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Apple iPhone 4S vs Motorola DROID BIONIC vs Samsung Galaxy S II T-Mobile

0. phoneArena posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:44

All launched relatively close to one another, the Motorola DROID BIONIC, Samsung Galaxy S II for T-Mobile, and Apple iPhone 4S are all vying for supremacy in being proclaimed as the best of the best. We’ve all waited long enough this year to finally see these quality smartphones, so which one will ultimately outgun the rest in finding itself home in your hands?...

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posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:49 4

1. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)

my fav is the 4s but i also like the bionic as well.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:53 18

2. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

Bionic is future proof? Its successor is coming out in a few days lol get that instead.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 10:53 2

10. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

It is getting ICS, it is a great, quick device, wonderful reception and great LTE response... Maybe the RAZR will be slightly better with it's screen and really, really great materials that make up it's body. But the Bionic is a great device and will be a great buy even after the RAZR comes out.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 11:00 6

11. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

I am willing to bet the RAZR will get ICS first. And besides this article is basically suggesting which phone of the three you should get. When in reality you should wait a few days for the RAZR.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 11:22

14. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

out of the three the Bionic is the clear winner. the Bionic is going to be $50 cheaper than the Razr and to some people that matters. it's not to me because the 2 year contract is a bigger deal than the money by a long shot and i'd want more bang for my buck.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 13:33 4

53. bigdawg23 (Posts: 462; Member since: 25 May 2011)

Bionic is not a clear winner. I have owned the iPhone 4, Atrix (Very close to the Bionic) and now SGS 2 on AT&T. SGS 2 is the best phone I have owned. The camera is better IMO.

After 6 Months with an iPhone 4, that screen is just too small. Yes the SGS 2 lacks resolution but as they reviewer said the screen covers some of that up.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 13:42 1

54. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

xD the Atrix is no where NEAR as nice as the Bionic is. just walk into a Verizon and use one and you'll know what i mean. Motorola never has any stand out cameras.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 14:54 11

63. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

sorry, but id like to see how they came up with the bionic as the winner again..

screen beauty- sgs2
screen size -sgs2
camera - 4s/sgs2
video - 4s/sgs2
internet speed bionic
apps - tie
stronger hardware - sgs2/4s

order of best to worst with updates apple, samsung, motorola

How exactly did the bionic win again? how is it the most futureproof? Its the most likely to be left in upgrade nirvana of the 3 by Moto's track record... that graph that PA posted today proves that without a doubt.

I was totally digging the comparisons right up until they announced "the winner"....

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 14:55 3

64. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

and lets not forget that VZW is notorious for EoL phones rather quickly so they dont have to support them.

They are the ONLY carrier to have EoL their SGS1 variant, as well as dozens of androids that have been EoL within about 6 months of launch.. cough cough eris and devour.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 15:21 3

70. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

xD are you kidding me remixfa?

it clearly wins over T-Mobile's Galaxy S II which is an exception because Samsung tried to balance data speeds and processing power which is what Motorola did with better technology. again the displays have trade-offs. i personally like SA+ better but the Bionic is still qHD where the Galaxy S II is not. Camera i give to the Galaxy S II. i never much liked Motorola's cameras but they get the job done well enough. the Bionic is still a major player in this game although overshadowed by the Razr. it is by all means future proof. the Razr didn't become future proof because of a few extra MHz, a thinner body and more vibrant colors on the screen. T-Mobile refreshed their Galaxy S Model remember that? Verizon's refresh was in the form of the Charge. Galaxy S 4G = Droid Charge. EoL? who cares about that? i see EoL as a good thing as i might do a warranty replacement and get something better like i did with the Devour. i got a Droid 2 for it. now succeeding devices rapidly is something T-Mobile is no stranger to. the most recent example being the Amaze 4G over the Sensation 4G.

remember too Motorola also makes better PHONES. they have the best sound quality and the most reliable radios in the buis. that's part of the reason why i like them so much.

also the real order of best in updating is Apple, Motorola then Samsung. Motorola launched the first phone other than the Nexus with Froyo and had some of the first devices updated to Froyo and the Droid X was the first phone updated to Gingerbread after the Nexuses. not to mention the Nexus like updates of the XOOM.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 15:16 2

100. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the bionic only have 512mb of ram to the SGS2's 1 gig?

The OMAP chip in the bionic is superior to the 1.5ghz snapdragon in the hercules but its hampered by the bandwidth caps of the lower ram.

Ive put QHD against SA+ and SA+ wins. 95% of the customers that do the same think the same. Higher resolution is trumped by screen clarity and color saturation. The first thing everyone notices about the SGS2 is its screen and how pretty it is. You dont get that reaction to QHD, superior resolution or not.

