Apple iPhone 8 Plus vs Samsung Galaxy Note 8

Apple vs Samsung is the modern day smartphone rivalry, and their two latest devices - the iPhone 8 Plus and Note 8 - step up their performance and photo skills…
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70. jellmoo

Posts: 2588; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Because it's an opportunity to explain why you feel it's meaningless, and it addresses the twenty or so comments you know that are coming. When your results are different than what every other publication is touting the onus is on you to substantiate your claim.

85. LiveFaith

Posts: 474; Member since: Jul 04, 2015

Yes. Or go completely off the rails and say "Screen #1 is brighter than screen #2". But who would want that kind of crazy, when we need a scientific measurement to argue about? People are passionate about looking for new and creative ways to get offended these days.

49. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

You misunderstand our testing. We set displays at 200 nits for our BATTERY tests, not for our display tests.

40. rantao333

Posts: 346; Member since: May 21, 2013

how displaymate get 1200 nits was based on 1% full screen white with auto brightness on, or 560 nits with 100% full screen white with auto brightness on. this is a behaviour of OLED screen when u turn off the most of the pixel, u can boost small amount of pixel beyond their intended limit in a short time, basically u will never get 1200 nits in real life becoz u will never utilize only 1 % pixel of the screen with remaining 99% pixel turn off, it will also damage the OLED if u let it run in 1200nits for certain amount of time. this result only shown in DISPLAYmate , none of the other techsite got this result becoz they never measure the note 8 screen in 1% full screen white. i dont undersyand how all these bashing toward PA when most of u not really know what was happening.

48. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

Rantao did all the explaining for me, but I saw it too late. Thanks for being our reader and for understanding the way displays are tested! Cheers!

54. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 359; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

We do understand what you are trying to say. But Victor when you say "Maximum Brightness" can't you mention the highest it can get with Auto mode in sunlight or(if you cannot test brightness in direct sunlight) by flashing a powerful light on ambient sensor so that it goes all the way to its highest brightness even though you are using 100% white picture?. I bet that Note 8's "Maximum Brightness" should be around 800+nits in direct sunlight when using 100% whites. People like MKBHD, Verge etc are not idiots to just accept what Displaymate claims. Note 8 really gets crazy bright in direct sunlight which makes them to accept that claim to some extent(I know 1200+ at 100% whites is a joke) but for Ex: GSMARENA says Note 8 Max Auto brightness is 850nits and relative brightness is around 500nits which quite contradicts to your 518nits claim. Because my S8+ goes to crazy brightness in direct sunlight here at 104.0F in my place which is like amazing something my wife's iPhone 7(she loves iPhone) cannot match in direct sunlight. Either update the test or please add another column to your brightness table as "Maximum Brightness" & "Relative Brightness". Where as Relative Brightness should be around 518nits(Accepted) and Maximum Brightness should be around 800+nits which give Note 8 a clear win. In Direct sunlight, my S8+ is 50% brighter than my wife's iPhone 7's 600+nits and Note 8 here in question is even brighter than S8 duo. Please update it ASAP and among all the reviewers here in PhoneArena, you are the one who comes for a open discussion in comments section. Others simply write some BS & just don't even turn back. Good Day!

65. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

You are betting wrong. We do test 100% white in both manual and auto brightness, and the number you see here is the brightest of all the measurements.

71. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 359; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

If I accept your claim, then either my eyes(in fact eyes of millions out there) are not working fine & simply sees S8+ display more brighter than iPhone's or else S8+ & Note8 remains at 500+nits even in direct sunlight, & iPhone's brightness intentionally goes below 400nits when in contact with Sun & samsung display seems brighter in comparison? :-S Or else you are measuring it completely wrong bcoz may be you turn on Max Auto in your lab lighting which gives it 518nits. Try flashing a powerful light on Ambient sensor or test it again in direct sunlight(if you can), I bet results will be night & day. Please do retest bcoz there is no better display testing mechanism than Human eye when it comes to brightness. Bcoz nowhere in the world S8+ at 500+nits is 50% brighter than iPhone 7's 650+nits in direct Sunlight. Bcoz if thats true then I need a eye testing for sure :D :D

86. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

For the 100th time: we do test with a flashlight and both in auto and manual, but we test 100% white, which means a fully white picture. We have been testing this way for YEARS on all phones that we get. Can you guys in the comments PLEASE try to understand that testing 1% white picture and 100% white picture yields completely different results on an AMOLED screens and stop acting all sorts of offended over a number you don't even understand.

4. Tipus

Posts: 869; Member since: Sep 30, 2016

You forgot to mention iphone's new feature - ability to split :)))))

10. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

No , it's because bionic ship need a breath

30. IT-Engineer

Posts: 545; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

true, strangely phone arena never mentioned this issue happening to iphone 8 users while many others did!!! i wonder why!

41. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

8. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Imagine iPhone 8plus have a better score than Galaxy note 8 in PA test lol

19. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

The fruit logo alone makes up 3 extra points...

11. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Why iPhone 8 plus looks like an ugly unfinished Chinese Android one prototype ?

15. LebronJamesFanboy

Posts: 671; Member since: Mar 23, 2013

iPhone 8 Plus looks so bloated.

20. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

The Note 8 has a maximum brightness of 1200 nits, which is unparalleled by anything on the market. Combine this with infinite contrast and there's no point comparing LCD experience with AMOLED. IPhonearena refers to this as "the Note 8 is slightly brighter outdoors". The lies continues through every other section of the comparison, like the colour support cited as "the Note 8 can also show more colours", even though the Note 8 was the first phone ever to get HDR video support by streaming services. There's absolutely no credibility left in the gadget blogging community any more. I'm suspecting that most gadget bloggers are just promoting brands they're getting personal sponsor deals with.

50. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

Okay guys, let's stop repeating the bulls**t 1200 nits brightness. It's not the real number, at least it's no relevant (see my earlier comment here to understand why). The Note 8 is better legible than the iPhone outdoors, it's just that the numbers that you are using are completely false.

23. srgonu

Posts: 549; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

I request phoneArena to be neutral in their research. When every other tech site says note 8 has better battery endurance and more brightness compared to iPhone, you need to re-validate your testing methods. Your readers come here for news and genuine information to make decisions or to learn. People have been requesting you to stop being iPhoneArena and pointing out right source of information for you guys to improve. I personally lost interest in your review scale and measurements. Request you to be neutral as I know few users left your site already.

51. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

I am getting tired of writing the same thing over and over again. There is only ONE site that mentions the magical 1200 nit number and using that number as a reference is absurd because it measures the screen at 1% white and 99% black. The realistic brightness level is much, much lower.

60. srgonu

Posts: 549; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

Hi Victor, Appreciate you responding to comments. Ok, you may be right with respect to nit number. Let me clarify some of our frustration here. Most of the ratings here is biased. Let me explain you. You don't consider resolution of the iPhone as Con (compared to its price) and it becomes the Con for another android device. Never considered wireless charging as con for earlier iPhones and am sure it will be Con for all other devices going forward. Also, the way essential phone is validated is unreasonable. Its a first attempt by a new company and you didn't even wait for software update before concluding on your impressions. Look at the conclusion on low light performance comparison between iPhone 8 plus and Note 8. For naked eye, Note 8 does great job, but you guys conclude saying you prefer iPhone (but why, no one understands). There is a reason people call this site as iPhoneArena. Please don't try to enforce the device you like on to readers. Folks come here for a reason and we all respect neutral journalism.

27. 10aera

Posts: 42; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

What PhoneArena implies is that the Note has a new cooler design with a current borderless display standard, an outstanding display in resolution and curve, better water protection, software features miles ahead of iphones' and a camera wide better in details and colors. Games and apps are on par among both stores, batteries are similar between times of charging and discharging, and the iphone carries the same design language for 3 consecutive years. Nevertheless the iPhone 8 has a score of 9.2 and the note an 8.9...

32. dnomadic

Posts: 415; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

Good read and less biased than some previous comparisons. What I would like to see is the end of the Apple iMessage behaviors...the intentional mishandling of communications with Android devices is sickening and potentially should be a negative until addressed.... If a someone is in danger and they send a text from their default messaging app, it may not be delivered in a timely manner or may be jumbled (as was a message I received this morning).... This needs to be addressed. Apple wants to force people in to the iPhone by intentionally mishandling these messages...iMessage is their only distinguishing "feature".... Still like both phones....and think the review was overall fair save for the battery which does not jive with my experience or other documented accounts.... Good job Vic

52. Victor.H

Posts: 1062; Member since: May 27, 2011

Thanks! What is your experience with the battery?

55. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 359; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

Accept that, actually a well presented review except Max Auto should have been 800+ & Battery should have been better on Note 8(at least this all websites claim if not about display brightness Victor). Also Note 8's infinity display is a sheer treat to play games compared to iPhone 8 Plus which alone makes it a better Gaming device than iPhone. But seeing PhoneArena's history, this one is really well presented review overall. Goodone Vic :)

33. YeahYeah

Posts: 250; Member since: Mar 16, 2016

So in short note 8 is better but you gave it a rating of 8.9.. and iPhone 8 plus a rating of 9.2..

34. james.blunt.1973

Posts: 41; Member since: Dec 15, 2013

I hate black border around IPhone screen. just cheap Chinese phones has it.

36. path45th

Posts: 405; Member since: Sep 11, 2016

It's like comparing old technology (Note 8) with new and future one (iPhone). Design-wise both look like older Samsungs or iPhones. Not big surprises like iPhone X. What makes the iPhone better is the chip which is future proof and capable of running AR apps that are very likely to require lots of CPU / GPU power. The Note not only lacks AR technology but also its CPU has remained stagnant with just marginal improvements compared to older models. Even older iPhones manage to beat the Note and gaming is only good because of the screen not because of its performance that tents to drop frames. In two years time if not less the Note would feel like an old phone and since Samsung doesn't spend too much time to optimize their phones past the first year it will be a mess and a feeling like "I wasted my money". The iPhone has the chip to stay relevant for at least three years or even more and ready to embrace whatever new and innovative comes from the AR department. As for the S pen, this is a good feature but the App Store offers way better productivity apps. The Note clearly shows Samsung's lack of ideas. They use a massive screen but don't have a technology to replace Touch ID so they are forced to drop it somewhere at the back where it's difficult to reach.

42. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

Note 8 had old technology? The Note supports VR. VR and AR are very similar. AR simply allows for users to have some control over the environment. AR doesn't use any morenpower than VR. As far as benchmarks, no one has an idea how fastbthr chips are, because Android dowsnt have direct hardware access. App application requiestvare handled by the Virtual Machine. I wish g oogle would fix this and then you will see what chip is faster. They didn't have to drop touch I'd. That claim is bogus. Many OEMs were trying to have a newer FPS. They all failed. Samsung kept theirs though. So what it's on the back. Many phone did that years ago. There is only an issue from people like you. Namely, you dont use the phone on the daily. I have the Note 8 and the FPS location works and that is all that matter. I liked it in the home button. My device doesn't have one now. I liked that they kept it. Period.

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