Weaker than expected iPhone XR demand causes revenue decline for key Apple supplier

In case it wasn't already abundantly clear, Apple's iPhone XR is not selling quite as well as parts suppliers and industry analysts had initially anticipated.
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89 Comments

1. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

"Right now, “industry estimates” circle 30-35 million iPhone XR unit shipments for this year’s entire final quarter" Some flagships don't sell these numbers in their lifetime.

2. dubaiboy78

Posts: 442; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Haha nice analysis made by an isheep

3. sissy246

Posts: 7060; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Yeah, lol He just can't admit that apple is not doing as good AS EXPECTED

31. lyndon420

Posts: 6710; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

If apple made their accessories work with other phones it would probably help their bottom line and create new customers.

4. midan

Posts: 2672; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

Some? You mean none except iPhone.

59. Marcwand3l

Posts: 426; Member since: May 08, 2017

Galaxy flagship phones generally sell more than 30-35 million during their life time. Also those numbers are for shipped units not sold units. But ultimately this is good thing(for consumers), is unit stocks remain fairly big retailers will be forced to apply discounts to move them.

5. Kuroki

Posts: 183; Member since: Nov 24, 2013

Shipped units is not equal to units sold, fyi.

18. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

Ah so you wanna say Samsung shipped 10 million S9 but didn't sell that many. WOW!!!

6. Donone41

Posts: 246; Member since: Dec 17, 2014

Spin it, twirl it, dammit mix it up, but the truth of the matter is apple is fuc**d this year with these overpriced crap.

10. htcisthebest

Posts: 435; Member since: Nov 15, 2011

Your profile picture is disgusting, dude!

19. NateDiaz

Posts: 1084; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

I guess you didn't check your username before making this comment.

24. ZerosAndOnes

Posts: 84; Member since: Oct 12, 2018

A decline is a decline. No matter how much you sell. You can sugarcoat it as much as you like but iPhone XR is the first brand new iPhone that has crashed all its projections into negatives.

52. wickedwilly

Posts: 663; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I think the iPhone C was much the same!

54. wickedwilly

Posts: 663; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I think the iPhone C was much the same!

27. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Let's wait and see how well Apple has done in terms of iPhone sales in this quarter without getting ahead of actual facts......k I'm pretty certain that iPhone XR will be sold at least 30 million units in this quarter alone. Add that to the iPhone XS/XS Max numbers and yes it'll be another record breaking holiday quarter for Apple just like that......ha ha haaaaa

35. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Except Apple has come out and said they will no longer be releasing sales numbers.

39. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

He's an iTroll who's in iDenial so he has to iAct like he didn't know about it. But please be gentle, his iPain is for real LMAOOOOO

48. darkkjedii

Posts: 30955; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

They no longer announce them, or did you not get the memo? Ha ha haaaa

53. wickedwilly

Posts: 663; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

However, we will never know for sure now Apple is hiding its sales numbers.

60. Marcwand3l

Posts: 426; Member since: May 08, 2017

According to apple's guidance they will sell less units this quarter in comparison to how many units they sold in the same quarter last year. This is one of the reasons they decide to stop reporting the total number of units sold, to mask the obvious decline and hide behind their price increases.

7. gamehead unregistered

People waking up?

25. sissy246

Posts: 7060; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

That is just it, people are waking up and not paying Apple or Samsung's prices. That is why Huawei is coming on strong.

70. joevsyou

Posts: 1091; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

my manager refuses to switch from iphone, During black friday he bougt the last years X over these other models. he told me they all over priced including the XR garbage. I try to get him switch over but he always say he's locked in the ecosystem. On top of that our job uses a app that is only on android so he carries this bulky tablet around that runs much slower.

8. Poptart2828

Posts: 356; Member since: Jan 23, 2018

Smartphone Tech is advancing at a faster pace than Apple can keep up. Their phones have played it safe for years now and the people are speaking with their wallets. The phones are well built but lack many of the features Android offers. They are behind in the camera department to many Android phones and battery life is dreadful compared to Android phones. Charging times are the worst in the business unless you fork out another 70 bucks.

