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iPhone X beats Macbook Pro in benchmarks

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Sep 2017, 08:24

The Apple iPhone X, iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus all come with a brand new system chip: the Apple A11 Bionic, and Apple was not shy about saying that it is the best chip ever put on a smartphone...

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posted on 13 Sep 2017, 08:28 1

1. dubaiboy78 (Posts: 290; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


Dis is the real beast!!! - iphonearena

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 08:33 30

4. Lumbergh (Posts: 358; Member since: 14 Feb 2016)


People will say what they want, but this should be fascinating to literally every person on this website. One doesn't have to be an Apple fan to be a fan of technology.

4000+ single and almost 10,000 multi core? That is unbelievable.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 09:09 16

13. thxultra (Posts: 254; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Best mobile processor by far. Not going to be surpassed for a while either. Have to give Apple credit they did the A11 right. Wish they would make a dock and a way to run full osx with a keyboard and mouse like Samsung did with Dex.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 10:24 3

33. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1669; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


Well, a while probably means until next March when they introduce the A11X. Honestly, this makes me really excited about the iPad Pro lineup for next year. If the regular A11 can beat a Macbook Pro, imagine how they'll tune it for the A11X in the iPad Pro. I am going to hold out for it instead of buying this years version because I think it'll finally take that last step towards being a tablet/laptop combo that the Surface has been for years now.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:00 4

44. yann (Posts: 405; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)


I'm sure the author must know the difference between geekbench for iOS and geekbench for macOS. Literally, now iktor compare apples with pears.
There is huge difference between full OS benchmark and mobile one.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:27

47. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


There literally isn't acutally a difference between Geekbench on MacOS/Windows/Android/iOS. They all run the literal same exact kernel script, etc ,regardless of platform

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 18:04 4

66. zunaidahmed (Posts: 1096; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)


There is actually, geekbench on x86 processor uses the CISC translator to make the app work, while on ARM it's using native instructions.

Geekbench may be accurate when comparing arm to arm architecture, but it's quite inaccurate when comparing x86/x64 to arm.

I did see someone ran a test, using the same video file on PC and iPad pro (a9x), Intel m5 easily beat it in Adobe premier video rendering, though, the PC had more ram, but that is fine as CISC instructions require more memory than RISC.

Is the a11 gonna be the most powerful ARM processor in a smartphone ever? Of course! But can it replace a SoC in PC, maybe in the entry level market but definitely not mainstream or high-end market.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 23:04

69. ibend (banned) (Posts: 6747; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


It may use exact same script but each of those OS got different background processes..
My PC score 10% higher when running geekbench on linux compared to win10, and that using the exacet same hardware, just different OS

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 14:57

59. Leo_MC (Posts: 3017; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)


Apple is closer to building a Mac on ARM; imagine a laptop that can be used for at least 24h :).

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 11:12

38. nctx77 (Posts: 2489; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


Dude, I swear they need to do this! These phones are powerful enough to pull it off now. We literally have full blown computers in our pockets!

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 11:46

41. southernzombie (Posts: 160; Member since: 17 Jan 2017)


I actually don't think it will take that long to surpass. That's kind of the trend technology. Constant one upping over the other guy. Don't know who it will be, likely qualcomm with their SD or samsung with the exynos chips will be deliberately trying to beat those numbers. that's just the way it goes. As it stands right now tho. Its incredibly impressive.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 11:52 3

42. sgodsell (Posts: 5057; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


The A10 Fusion GPU "GT7600 Plus(6 Clusters)" at 650 MHz is rated at 250 gigaflops. So that means Apple's A11 GPU should be rated at 375 gigaflops. So Qualcomms Adreno GPUs are still faster in the latest SD 835 (Adreno 540) which is rated at 570 gigaflops.

http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 11:56 1

43. Ninetysix (Posts: 2730; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


And here we go :)

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:09 1

45. kiko007 (Posts: 5733; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


What the hell are you talking about? Who's talking about GPUs here?

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:28 3

48. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Lul look again you going off on GFLOP comparisons between different GPU architectures.

