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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 2w ago
↵limporgyuk said:

So surely if they're going to use an in house processor that's equivalent to last gen, they'll drop the price yeah?? If I'm spending $1200+ on a phone, I want the latest and greatest. I'll just by a Vivo at half the price with a better performing Mediatek chip, better cameras, bigger battery, faster charging.... Look at the Antutu rankings, look at DXO Mark rankings. Samsung have no justification for charging such high prices.

Been saying this for years. DXO Mark rankings show you the real results for the cameras on the S series and they are garbage.

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stferrari
stferrari
Arena Apprentice
• 2w ago
↵TuGa121 said:

I just did and guess what only one iphone was having hardware issue the iphone 12 thats one out of 17. To me its acceptable but then you google what samsung devices has hardware defects google comes back with al of the S series from the 21 to the 25 thats not acceptable. You have to be crazy to think thats ok. And were not going to talk about the NOTE 7.

All S series models since the S20 have been plagued by hardware defects, including issues with the motherboard and cameras.

Just FYI. I have had every other model year of S Ultra. Never had one issue. You may be right but it is not my nore the many other people I know who own Ssmsung S models experiences. Have loved every Ultra I've owned.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 2w agoedited
↵stferrari said:

Just FYI. I have had every other model year of S Ultra. Never had one issue. You may be right but it is not my nore the many other people I know who own Ssmsung S models experiences. Have loved every Ultra I've owned.

But you do see the Score on DXO ? $1300.00 device in 20th place ? Thats just crazy to me.

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stferrari
stferrari
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• 2w ago
↵TuGa121 said:

But you do see the Score on DXO ? $1300.00 device in 20th place ? Thats just crazy to me.

Yes I see but these are camera scores which means little to nothing to me. I do do even factor a phones camera into my buying decisions as I rarely ever take photos. The few i have taken look great to me.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 2w agoedited
↵stferrari said:

Yes I see but these are camera scores which means little to nothing to me. I do do even factor a phones camera into my buying decisions as I rarely ever take photos. The few i have taken look great to me.

As long as you are satisfied with the product, that is the most important factor. I would not be comfortable purchasing a device with mid-range camera and with a problematic CPU (as reported by users here) for $1300.00. I would prefer to pay the same amount for a device that offers significantly better performance and cameras.

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
Arena Master
• 2w ago
↵limporgyuk said:

So surely if they're going to use an in house processor that's equivalent to last gen, they'll drop the price yeah?? If I'm spending $1200+ on a phone, I want the latest and greatest. I'll just by a Vivo at half the price with a better performing Mediatek chip, better cameras, bigger battery, faster charging.... Look at the Antutu rankings, look at DXO Mark rankings. Samsung have no justification for charging such high prices.

Why do they need? When Applenused a 2 year old chip in the iPhone 15 base models did they drop the price? The iPhone Air has one less core activated, should they need wondrous the price? All these shutting greedy oems like Sony, Google, Apple, Samsung and other removed chargers, headphones and remive usable features and yet prices keep going up. Why aren't you calling them out too?


Here you go with with your hate of everything not chinese. Not gonna debate talking about a product that is banned from being sold in my country. You can debate that lame crap with someone else.

Oh and the Pixel is basically using a customized version of the Exynos. The hardware needs to be sufficient to run thr expect software. There is no law that says they all have to be leading in any benchmark.

If you're spending $1200+ for a pjone, then that shows me you 1stbdont know how to shop and second, well yoi dknt know how to shop. I've never paid over $1000 for any brand of phone that retails for such.

If you like some other brand of phone, just simply go buy whatever you like. But you constantly like all these other idiots always ride up like a bunch of purposely ignorant to facts trolls to Samsung.

If you think you can do a better job, please build us a phone and sell it. If it is worth it and available where I live and it does what I want I will buy it.

Now I will use your stupid logic against you. Samsung top teller phones have 200MP cameras. I seen the price of the Vivo X200 U. It costs the same as the S25U.

The side by side specs alone shows the S25U is a better phone and the Vivo Ultra just came out after the S25U. Yet it costs the same or more depending on where you buy it.

Next, I don't care about smartphone benchmarks. I never have i never will. It is pointless BS banter. The Exynos doesn't have to be as powerful as the SnapDragon. It needs to however be powerful enough to run the phone for everyday usage which it does and always has. Period. I dont care abouts DXOmark. The primary cameras on any recent flagship are more than powerful enough for me. I've seen side by side comparison of the camera of the x200 Pro and Uktra vs the S25U and they all have there weaknesses and yet the S25U consistently beats them both.

