Apple iPhone 7 Review

Is the iPhone 7 a real improvement over the 6s, or is Apple just fiddling around a bit, tweaking design here and there while swapping in a few new parts? Let's find out.
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41. thegeneral7010

Posts: 437; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

I believe that only processing performance of the phone is more than enough to give it that score.

52. ebilcake

Posts: 1230; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Multicore performance isn't much better then Exynos 8890. It's impressive but it doesn't really matter.

101. thegeneral7010

Posts: 437; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

It is better in geekbench 4

129. ebilcake

Posts: 1230; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

I never said it wasn't. A few hundred points isn't going to make any difference to the overall experience

158. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Rememeber this fact - Fanboys no matter how insignifcant a number is, as long as that number is higher for them vs you, they wont care about the actual facts. Benchmarks pushes a device to its hardware limits. This is something a typical users watching video, browsing the web and posting on Facebook, will never see performance-wise. On average if you only tested a phone on performance with phones doing the exact same tasks, no phone would be significantly faster than another. Example, no one opens 10 apps or more on a phone back to back to back to back within seconds of each other. NO ONE. Thus a test show sucking is not real world experience. No one is going to take a phone and constantly drop it to see how long it last before it breaks and stops working. No one is going to take a video a full resolutions and play it over and over again until the battery dies. Those are all unreal and should be taken with zero merit. But as long as the swing is in the direction of a fanboy, that is all that matters to them. The consider no variables like direct hardware access vs a VM, or how more or less RAM plays a roll, or how resolutions play a roll. They don't care..all they see is 3500 is bigger than 3000 and that is all that maters to them.

234. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

So a review on a car should be based on the number of HP its engine as? okay...

46. bucky

Posts: 3785; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Thx for the review guys. Well done.

51. ebilcake

Posts: 1230; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Score seems fair to me, not sure why people are moaning about it. It's not the best in every area but it doesn't need to be, it's about the package as a whole. Areas they could have marketed it down for display, no wireless charging, no fast charging, sd card support (android devices get marked down for it), audio quality, lack of audio jack and camera.

70. Acdc1a

Posts: 473; Member since: Jan 21, 2016

But the truth is it's simply not the best in MOST areas. There are many phones in the sub $400 range that blow iPhone out of the water...that is unless you're tied to iPhone. In that case, this is the best iPhone 7 that money can buy.

86. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Which phones might they be? And let me guess, your main criteria is screen resolution?...

102. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

As if screen resolution doesn't matter. Heck, why did Apple begin offering 5.5 inches and 1080p? Isn't 4 inches the "perfect size" and anything beyond 326ppi "useless"?

117. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

It's the usual Fandroid response to everything, of course the iPhone 5.5" screen is higher resolution to maintain PPI high enough not to see pixels at normal viewing distance. PPI being the point. The 4.7" screen doesn't NEED as high a resolution because it's SMALLER. Displaymate have rated the "low res" iPhone 7 as having one of the very best screens available on a phone: No-one I've ever heard with an iPhone has ever complained about the "low" resolution while Fandroids make out it's like watching Minecraft or something. In the same breath they'll say "of course the iPhone is faster, it's not Quad HD!", and rather than think "hmm, maybe Apple are doing it the right way? Maybe high enough resolution is enough as super high resolution seems to slow the phone down for no real benefit?" they'll try to spin super high resolution as a positive when in reality it's largely pointless. Oh yes VR, whatever... If you want VR get a dedicated device because it's crap on any phone. Like any spec war, for all the figures Android touts it rarely ever seems to beat the iPhone in any real, measurable way. When it does it's because fanboys quote specs and features from half a dozen devices, one on one the iPhone 7 is still up with the very best in most measurable ways. If you find the iPhone screen blocky then feel free to stick to other phones, it's free choice, but it's just one factor amongst many.

140. ebilcake

Posts: 1230; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Totally agree, nothing wrong the resolution used with the screen sizes. They have the performance so they could have gone higher, but would users be able to tell the difference? Probably not so they made the right choice.

170. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

What? There are 5"-5.5" phone with less than 1080p displays and you still can't see the pixels. HERE - many are listed here - It is amazing how you guy try to explain what Apple did, and be completely wrong. Again the willingness to defend Apple and give blanket BS reasons is all you who claim not to be fans ho are fans always do. You're so funny! How about this: Apple only used a 1080P display on the 5.5, because it would have been stupid to use anything less when the other model is basically HD, so full HD made more sense. At the time 1440p would have been expensive, reducing Apple's profit margins for something we don't actually need, but is nice to have. I think I had a far less fanboyish reason for Apple doing what they did, vs what you said. Other then in high end games, which really don't exist on mobile devices, 1080p has no advantage over 1440p. In most general apps, the UI will look the same other than 1440p would provide sharper images and sharper text. Even though we dont need 1440, Apple looks stupid without it because they are charging equal or more than a phone that does have it. Even though resolution does play a roll in many tasks, the iPhone is faster because it isnt QHD. Its faster because the OS is limited to what it allows, because it holds less apps in RAM, because it is absent of services and features that other phone must run to work. If i could shove the iPhone's firmware on an S, the S having better hardware, would be even faster than an iPhone. But if you shoved the Galaxy S firmware onto an iPhone, it would be much slower than the S.

173. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I don't think you can even comprehend anything lately, most of your posts are full of one-sided, selective rubbish that, if anyone had the free time necessary to dissect would be able to counter every point on. Your reply to my post seems to have missed the point entirely to what I said.

166. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The One Plus Three would be one I can think of. The Galaxy S5 would be too.

235. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Personaly my main citeria is : 1- no lag ( dont care about benchmark just thats its dont lag and my LG G5 fit thats ) 2- Great screen ( i dont care about color reproduction and all if i like what i see its all i want and iPhone 7 screen is very good too i saw it ) 3- features and ability to add lots of features ( android is more open than ios on thats end ) 4- stability meaning phone and app dont crash and update dont break my phone ( Motorola suceeded in this htc too my old lg g as well but its remain to be seen on lg g5. as of iPhone since ios 7 its a mess ) So yeah as someone else said.. i look at the full package not at the brand.

137. ebilcake

Posts: 1230; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

If reviews were solely based on rating the individual hardware aspects of devices Samsung would be the highest every year. That's not how reviews work, the experience, design (software and hardware), value to some extent and feel of the products also has to be considered. I can't think of any sub $400 phones that blow iPhone 7 out the water, I like my OnePlus 3 but I would be kidding myself if I thought the hardware was as good as an iPhone 7 Plus. They could have marked it down for various points but they never, so yes maybe a little biased but it's very subjective.

142. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Agreed, and I don't have an iPhone 7, I've tried my wife's out and it's very impressive, not a giant leap from the 6S but subtly improved in most ways.

175. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I agree. Yes it has to be hardware and software. But again, the list needs to be consistent of what is the least common denominator for the device being reviewed. I also gave hardware as an example, because this is where the device will have the least amount of changes. We've seen that over and over. Each new phone may have one of 2 actual pieces of hardware, while everything else is performance boosts, (i.e, more ram is a performance boost, not new hardware. adding a core to the CPU is a performance boost, not new hardware). Even in software, there are things that are consistent between them all. I'm not speaking of software features that are introduced to support hardware that doesn't exist in another device. When PA grades Apple, and the fans defend BS, and keep buying; Apple is never told they did anything wrong. The few people who do speak up, don't matter because like them; we likely aren't going to buy the phone, because we see each move as nothing but a money benefit to Apple. I personally miss using an iPhone. If Apple didn't constrain IOS so much, I would never have bought an Android. I'd be a complete iPhone-Fanatic and you couldn't tell me nothing. But that isn't how it is. When you are reviewing a device based on its own merit, the merit points need to consistent being able to grade another product with the same. PERIOD. If not being able to add more storage is a CON, then this should be a con on a device,e even if you could never add more storage. Because being able to add more storage is always a PRO because OEM's dont give enough. Being able to split the screen on a device large enough to make it a benefit, namely the iPhone Plus, then it is a con for not having it. The reason it doesn't have it, because Apple says; if you want this feature you need to spend $800 more on an iPad after you spent $800 on their phone. But I don't have to do this with the most popular Android OEM's Antenna bands are not standard. They are a design requirement for allowing signal to get in and out of a phone made of a denser material. Apple, HTC and others use the ugliest way by making these lines go all over the device in one way or another. This distracts from the design. Being able to hide them is a plus. But look at how Samsung did it. Not only is it very small, it blends well with any phone color and look 100% identical on each color or model. On the iPhone its hidden on the darker color, but brighter and more visible on the lighter color. That means overall its a poor design hidden or not vs Samsung where the bands look at the same no matter what color the device is. Meaning its a better overall design and if Apple is being graded for it, so should every other metal phone using a similar concept. I am not attacking Apple. I agree with PA the black looks great and that hiding the bands with the darker color is cool. But I am saying, they are still being bias and finding lame things to grade that are BS.

248. hydrogenet

Posts: 6; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

You know Techie, I agree with you. iPhone's aren't crappy phones - they're good. But when you compare those to the likes of Android and what they can do for the comparable PRICE, they don't seem to be that good. iOS is so restricted it can make me vomit. The best example would be is their crap software, iTunes. I can't even extract a PDF file to work PC (which is admin locked and can't install any soft). Do I have an alternative of extracting that file to PC? NO! Or the removal of the headphone jack would look like a removal of a fuel filler neck in a car, so you could only fill it in a specialised Apple Fuel station. For iSheeps - don't get me wrong. The new iPhone 7 is fast, but it's like having a Shelby GT500 without doors and the only way to get in to that car is through it's window hole. How convenient ! Phone is good, but it is nowhere near worth it's price, never has been, and never will. In 10 years of existence the whole layout of the iOS is still the SAME. Shame.... And this is what some iSheep call a progress. Oh, oh. It just works is the biggest BS I've heard from Apple. I can't even set my custom ringtone on this phone without doing 20 steps of cutting, changing format of the file and Syncing it.

