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iPhones score highest touch responsiveness, more than twice as responsive as Android and Windows Phone devices

0. phoneArena posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:00

Have you ever thought just how responsive to touch your device really is? This is after all a key factor in determining how fast it feels, and now researchers from Agawi came up with a benchmark test that measures response times down to the millisecond…

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posted on 01 Oct 2013, 15:23

102. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

You really don't know Sniggly like I know Sniggly.

That guy (along with some other people) was so anti- Apple that it wasn't funny. I joined phonearena.com SOLELY because of the FACTUAL errors Sniggly et al was making at the time. The guy had no clue about business, operations, marketing, etc. at an "executive level." Didn't understand basic Econ 101 regarding marginal cost, cost structure, etc. To be fair, just about every android-lover, Apple hater didn't understand either. I remember when Moto released the Xoom, and I stated it was DOA (and I was correct) and Sniggly forced me to work backwards from BOM to consumer MSRP and I nailed the (then unannounced) MSRP within $20 usually what I knew about supply-chain, distribution costs, mark-up's, etc.

Back then, Sniggly was upset how Apple was hurting him (financially). You read these endless rants by Sniggly how Apple was the new evil empire. You read all these sad sob stories how Apple single him out (the truth was Apple didn't know and didn't care about him).

Sniggly reformed a bit and has toned down spreading factually incorrect information on Apple. Some of us have long memories. Part of my longevity on PA was that I was good at discrediting the Apple-haters that were clearly making stuff up as in lynching Apple or going on a witch-hunt. Some of the stuff these people made up was just ridiculous.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 17:40

109. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

You joined Phonearena just to argue with me? I'm honestly flattered.

I was a lot more rabid, I'll agree. I've since calmed down about ripping on Apple. I'm happy that you recognize that fact.

And yeah, I guess the Xoom was DOA. Kinda sucks, because it was a good first gen tablet.

You're a smart guy, Ardent. Biased as all hell (the mere fact that you defend Mxy, who often throws out falsehoods and outdated info like they're relevant fact, speaks volumes) but I respect your knowledge base.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 23:21

119. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

Sniggly, you always had this reading comprehension problem. I wrote Sniggly et al. I know what I wrote.

Second, you like to give people crap for no reason. For example, I stated Huawei and ZTE would be formidable android OEM and you were like laughing because the only the Huawei or ZTE handsets you had dealt with were simply p.o.s -- you wouldn't look into the future and see how these companies would change.

The point about Mxy -- the guy is harmless. The problem is his comments are so vague, you can't debate it. I'll give an example of vagueness: Honda promises to save you gas with its new cars. Car owners sue because these cars didn't offer the EPA mpgs and they had relied on Honda's claim to make purchase. The judge threw out the claim because Honda's claim was vague -- yes their cars saved the driver gas, but it NEVER SPECIFICALLY stated how much gas it would save.

In contrast, when Apple-bashers stated the iPhone copied LG Prada, that IS NOT a vague comment, and thus I can challenge it (however, saying Apple copied would be a vague comment). The Apple-bashers made specific claims that I could fact-check. That is the difference, and thus have nothing to do with bias.

Lesson of the day "et al" is Latin for "and others", it is short form of et alia. You were one of more vocal Apple haters, but there were others.

Btw, I am loving my iPhone 5S.

posted on 02 Oct 2013, 03:42

122. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

And Ardent, you've always taken everything way too seriously. I caught the actual meaning of what you said, but deliberately pretended like I was stroking my own ego with the fact that you named me specifically.

As for Huawei and ZTE, they still put out crappy handsets, and those handsets are still all that we really see here in the US. i'm sure that, since they're government backed OEMs in China, they're big over there. However, they have yet to make too much of a dent in the global market. Granted, in five more years they could be as dominant as Samsung. However, it hasn't happened yet, and unless they suddenly increase their quality across the board, I really don't want it to happen.

As far as Mxy goes, yeah, ultimately he's harmless. The community at large realizes how retarded his statements get. However, your analogy about Honda doesn't hold up, because Mxy does make multiple refutable statements. He specifically references lack of update support on Motorola phones, despite the fact that save for one set of devices, Motorola's been fairly consistent and relatively speedy with updates. He kept insisting that the Moto X was like the Bionic, when the two situations (a often leaked but never officially announced device-until a month before its release- versus a phone that was officially announced and slated for a release that was subsequently delayed) are almost completely different. I'm just scratching the surface of the bull he's fed the community for one and a half years.

So yes, your defense of Mxy shows bias, or at least shows that you didn't fact check your position on him enough. I mean, hell, the dude knows what he's doing. He'll make a trollbait statement, I'll respond by curbstomping him with the boots of truth, and then in his (idiotic) response he'll say "Hook, line and sinker," implying that his entire intent was to raise hell with his BS.

Lastly, I don't know exactly why you left off with "I am loving my iPhone 5s," but okay. I'm loving my Droid Mini. Congratulations on your purchase. I guess in a year (when I'm able to get a new device on my employee plan) we'll compare notes on our experience.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:06 1

52. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Hey, I'm offended that you left my name out. :(

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:07 2

54. darkkjedii (Posts: 24974; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

You're a techie, not an apple hating fanboy Smurf. That's why I left your name out bro +1

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:13

56. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

I'm thinking about getting my mother a iPhone 5 on T-Mo. I like iOS 7 to the point where I want to use it, if it was on a larger screen that is.