I don't care about a bigger battery. Sure I wouldn't mind having one, but until the US changes it laws, it isn't going to happen. 45W charging is more than fast enough for me. I only charge every other night and I don't need fast charging when I am sleep.

All of these oems sell phones at ripoff prices regardless of your so-called complaint only against one oem.

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
Arena Master
• 2w ago
↵chris_ccy07 said:

Charging Porsche level pricing with the power of a Camry. That's what Samsung is doing right now. Look at Exynos 2500 Vs 8 elite.

If the Exynos 2600 is more powerful than the 8 elite and is on par with 8 elite 2, I'm fine with it even when it is slightly inferior to 8 elite 2.


But if it turns out to be a Tensor G5 2.0 then it is NOT acceptable.

Latest Geekbench scores show the Exynost beat all recent chipsets, including Apple A19. This is fact.

You sound just like the fools who keep bringing up TouchWiz, issues with the Note 7 and so much more.

You get something you don't like stuck in your head, you don't know how to let it go even when facts show otherwise.

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
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• 2w agoedited
↵TuGa121 said:

Been saying this for years. DXO Mark rankings show you the real results for the cameras on the S series and they are garbage.

Actually I just went to DXOmark and looked at their scoring and where the S25U was ranked vs other brands including Apple and Chinese oems.

The score different are marginal at best.

The S25U got a total score of 151. Manynof the other phones were like 151-157with the one on top only being 175

What this actually means is the other devices only had some marginal differences and it is simply gonna come down to matter of taste and preference.

YT videos continue to show Samsung cameras are not garbage as you claimed and that the window of competition is really tight. None of them have an overall win.

Those videos mostly show that both Apple and Samsung cameras have been the most reliable and consistent in specific situations.

Samsung phones still produced the more sharper images, but of course are still saturated with more color which you can change. Apple still goes for more natural and dull, but you can still change that even after taking a photo, just like you can on Samsung.

Android phones, especially Samsjng phones still offers a better selection of manually setting the camera the way you prefer pics to be taken.

Videos taken with Samsung consistently have been more stable, but their are situations where others have done better.

No one zoom capabilities beat Samsung's 200MP sensor. None of them.

Your claim that Samsung cameras are just garbage shows your hate and level of education when you simply continue to post false information.

You dont own a.Samsung phones, have never bought one either. If you did, you wouldn't be trying so hard to lie about them all the time.

Huawei Pura 80 Ultra

175 V6

1

$1199

Jun 2025

Oppo Find X8 Ultra

$899

Apr 2025

169 V6

2.

Vivo X200 Ultra

$1100

3.

Apr 2025

167 V6

Google Pixel 10 Pro XL

$1299

Aug 2025

163 V6

Huawei Pura 70 Ultra

$1499

Apr 2024

163 V6

6.

7.

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

$1199

Sep 2024

161 V6

Google Pixel 9 Pro XL

$1099

Aug 2024

160 V6

$1499

159 V6

8,

Xiaomi 15 Ultra

Mar 2025

9.

Honor Magic6 Pro

$1299

Feb 2024

158

10.

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

$999

Sep 2024

157

Huawei Mate 60 Pro+

$1363

sep 2023

157

Oppo Find X8 Pro

Oppo Find X7 Ultra

$1199

Oct 2024

157

157

$1060

Mar 2024

14.

Huawei P60 Pro

$1058

Mar 2023

156

15.

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

$1199

Sep 2023

154

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

$999

Sep 2023

154

17.

Google Pixel 8 Pro

$999

Oct 2023

153

Oppo Find X6 Pro

$908

Mar 2023

153

19.

Honor Magic5 Pro

$1199

Feb 2023

152

20.

Samsung Galaxy $25 Ultra

$1299

Feb 2025

151

These are their ranks. Look itnup yourself. The score shows they are within a 5% margin of each other. 5% dude. You sound just like the Samsung hating shill we all see you to be. How do you like your words being shown to your face to be nothing buy garbage?!

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TuGa121
TuGa121
Arena Master
• 2w ago
↵AltronLivez51 said:

Actually I just went to DXOmark and looked at their scoring and where the S25U was ranked vs other brands including Apple and Chinese oems.

The score different are marginal at best.

The S25U got a total score of 151. Manynof the other phones were like 151-157with the one on top only being 175

What this actually means is the other devices only had some marginal differences and it is simply gonna come down to matter of taste and preference.

YT videos continue to show Samsung cameras are not garbage as you claimed and that the window of competition is really tight. None of them have an overall win.

Those videos mostly show that both Apple and Samsung cameras have been the most reliable and consistent in specific situations.

Samsung phones still produced the more sharper images, but of course are still saturated with more color which you can change. Apple still goes for more natural and dull, but you can still change that even after taking a photo, just like you can on Samsung.

