HTC 10 Review

With the 10, HTC must prove to the world that its wares are worth the dough. And theirs have been a tough sale lately, largely because of objective shortcomings that the HTC 'style' of doing things—a style we've always been attracted to—wasn't able to cover for. So the 10 needs to be rock-solid both on the inside and outside, while also doing a splendid job getting us through a busy day of life acrobatics...
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2. SajidAnwar

Posts: 8; Member since: Apr 20, 2016

Me too going 4 htc

3. SajidAnwar

Posts: 8; Member since: Apr 20, 2016

Excellent effort in all deptt.

6. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

TOLD YA IT'S GONNA GET A 9!! Bravo HTC!!

7. VAEZTechnology

Posts: 12; Member since: Jan 28, 2016

Why 9? It's better than s7

17. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

@VAEZTechnology In what regard, might I ask? Don't get me wrong, I don't usually like Sammy's... But The Touchwiz Marshmallow is EXTREMELY OPTIMIZED that it run circles around Nexus 6P... Booting time is faster, app loading time is faster, gaming experience is slightly better and yet its dragging down a TON of bloat in the process... And I'm not even talking about The Exynos Version! Tells something, now doesn't it?

27. VAEZTechnology

Posts: 12; Member since: Jan 28, 2016

Yeah s7 is fast but 10 is fastest Android ui. Battery is better than s7 Audio output is better Design is awesome And faster Fingerprint scanner

153. ..Z..

Posts: 85; Member since: Apr 16, 2016

This should've got 9.3.

152. ..Z..

Posts: 85; Member since: Apr 16, 2016

Normally I don't agree to you're posts, but this unbiased one I do. +1.

33. NokiaFTW

Posts: 2072; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

It's not.

87. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

M7 was faster than S4. M8 was faster than S5 M9 was overall ( sometime a bit slower but mostly faster ) than S6. So yeah HTC 10 is faster they openly said it was smoother than any non nexus device. Is the S7 a nexus device? Poor lil greentroll.

100. tyrionTheWise unregistered

M7 was faster than S4(slightly). But S4(exynos) had a better GPU. M8 was faster than S5(by a lot) S6 was a lot faster than M9 (better NAND). M9 was slower than M8 overall. Not to mention it thermal throttled like crazy and slowed down to a crawl). S7 exynos is faster than HTC 10, which is faster than Snapdragon S7.

106. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

now u really hurt marorun`s feelings. you just brought up all that he is against: exynos,samsung and SD810 throttling..he`s gonna go berserk lol

117. Shocky unregistered

Now you're just making shit up. Exynos(S4) had a better GPU? NO IT DID NOT. That's hilarious.

119. tyrionTheWise unregistered

https://youtu.be/ZeRcKHF4bDc?t=506 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5im3WAZYc 4:24 in this one. That's why you never believe benchmarks. Adreno gpu always do better in benchmarks but fail miserably in real life due to poor fill rate.

125. Shocky unregistered

Snapdragon 600 is faster in 3DMark and GFXBench Random youtube links are not going to cut it, you're wrong.

129. tyrionTheWise unregistered

These are real life games from channels with over 100k subscribers Real life games > benchmarks. I rest my case here. You can go to xda and you'll find the same. I never trust gaming benchmarks since they don't emulate real life games and are compute heavy.

130. Shocky unregistered

So you think running random games and basing your experience on one or two that run better on one SoC is a good sample to come to a conclusion? Are you stupid? By the same logic the Galaxy S6 GPU is completely crap then because San Andreas runs like shit and produces artifacts. Nothing to do with the game, it's all because of the hardware, obviously.

133. tyrionTheWise unregistered

Running two real games is better than running two benchmarks. So my sample is better than yours. BTW even desktop gpu are tested using real games, not benchmarks. Regarding s6's GPU , it outperforms 810 by a significant margin in real games: https://www.gamebench.net/blog/iphone-6-vs-galaxy-s6-which-performs-best-gaming And this includes an Andrea's Here's why benchmarks are irrelevant:https://www.gamebench.net/blog/how-gamebench-provides-different-and-sometimes-opposite-view-traditional-mobile-benchmarks Here is real life performance of all 2015 GPU: https://www.gamebench.net/blog/lg-g4-gaming-performance-ranked-against-other-android-and-ios-smartphones Now do you understand hire useless gaming benchmarks are and how deviated rask life games can be? Don't reply before reading these links.

135. Shocky unregistered

You missed the point entirely as I knew you would, I know the GPU in the in the Galaxy S6 is more than capable but if I start judging performance on how some games play like they're doing in the links you posted then you can come to the wrong conclusions. You've wasted your time posting links again, the one with the Galaxy S4 only includes one version not both. Waste of timing posting them, why do you always try to BS yourself out of trouble with random links which prove nothing other than your lack of comprehension?