I didnt say it WASNT future proof, its just less likely to get supported over the long haul. Motorola is notorious about updates. Samsung is only marginally better so its piss in one hand and crap in the other.. take your pick.

IF its EoL AND they no longer have them in stock (one doesn't automatically mean the other), then yea, you get that free upgrade.
the only thing EoL definitely means is that its NEVER going to get another update from that moment on, so EoL means a lot to people that bought the device and hope to to continue getting updates.

The sensation isnt being EoL any time soon as its still a top seller. Having a nicer version of the phone is cool but there is a $130 difference between the 2 sets. For many people there isnt enough difference to justify the cost.. especially when the SGS2 is cheaper than the amaze and better at the same time. I think ive sold 1 amaze so far. SGS2s and sensations fly off the shelf.

Samsung uses the highest quality sound codecs, hardware, and speakers available. I'll put my SGS1 up against anything... and i bet I win. :)

i went by over all track record, which moto has EoL more devices and left more devices in update limbo than samsung. Outside of the "DROID" phones, moto is notoriously horrible at updates. Even that little graphic that PA posted showed that.

"better" is subjective. I'll take sammy's light weight and super tight n durable builds over anything else in the market right now. The Razr has an interesting build but we will have to wait to see if it translates to durability.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 16:40

106. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

the Droid Bionic has 1GB of Dual-Channel LPDDR2 RAM which actually makes it better than the Galaxy S II in that department.

i'd choose SA+ myself. SAA would be ideal but you don't lose with qHD either. i like not having jumbo sized icons and seeing text further away more easily although a little jagged because of the pentile. (i've tested this with the Droid Bionic and the Droid Charge many times)

you asked how.

that's not true. phones like the Nexus One, the Motorola Cliq, the Droid Eris, the Droid Incredible and the LG Ally got updates after they were EoL.

yeah, i'd get the Sensation myself but point is it was replaced as a top tier device. for $250 you can get a Droid Bionic now. if you want our Amaze 4G: the Droid Razr you'll have to pay $50 more for it.

i don't know about sound codecs and speakers so i'll take your word for it because i don't care. xD now if you mean hardware as far as processors and displays then i agree with you but if you're talking about the casing you know how me and plenty of other people feel about that.

no, they're not.
if you mean overall as in all activated handsets HTC beats everyone by having the most updated handsets by a large margin but Motorola comes second there and Motorola is the quickest to update handsets. look it up. that was since May and since then i hear about more Motorolas being updated than anything else especially the XOOM with it's Nexus-like updates.

by better phone i meant in it's functionality and reliability as a phone you know like ring ring phone call functionality. best sound quality, most reliable radios. Phone Arena covers these in the comparisons and reviews and gives props accordingly.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 18:04

108. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

none of those phones got an update after an official EoL. I owned a cliq at one time.. lol
They gave the click the 2.1 update and then EoL'ed it like a month later.

EoL means its not getting any further support from carrier or manufacturer. Very very few instances where a device was supported after an official EoL. If Samsung can actually stick to their promise of seeing the SGS1 get ICS we will see an instance of it since VZW has already EoL the fascinate/sgs1... but something tells me it wont be updated.

The Xoom was a stock device and a VZW premier device... Anything outside of DROID gets sidelined. If you own a DROID then your fine, if you own a moto anything else than your lucky to get whatever you get. Even other motos on VZW havent faired well if they werent called DROIDS.

Outside of VZW, moto just drops the ball completely.

And as a side point, the pentile QHD screen looks way worse than the non pentile SA+ screen on the SGS2. Lower resolution, much higher pixel density.

Besides, id rather have the big icons and such.. lol, i dont like holding my phone close to me to have to read it. :) Thats all preference though.

HTC, though they have the best update reputation has left quite a few phones in the dust themselves. Honestly, all manufacturers outside of nexus devices have a crap ass record. Like i said.. poop in one hand and piss in the other. Its just "who is worse than who", but no one is good.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 18:36

111. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

okay, my memory is a little foggy on most of those but i KNOW the Incredible was supported because it's just recently gotten Gingerbread and it's sooo EoL you can also add in the original Droid 2 as well it's EoL and it got Gingerbread last month.

it took the G2 and the G2x forever to get Gingerbread and they're stock. ;)

there hasn't been many high-end devices by Motorola aside from Droids. there's the Atrix and the Photon now and so far the Atrix has been treated just fine and the Photon hasn't really needed anything yet. o:

well guess what? the Bionic is on Verizon so what's your argument here? xD another thing is Verizon is pretty good with their end of the updating process too so that's another factor.

yeah, i'm not arguing with you about the displays. i know SA+ is better but qHD is really fine. even Phone Arena gives it props. there's still more pixels so not everything has to be jumbo sized and i do like that part about it.

yeah, HTC isn't really the first to mind when it comes to updates with me either but facts are facts. that's true but i do want my ICS like ASAP bro.

posted on 02 Nov 2011, 04:23

127. Mr.Mr.Upgrade (Posts: 474; Member since: 30 Aug 2011)

remixfa get off the phone site, you don't know what you talking bout, put it to you this way Verizon has the best service, if the phones are not on Verizon, they suck like you do

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 22:28

84. Immolate (Posts: 310; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)

Hmmm... remind me again how sgs2's screen size of 4.3" wins over Bionic's screen size of 4.3"? Seems kind of... counterintuitive.