13. Leo_MC

Posts: 7149; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Are you talking about the (i)Phone (XR) that has one of the best video cams (and one of the best overall cam), a 8-10h of screen time battery/day (the second best battery for this year’s batch of phones - the ones that matter - 3rd, if we consider the Note with a lower resolution setting) and 1h30 charging time with an iPad charger (which is 25€)?

50. wickedwilly

Posts: 663; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Do you really believe the XR has the second or third best battery life? We all know PA battery life test is unreliable and out of sync with all other tests. It also only tests a tiny number of smartphones. Look at a full list of phones tested like GSMArena and the best iPhone is the 6s Plus which is around 115th place. The XR is way down after that. That is when new, we all know with built in obsolescence that is seriously reduced over time. I do agree the video on the XR is very good. This year's iPhones have caught up with the Galaxy flagships now stereo recording has been added. The point is you need to go out and buy a charger and a lead which is something all other OEM's provide in the box for phones costing less, much less in many cases.

55. Leo_MC

Posts: 7149; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

That dude has no idea what he’s talking about. iPhone lacks no features (that are important to the user), have some of the best cameras, some of the best batteries of THIS YEAR’S batch of phones (I found pa battery test to be very accurate actually, better than ga - according to that site, my iPhone 7 should have had 9-10h of sot, which is way off), best support (with iOS 12 iPhone 5s works like no other 5yo phone, there are tests performed on other apple devices and they have found no such thing as the “planned obsolescence” that you talk of). Yes, I have to buy a charger - and that is not cool - but that doesn’t mean I don’t have the feature - it’s just like the wireless charger on the Note: the feature is there, you just have to get the accessory.

62. wickedwilly

Posts: 663; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

PA’s battery tests have never been accurate in relation to the general experience. GSMarena tests many more phones and its results are far more in line with what most people get. I personally have not tested this years iPhones, yet, but have compared iphones to the the Galaxy equivalents from the 6 to X and iPhones are only good in standby and easy use. Start to push an iPhone and battery life will crumble. Apple gives a false impression by inaccurate battery calculation at the begining of use, around 100 to 80%, which fools a lot of lite users. Apple admitted to planned obsolesence, too small batteries and over powered chip, that has to throttle down under heavy use. It was either massive battery life drain or pathetic performance. If by best support you mean frequent updates you are correct, but deluding yourself if you think that is 100% a good thing. It has led to buggy updates, bricking, breaking fearures or slowing down. It does not even bring functioality to iPhones first, they are usually 2 to 5 years behind. You do not have the charger unless you buy it and a lead. For many people that is 60 to 80 US. Samsung often bundles in a wireless charger I got a top of the line fast wireless charger and 100US case by Tumi with my S9 plus. Far, Far better value for a superior phone overall.

64. Leo_MC

Posts: 7149; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You show the same lack of knowledge of Apple products and services that plagues the Android biased members of this site. You will never - ever ever ever ever eeeeeeeeever - get more than 5h out of iPhone 5s and more than 8h with 7; S9 will never - ever ever ever.... ever - outlast XR. I have pushed the XR and I couldn’t make it die before 7h (I could have used max brightness in order to make it waste more battery, but my eyes would have hurt). Apple admitted that, when the battery was overused, it throttled the device for usage time (the problem was that it didn’t said that changing the battery makes the phone just as good as before); that’s no obsolescence. Updates are always good (if you don’t believe me, ask any important Android oem - google, Samsung, Nokia, Huawei, Xiaomi all update their phones at least once a month). If Samsung is better for you, go get Samsung devices and stop bothering me on Apple articles.

67. wickedwilly

Posts: 663; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I have as much knowledge of Apple products as you so that is a non-starter. Your never - ever ever ever ever eeeeeeeeever and I couldn’t make it die before 7h, statements are sooooooooooo wrong. Just go look at the phone test in the link below. Barely over 5 hours for the XR, last in the test, 1 hour 46 mins less than the 4th placed phone and over two hours shorter than the Note 9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkiniAkBOyU "Updates are always good", well not if they slow, brick or disable features on you phone or bring more bugs than features!

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