132. frydaexiii

Posts: 1476; Member since: Dec 01, 2011

It's getting negative comments because iPA as usual, is reviewing the iP7 with tunnel vision. For Androids these days stuff like: . Fast charging . Wireless charging . SD card slot . Waterproofing . Minimum of 1080p screen are the minimum requirement and any missing will result in a "con" on the review. Yet, when it comes to the iPhone, it was not penalized for not having any of these (except waterproofing of cause). And worst of all, they actually pulling "pros" out of nowhere just to make it have more "pro" points. "Fantastic showcase for iOS 10's new features" Seriously? What is so special that it needs to be showcased on the iP7? New Emojis? "Lightning EarPods sound as good as ever" This should be a friggin "con". They removed the 3.5mm under the pretense that lightning connection and wireless is better, yet they sound the same? And thats a "Pro"? Give me a break. "Bright, bold, colorful display" If this were any other android phone it would have been a "Con" for not being the bare minimum of 1080p, but since it's an iPhone, it's now a "Pro"

176. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Exactly. That is what I basically said. Wireless charging is a standard and so is fast charging. But in fairness it is not an industry wide standard because only few OEM are using it. So it is a nice pro on the Samsung for example, but you shouldn't grade a Samsung a point for having it. Because everyone doesn't have it. Its just a nice bonus. But if you a re going to grade it as a pro, then you have to take off for an iPhone or any phone not having it, because they all can easily have it. Here I have a better way of saying it. No phone should be graded on anything that can be left up to subjection. It should be this is how it is made this and that is how it is, whether you like it or not. That si why I always use hardware as my argument. Hardware is made to be what it is, either you like it or not. Because there is little you can do the change it. If 4 cores isn't enough for you and you buy a phone with 4 cores, then if it performs sad to bad. You're stuck with it after 14 days. Either you get rid f when you can, or live with your bad buying decision. Software things are always subjective, because software allows for different OEMs to accomplish things that could be good or bad, but will be left up to the subjective thoughts of the users. Split-screen apps is a great concept, but if you have a tiny 4.7" display, its not as useful. But it is on a 5.5"+ device. But others may not find it useful on anything less than 7". So no matter how great the idea is, it is subjective to how good it actually is. That si why a review should have a consistent list of variables that are equal across the board, where room for bias is 100% eliminated and we are judging on pure merit and not some BS fantasy-land dream of a fanboy. This is my I like MKBHD. His reviews are just about what is there. And if he likes something that is subjective, he just says he likes it even if no one else will. Same for Floss on YouTube. This is why I laugh when people complain about the iPhone battery life being dismal. Its like well either buy the larger model, or a buy a phone with a bigger battery. If how you use your phone kills the battery in less time than you need it too, then that means the phone you have doesn't met your needs. But if you keep buying it and using it, then the OEM sees no reason to give a bigger battery. Because as soon as someone says something, then the fanboys come and say "well it last long enough for me". So what, we aren't talking about you fanboy. Because for a fanboy, everything is always perfect even when its not. If a hater fanboy turned on a Galaxy S7 and it hissed, they'd be knocking it to hell with cracks and blowing it up. But since its their phone then its the same excuse...well its only 5 out of millions...blah blah blah. BIAS!

63. Saadq23

Posts: 5; Member since: Feb 22, 2016

As someone who has been using an Android for over 6 years I do not disagree with this rating. The screen yes it is not up to standards but is just as good as the best screens on any Android. Speed and optimization is years ahead of any android phone out there. I keep seeing "how can this phone get a better review than the Note 7" It can because it is a better phone. Camera is on parts, Note does have a slight edge. Speakers better than the note, Performance 10 times better than the note. My Note 7 can't perform tasks half as fast as the iPhone 7 does. Yes I have both phones. All that said I am still a Android user and have no intention of switching but I see the value in giving credit where it is due.

82. Beastmode1

Posts: 85; Member since: Feb 08, 2016

Years ahead of any droid out there ? in speeds test the S7 edge is only slighty slower a couples of seconds at most and that is 7 months old meaning newer droids will be even closer to iphone 7 plus in some apps droids are actually faster ? so whats up with that ? care to explain

65. stevetherican

Posts: 40; Member since: Sep 10, 2015

Huge iphone fan but skipping the 7 & sticking with my 6s. The upgrades this year, especially for a non s model, pale in comparison to other numbered iphones. The scores way too high for such a disappointment

91. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

I've done the same, just traded the ageing 6 for an SE and I'm happy with it.

98. jonartpop

Posts: 199; Member since: Oct 25, 2012

I got iPhone 7 like 2 days ago. To me it's the best phone I have ever had. My Aunty got a new Galaxy S7 Edge about almost a week and to me iPhone 7 is much better than S7 Edge. S7 Edge is a great phone but I think iPhone 7 is just a little bit better.

221. Supersonic

Posts: 226; Member since: May 15, 2015

I am sure you have never seen or used S7 edge.

223. Carlitos

Posts: 669; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

Youve never used an S7 and your just saying that to try and justify your overpriced purchase. You are probably jealous she has a brighter, more accurate and pleasing screen. Longer battery life, can customize her phone to her liking, and . Instant camera launch with better optics etc. I could keep going, but i think the point is clear

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