Android phones, especially Samsjng phones still offers a better selection of manually setting the camera the way you prefer pics to be taken.

Videos taken with Samsung consistently have been more stable, but their are situations where others have done better.

No one zoom capabilities beat Samsung's 200MP sensor. None of them.

Your claim that Samsung cameras are just garbage shows your hate and level of education when you simply continue to post false information.

You dont own a.Samsung phones, have never bought one either. If you did, you wouldn't be trying so hard to lie about them all the time.

Huawei Pura 80 Ultra

175 V6

1

$1199

Jun 2025

Oppo Find X8 Ultra

$899

Apr 2025

169 V6

2.

Vivo X200 Ultra

$1100

3.

Apr 2025

167 V6

Google Pixel 10 Pro XL

$1299

Aug 2025

163 V6

Huawei Pura 70 Ultra

$1499

Apr 2024

163 V6

6.

7.

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

$1199

Sep 2024

161 V6

Google Pixel 9 Pro XL

$1099

Aug 2024

160 V6

$1499

159 V6

8,

Xiaomi 15 Ultra

Mar 2025

9.

Honor Magic6 Pro

$1299

Feb 2024

158

10.

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

$999

Sep 2024

157

Huawei Mate 60 Pro+

$1363

sep 2023

157

Oppo Find X8 Pro

Oppo Find X7 Ultra

$1199

Oct 2024

157

157

$1060

Mar 2024

14.

Huawei P60 Pro

$1058

Mar 2023

156

15.

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

$1199

Sep 2023

154

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

$999

Sep 2023

154

17.

Google Pixel 8 Pro

$999

Oct 2023

153

Oppo Find X6 Pro

$908

Mar 2023

153

19.

Honor Magic5 Pro

$1199

Feb 2023

152

20.

Samsung Galaxy $25 Ultra

$1299

Feb 2025

151

These are their ranks. Look itnup yourself. The score shows they are within a 5% margin of each other. 5% dude. You sound just like the Samsung hating shill we all see you to be. How do you like your words being shown to your face to be nothing buy garbage?!

https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/

Top of the list is Huawei Pura 80 Ultra 175. Just saying.
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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
Arena Master
• 2w ago
↵TuGa121 said:

https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/

Top of the list is Huawei Pura 80 Ultra 175. Just saying.

Are you blind or stupid. I already mention the top phone score.

As I stated, the majority of the devices were within 5% margin.

175 vs 151. So does that mean those other phones are trash or is it typical you just wanna trash Samsung?

You are just like any other hater, when facts are thrown in your face you can't talk.

Also, that Hwawei device, why do you care about it? Assuming you live in the US, you cant even buy it. Which means you would have to pay double to import it which would make it 4 times more expensive vs the S25U.

I know stupidity knows no bounds, but I think you found a way to exceed that.

I don't care about a product that I can't buy locally at a retail store. It would be no different than you trying to tell me how great a Lamborghini is over a Toyota, when you can't afford the more expensive option.

When all those overpriced Chinese toys are available in 200 markets including the one I live in, then we can talk. For you to even try to argue for a phone you can't even buy and is banned from sale in the US because it breaks several FCC specs requirements for phones sold in the US; shows just how much of a joke you are

I will never believe you ever own a Samsung, because after all; of they were garbage ad you saod; why would you keep buying them?

Here is an example. I think iPhone are garbage. I based that on the fact that I've own 4 different models. It is because I'm the last they were less capable vs what they cost. In recent years Apple jas stepped up and made the device a lot better, but I dont see any reason to change because the product I already buy does what I want the way I want and I see no need to switch for no valid reason.

I can choose to buy what I want vs buying something that continues to play catchup. The gap has been wide for nearly 2 decades. These Chinese oems are in the same boat. That Hwawei doesn't even run Android, it doesn't work on any US carrier but 2 and even then it would be using lower slower standards. There is more to a product vs the camera.

Are you gonna buy that device? Nope. Even if you didn't, how would you use it? Without Google Services it nothing more than a paper-weight.

See i am just showing you your purposeful ignorance and fan boy logic won't work with me. Unlike you, I was born at night, not last night.

Now here is will try to find some common ground. I recently too a trip to Hong Kong. I had a chance to spend some time with 3 phones from Hwawei. Those device was very nice, fast, took great pics and had a comparable price around $1000USD. Of the phone was available in the US i would buy it because it would be 100% compatible with US requirements.

But when it comes to making a choice with options available in the US, nothing sold in the US beats any Galaxy S branded device consistently in any metric. The few little one ups of Google or Apple make them a solid contender, not an overall replacement. The Pixel or iPhone is still a downgrade vs the Galaxy S.

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