You literally are saying that the Adreno 540 is over 2x faster vs the A10 GPU with your GFLOP metric comparison. Which is just not the case at all and is just literally completely false, every single game and graphical benchmark literally disproves this

The GPU in the A11 is guaranteed better than the Adreno 540, A11 GPU can provide A10 GPU performance at 1/2 power consumption, this means A11 is dramatically more efficient vs A10 GPU with it's 30% perf increase. This comfortably puts A11 in the lead in GPU and demolishes the S835 in CPU performance

We will have to wait until S845 until Qualcomm takes back GPU crown now, but S845 won't be able to beat A11 CPU, even with newer A75 cores from ARM

Please stop spewing such misinformation and nonsense on this site, brush up on your "knowledge" of this stuff because you don't even know what your typing

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 17:01 2

62. sgodsell (Posts: 5057; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


You are the one who is spewing what ever Apple wants people to hear. That link I posted does mean a lot, especially since those Ax benchmarks are from the jailbreak community. They don't use Apple's fudge benchmarks or their words to define speeds. Plus Apple has you to spread lies around to try and discredit others.

Here's a good thought for you mikehuntaIQ0, if the A10 GPU is roughly on par with the current SD 835 GPU (540), especially in your eyes mikehuntaIQ0. Btw the SD 835 currently can drive a 4k TV at a sustainable 60 fps. Then why not use the A10 itself to drive the new Apple 4k TV? Instead Apple is using their new more expensive A10X SoC with the extra GPU cores. Better yet why not use the new A11 SoC with it's 30% faster GPU over the A10. Oh, and didn't you say the A11 is comfortably in the lead with it's GPU over the SD 835? So please explain that mikehuntaIQ0? I personally can't wait for your answer. Btw the SD 810 does drive a 4k display as well at 30 fps, but as we already know the SD 810 overheats and throttles down when pushed too much.

You pretend to be some enthusiastic techie, what's even worse is you pretend to like and know Android as well. Which we both know you are not a techie, and you hate Android. I believe you are a paid Apple person to help promote Apple in anyway you can, even if it means being a liar, which you are.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 17:43 1

63. Ninetysix (Posts: 2730; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Measuring gflops is not a benchmark brosephine. What good is your gflops link when the A10 GPU s**ts on the Adreno 530 and comes close to Adreno 540 performance? Any comments on the iPhone 7 Plus (A10) vs the One Plus 3T (Adreno 530) vs One Plus 5 (Adreno 540) here?

http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5-review-1623p5.php

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 17:56 1

65. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


"You pretend to be some enthusiastic techie, what's even worse is you pretend to like and know Android as well. Which we both know you are not a techie, and you hate Android. I believe you are a paid Apple person to help promote Apple in anyway you can, even if it means being a liar, which you are."

Lol okay, everyone literally but you recognize's Apple's SoC prowess, you truly are clueless, no one gives a rat's ass what you think of me honestly, doesn't change the fact that what I say is mostly on point and accurate and objective, I back it up, you don't.. you have been proved wrong badly a few times in this past few weeks tbh and I don't know why I bother with you, you seem like a wall

I am a tech enthusiast, and guaranteed have owned more Android smartphones and Android devices than you, from all different brands, HTC, Samsung, Huawei, , Nvidia Shield tablet, etc

There is no question at all I am far more knowledgeable in this field/topic than you are. I don't treat tech like sports team like you do, I can recognize good and bad things and applaud, or disprove of them. You literally can't sit here and not say A11 is dam impressive, regardless if you are a huge "Android" fan or whatnot

835 has plenty of dropped frames at 4K, so no, it actually isn't a constantly smooth 60 FPS at 4K, you don't know what your even saying.