+1 right back!

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:36

70. darkkjedii (Posts: 24974; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Give it a try Smurf, if nothing else keep android as your daily driver, iOS as your backup.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:35 6

69. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)

As someone that supported Apple for 10 years, I won't commit to putting Apple down for certain quality apsects. I will, however, express my opinion that the business model is horrid. For a company that only holds 17% world marketshare and still be one of the richest companies in the world next to oil companies, means the company has found a way to spend as little as possible and charge far more than their competition.

I had enough of being told what I can or can't have. Or what I need or don't need on products I spent good money on. Frankly, I find this article another way to keep Apple in our face. I own an Android with Jellybean and I find that the response is immediate. I can get from point A to point B just as effectively and enjoy my device as it tailored to my personality and tastes. I just don't experience these detrimental issues with Android as the tabloids like to promote for Apple's favor. This whole "Apple does this better" stuff is getting annoying. I can name things Apple does better but can also name a hell of a lot of things Android does better. But, the most important bottom line for me as well as others that have switched to Android, is the fact that we have more control in what we do or need from our devices. I don't care how good the product may look or feel. It's useless if the company won't allow us to move about on our own merits, needs or wants.

This is why our generation spoke with our dollars in moving over to Windows PCs. Our money, our choice. The world spoke that Microsoft deserved to control 90% of the marketshare then just as Android deserves to control 80% today because they allow the consumer more control rather than the company controlling the consumer.

John B.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:39 1

72. darkkjedii (Posts: 24974; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Excellent post Slammer, I agree with you while still preferring apple products. Your post was well presented. +1

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 08:49 1

77. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Very well said! +1

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 09:10

80. Sadman_Hossain (Posts: 18; Member since: 01 Oct 2013)

you said Apple person that says bad about Android. Here you go- check the user from youtube named AndroidPhonesSucks. Or just google it.

There are fan boys on both sides but some people take stupidity and idiocy to a whole new level.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 15:12 1

99. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1743; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Mxy and Quezdagreat talk s**t about Android all the time... what are you smoking?

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 15:31 1

103. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

You are confused.

Mxy just states his opinions and opinions are not facts. As you know, opinions are like anuses, we all have one. Mxy is basically harmless.

In contrast, the Apple-haters love to make bogus crap up (these weren't opinions) about Apple. You should read some of the posts when I first joined -- these Apple-haters were using just about every way to discredit Apple. It was a tough job, but someone had to discredit these nut cases.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 17:02

107. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1743; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I think YOU are the one confused and didn't even read what I was responding too. msa1988 stated that not one Apple person on here says anything bad about Android when in fact several do. Not sure what anything I posted has to do with facts, I just simply stated Mxy talks smack about Android...which he DOES. I could care less about when you first joined. No one is asking you to discredit anyone so quit wasting your time.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 19:01

112. darkkjedii (Posts: 24974; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Ardent1, don't give yourself a headache bro. Trying to make a point with eclipse is like talking to dead fly. +1, and you're right about Mxy. I love how he stands his ground, cuz he's the one getting attacked 99.9% of the time. GO MXY!!!

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:49 3

19. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

The fan bases for all OSs each have their fair share of idiotic, ignorant, and mindless people. It's just like sports.

Also, the iPhone 4S, in my experience, has a substantial amount of lag after the iOS 7 update, not just the 4. Probably due to the true multitasking, it just doesn't work with less than 1 GB of RAM.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:55 3

22. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)

That they do, but it's predominantly Android on this site.

Maybe you do more on your 4S than me, but mine seems to work quite well.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 09:16 1

81. darkkjedii (Posts: 24974; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Enjoy your device bro, but ASAP grab yourself a 5S. You won't regret it, it's a major step up from the 4S. It also gets every feature, and the processing power is "BEAST" (as my 16 year old son says after every dunk lol).

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 10:18 1

85. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)

I currently live in the UK on a Masters program and won't be back in the U.S. until December. I'll be riding out my 4S at least until then (no way can I spend £500 on an iPhone - or any phone for that matter). When I get back I'll evaluate all choices and see if I want to stay with Apple or explore other options. I'll most likely go with the 5S, but as I've stated, I'm open to all.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 12:09

88. darkkjedii (Posts: 24974; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Gotcha. +1

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 06:57 3

38. bucky (Posts: 3136; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

My wife's 4s is lag free too

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 06:39 2

33. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

You sound like a broken record. Any device past it's prime will lag. The 4 is nearly 4 years old, so obviously it'll lag.

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 06:45 3

36. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

But such rule doesnt work with Android devices, right? This excuse can be used only for iPhone?

posted on 02 Oct 2013, 03:44

123. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

But isn't lack of lag supposed to be the defining attribute of iOS? And don't iOS devices not lag nearly as badly prior to the latest OS updates?


posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:42 2

14. bucky (Posts: 3136; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

Comment of the year

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:44 2

16. bucky (Posts: 3136; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

Msa's comment that is

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:43 4

15. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)

We know, they're not very tech savvy, to most it's a fashion statement. .

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 05:52 1

20. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)

haha, nice one

posted on 01 Oct 2013, 06:12 4

27. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

"...Android users talking about how superior Android is from a statistical level."

Doesn't every Apple event starts from statistics which actually shouldn't be important for product user? :D

Android is superior than iOS from practical level since you can do more with Android and since it is more flexible and you can more easily adapt it to your own personal needs:


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