they would then consider ALL methods of obstructive typing to be covered by the patent.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:17 1

15. lyndon420 (Posts: 1729; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Glad to hear it.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:29 4

18. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)


Hmm.....I think a lot of apples patents are going to be found invalid in the near future.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:40 2

24. protozeloz (Posts: 5372; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


And I think they're goes the last nail on the biased jury coffin, after all they said patent was valid during the trial, this may actually help Samsung pull a Google in there

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:49

25. Rocksteady (unregistered)


It's like they gave apple a wedgie.
Anyway, I personally prefer the cool blue Android light at the end of the list.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:51 1

26. tiara6918 (Posts: 1390; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Apple, you can't sue anytime you want. Look at what's happening now, you're putting yourself to shame.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 07:54 1

27. AndroidShiz (Posts: 145; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


This is probably a result of Google's streamlined patent search tool. In other news, Judge Koh, who worked as a consulting lawyer for Apple years ago before becoming a judge, is now considering a top position at the USPTO.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:38

31. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


You can never rule that out when VP of Mosanto lands in FDA ... corrupt politicians and business houses can make anything happen anywherfe in the world.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:08 1

28. APPLEpatentISaJOKE (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


I really hope this would bring innovative product that really innovative
(i.e not patenting bounce back, icon, round corner....)

thanks google for the android....

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:17

29. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


So one self proclaimed "iNNOVATION" on path of being busted finally :D

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:21

30. AndroidShiz (Posts: 145; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


Personally I think the way HTC and even Windows Phone has done the bounce back or end of page snap back feature is way cooler than Apples anyways. HTC with its accordion vertebrae style is my fav.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 08:54

34. Slammer (Posts: 996; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


It seems to me, that under the "previous art" standard, the next patent to be invalidated is the Tablet design. To me, this is more obvious than the rubber band effect.

John B.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 10:37 2

39. tedkord (Posts: 4610; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Let's not forget swipe to unlock. And unified search. Hell, most of Apple's utility and design patterns are either ripped off or not patent worthy due to obviousness.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 12:24

46. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5701; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Unified search has to be the next patent that gets invalidated. Searching across multiple entities (web and local) is in the realm of obvious.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 09:01

35. sonofzeus (Posts: 95; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Checkmate Apple!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 09:47

36. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I think its good as its not something I think a company should even have a patent for.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 10:43

41. tedkord (Posts: 4610; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I've been checking to see what spin BGR puts on this, but the story hasn't shown up there yet. Most likely, lil Johnnie's tears keep shorting out the Mac he writes on.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 10:51

42. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


Absolutely disgusted. Who in their right minds, or with an ounce of moral fibre would patent something with prior art.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 11:13

43. tedkord (Posts: 4610; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Stuff with prior art gets patented all the time, not just by Apple. With the sheet number of patents in existence, and the new ones being granted all the time, it's almost impossible to come up with a complex product that doesn't infringe something.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 11:23

45. ddeath (Posts: 158; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)


The USPTO is probably relooking at some of the patents that they have been approving and giving out a dime a dozen to Apple since they are being ridiculed at and losing credibility as a patent office. Patent for a black rectangle with rounded corners? COME ON!!

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 13:35

48. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


the judge made a big mistake by this ruling, stupid or not is a patent that was given to Apple and is her job to enforce it... still got faith she will do the right thing here

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 16:53 1

50. tedkord (Posts: 4610; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Did you even read the article? It wasn't a judge, it was the US patent office. And, yes it is their job to validate patents, and patents are not supposed to be allowed on things that already exist or are obvious. The mistake was in ever granting the patent in the first place.

Your blind allegiance to all things Apple is really showing.

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 18:55

51. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


This is why it doesnt pay to be a fanboy....with anything.

That 1 billion dollar settlement might get a wee bit smaller now....

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 19:07

52. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


by the time it's time for actual payout you never know it coul just be insignificant amount. Samsung will keep dragging the case and keep reaping benifits. As more and more utility patents go off the table large amount of cash slips out of apple's claims (and goes into atorney's pockets ... the real benificiaries of this dogfight) :)

posted on 23 Oct 2012, 23:21

56. pliskin1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


Bounce back scrolling was such a stupid patent, even my dumb phone has it. Hopefully they can overrule the pinch to zoom patent too.

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