137. Shocky unregistered

I jump in again before you do, because you are predictable if nothing else. It's somewhat normal to see the creators of software try and discredit the competition or this case other testing methods, after all they want you to use their software. They control the selection of games and also settings used in these games. Also consider optimization, just because a game runs better on one SoC does not mean it's faster, it can and often does mean it's optimized for one and not the other, that can also mean they're rendering at different internal resolutions or reduced quality which oftern happens with older hardware like the Galaxy S4 in this case. I doubt very much that was an Apples to Apples test and if anything makes them look a little ignorant. The great thing about benchmarks is they're not optimized for any one set of hardware and that's the whole point, it's an Apples to Apples comparison, everything is the same.

229. GameBenchJake

Posts: 9; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

Hi Shocky, My name is Jake, and I'm one of the Heads of Gamebench. We work very closely with many app, game, and hardware partners to make sure that our software is reliable and provides factual, objective information. You're more than welcome to download a copy of our tools and try them for yourself. I'm more than happy to open up our methodology for you, and will state that we always do our best to perform true "Apples to Apples" comparisons. With regards to specific SoC comparisons, we're interested in showing the end-result real-world performance of devices on top games. In our eyes, it doesn't matter if one SoC is faster or better than another, if developers and OEMs don't work together to optimise for the faster one. The end user gets a specific level of performance based on that optimisation, and we differentiate ourselves from traditional benchmarks based on them being "Capability" tests, and us being a "Usability" test. You can email me at jake [at] gamebench [dot] net for more in depth information :) Cheers, J

174. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Still random YouTube link is more trustable that your benchmark scores.

176. Shocky unregistered

Clearly you didn't understand the above at all did you? I'll make this clear because maybe you're stupid like tyrion. Would you benchmark a game at the default settings on a PC game? between a high end graphics card and a mid ranged graphics card costing half the price? Of course you wouldn't. The reason is games detect the hardware used and auto adjust the quality to give users the best experience possible for their hardware, same game but different settings. The same thing happens with many Android games, if you think that method is better than GFXBench or 3DMark then you're a fool. You cannot compare hardware from different generations in this way unless you have full control over the resolution and graphics settings which we simply don't have in most Android games.

196. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

I think you should watch your words at first. Then benchmarks are easily cheatable. Who knows what Qualcomm did in order to promote their hardware with high numbers. The same goes to ARM and IMG. At last the GPU exists to push games. Even if Adreno 320 goes crazy in 3Dmark and lags behind PowerVR in games (looses by almost 2x sometimes) I wouldn't be more happy with it. And yeah, my method is MUCH better than yours because I see the REAL performance the device is capable of. And fools like you buy "powerful" devices by benchmark scores and then complain of the lags. Better graphics? Bad optimisation? Who cares - you can only reassure yourself that you have the "best" hardware but performing as a s**t for some reason instead of realizing that you made a bad choise.

200. Shocky unregistered

So lets get this straight, you think running a game on a new device with higher quality settings and higher resolution is really equal to the older device running the same game with reduced settings and resolution at around the same framerate. To put it another way that would be like saying a single GTX660 is equal to GTX980 SLI just because you can run games at minimum settings and match the framerate of the two GTX980 at max settings. I refuse to believe you're that stupid GFXBench and 3DMark offscreen tests are easily "cheatable"? other than overclocking or installing custom display drivers to reduce the rendering quality I don't see how it's easy. If the benchmarks are easily "cheatable" then they shouldn't be used, Antutu and Quadrant are great examples of bad benchmarks.

203. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Unless you have objective proof that PowerVR reduces graphics compared to Adreno your statement about GT980 vs GT660 is a complete nonsense. Give me at least screenshots if you really pretend to have a valid argument. Also I would be more happy with smooth gaming on GT660 than with jerky framerates but on the more powerful GT980. Off course you cannot say how can any vendor cheat at benches cause you do not know what the GPU does. Okay. 1) Reducing quality. 2) Making an arch optimized for compute/3D tests (okay, the test isn't the same type of load as a 3D game). 3) Pay a benchmark developer to optimize the test to a concrete arch. 4) Overclocking ISN'T used by mobile vendors for cheating. Still the only uncheatable and reliable 3D benchmark is playing games.

201. Shocky unregistered

Just realized your actually suggesting Qualcomm are optimizing for benchmarks now. Grasping at straws won't get you anywhere.

204. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

At least I'm not denying the facts.

126. killer7D

Posts: 551; Member since: Sep 18, 2014

Who told you this?

116. Shocky unregistered

S4>M7 - Higher clockspeeds S5>M8 - Higher clockspeeds S6>M9 - Better SoC, better NAND S7>10 - Based on Phonearena's results, HTC 10 will probably have slower NAND.

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