Don't get me wrong. I have a Bionic and I think that other than being Samsung cheap, the SGS2 is a great piece of hardware, probably the overall phone of 2011, but it has one fatal flaw. It isn't available on Verizon, and this phone being a phone, the network matters... a lot.

So give me an SGS2 with a big screen and a Motorola style chassis and build quality (light phones feel cheap) on Verizon and I'd snap it up.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 22:34 1

86. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

since the phone being on Verizon is a factor to you i'll assume you're American and i'll have to correct you. there's two variants of the Galaxy S II here that have a 4.65" display. the T-Mobile version is one of them.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 15:04

99. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

immolate, the SGS2-tmoble edition has a 4.52 inch screen.. and super amoled + is way prettier to look at than QHD LCD.

we are gonna have to disagree.. i prefer light weight phones. after using only heavy phones that bounce around your pocket, using a light weight phone is awesome.

posted on 02 Nov 2011, 10:47

129. remyrz (Posts: 205; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)

so you´re only talking for the USA right? cauze i dont live there so i dont give a f.. about verizon or not.. for me.. and the description above.. sgsii wins

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 13:27 1

114. Smart (Posts: 76; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)

Exactly......All the way till the end bionic was the lagging kid and voila at the end bionic springs a major surprise....it comes out of the box adorning the "winner" tag....
While bionic may be a great phone but compared to sgs2 or even 4s it cannot be the ultimate winner...
Someone not reading the conclusion by John will also feel our way....

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 13:51

117. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

the T-Mobile Galaxy S II and the iPhone 4S do have some things that are indeed better than the Bionic but you guys are only looking at how many little things the other phones do better than the Droid Bionic but your priorities should start with power, speed and overall usability which the Bionic surely excels in here. when has Phone Arena ever been more biased towards a Droid than they are towards a Galaxy or an iPhone? i'm sure this was a difficult but well deliberated decision. it's the one i would've made in the unbiased opinion you know i'm capable of making.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 18:36 2

79. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

Here's the thing, the RAZR is coming out in a few days. It has a much better display in the fact that it uses the SUPER AMOLED qhd display. It is pentile but it is a much better, way less pixelated display.

I took the Droid 3 and the Samsung Strato side by side and the Strato had a much better display thanks to the super amoled. Motorola was very smart to make the choice to go with Super Amoled vs LCD. You will be able to fully enjoy the qHD display with the gorgeous super amoled colors.

Plus the RAZR will have better battery life, a faster processor, and a much thinner and sturdy design.

I would gladly pay 50 dollars more for the RAZR. Don't get me wrong, both devices are good but the RAZR is obviously the better choice.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 19:39

80. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

dude...i don't think you know. i'm Thump3r. :P
yeah, i know the Razr is a lot better than the Bionic. i'm just talking about this comparison. xD

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 15:39 1

73. douglasman100 (Posts: 24; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)

i dont know about that i just got gb on my droid 2 global....i know motorola fails. but im getting the galaxy nexus =)

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 15:50

76. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

you came after like all of the other models. xD

posted on 30 Oct 2011, 16:07

119. JeebJeeb (Posts: 3; Member since: 30 Oct 2011)

Are you stupid? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about you troll.

posted on 31 Oct 2011, 07:01

120. hardik (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)

which phone i should by iphone 4s or xperia arc s?

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 10:04 6

5. AKm007 (Posts: 108; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)

Seriously? You called the Bionic the most future-proof when its successor has already been announced. And saying it is the epitome of cutting edge smartphones is absolute crock. all it has is 4G. And why aren't you using the AT&T or verizon version of the SGS2? Scared it will outclass the others. Also, the iphone's 64GB can't be considered a one-up when there are 64GB micro-sd card and with the SGS2's 16 GB gives it more than the iphone. This is a scumbag review!

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 10:27 1

7. Phullofphil (Posts: 805; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)

64gig micro as cabutrd? Maybe there tons of money and i dont believe any phone supports that size of micro card.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 11:15 1

13. ckdb4 (Posts: 2; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)

WOW, what about the att version of the SGSII is so much better? And I believe when he states that its future proof hes refering to the fact that It has LTE dual core and is ICS upgradable. LTE would be the key because it is the future of wireless tech.

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