Yes the A11 will be ahead of the S835 GPU, it offers A10 GPU perf at 1/2 power usage compared to A10, that's a massive leap in efficiency and bodes extremely well in terms of thermal throttling/long term endurance

Most modern GPU's nowadays can output 4K resolution no problem at all, iGPU's in Intel devices, higher end ARM GPU's etc, not a performance pinnacle feature that only the best reach

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 00:02

72. sgodsell (Posts: 5057; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


All that to prove absolutely nothing. You are all talk. Btw the A11 CPU is fast,and I never said it wasn't. However the GPU is another story, isn't it. I own lots of smartphones as well, and I purchase a lot every year. But owning and actually testing yourself with your own source code, or others source code from the jailbreak and root community is the real test. Do you program? I program and make applications for a living. I have a vast knowledge of programming, and know many programming languages, including C, C++, C#, Java, and many more. If you had a fraction of the knowledge that I have, and you are a techie like you say you are, then you could easily enough find code that proves what I am saying is correct. Not to mention that link I provided told you what I already know. You act like Geekbench and some other benchmark apps on Apple's store are gospel.

You talk like the 835 can't maintain a 4k display at 60 fps. Well first of all it certainly depends on what you are doing to feed that 4k display. Are you running a game, or just watching a video? I know you are making up lies once again, because the the SD 835 can not only drive a 4k display, but can also drive an external 4k display as well, simultaneously. The SD 835 is fast enough to capture 4k video will displaying 4k content simultaneously. Look at the XZ premium for instance.

The A10 was 16nm, and the SD 835 is 10nm. Now the A11 is manufactured using 10 nm as well.

Now you go on talking about most GPUs nowadays can output 4k resolution no problem at all, which is your words. So then why would Apple use the more expensive A10X instead of the cheaper and newer A11, or for that matter, if most GPUs can output 4k, then why not use the A10 for Apple's new 4k TV. Right mikehuntsIQ0? Well the truth is the A10 cannot drive a 4k display. However the A10X can because it has double the GPU cores compared to only 6 cores on the A10. How much do you want to bet that the new A11 doesn't have 12 GPU cores like the A10X? You are here defending Apple at all cost, but you have the nerve and the gall to tell me that I don't know what I am typing. You have proven to me that you are another iMoron or better yet your just a plain iDiot. You just preach what ever Apple has told said. Techie my @$$.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:34 2

49. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Adreno 430 Snapdragon 810
APQ8094
MSM8994

20nm 500~650 MHz

324~420 GFLOPS

So you think the S810 is actually faster than the A10 GPU, because it has a higher GFLOP rating? The A10 GPU easily buries the GPU in the S810 despite having a noticeably higher GFLOP count. This is why GFLOPS are meaningless when comparing different GPU architectures, it is literally meaningless and doesn't translate at all into actual performance in the real world

You are making us actual Android users/tech enthusiasts look bad by trying to act like you know what your talking about and trying to pass it as fact. Please get updated. Anyone who is even semi-inclined towards this topic understands how wrong your comments are

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 14:58 1

60. Leo_MC (Posts: 3017; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)


Just stop, dude.

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 11:21

77. PhoneCritic (Posts: 1072; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Absolutely! This is a beast of a SoC and was expected as Apples SoC have always been the best ( first 64bit) . QC has always been caught napping on this front because of their complacency - Heck Nvidia caught them when they introduced the duo core chip back in during the Motorola Atrix days and even Samsung seem to best them with the Exynos SoC. So all kudos to Apple on this design. Now lets see what QC response and Samsungs will be? I am betting QC is reworking its SD836 to actually be the SD838 ( why they did not release it) and Samsung will just move to the 7nm Exynos. But yeah the A11 is a screamer

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 09:55 3

26. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Exactly what I have been saying yesterday, this is quite stellar and very fascinating, if your a fan of technology and processors and stuff, no matter what brand you may prefer and vice versa

People need to stop treating tech like sports teams

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 10:07 1

32. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4376; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


The 'only' thing that's great with the new iPhones.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 22:21

68. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1544; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Well said.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 13:37

56. Mr.Pussy (Posts: 167; Member since: 16 Feb 2017)


It's all about the software and what the hell are we going against a computer software that have tons more than a phony phone? If this goes against other phones yes and I gave Apple for their great software optimized credit. Android still have a long way in that department. You can't have a V8 engines carry 10 people vs 1 now.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 18:09

67. medicci37 (Posts: 1339; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Awesome phone! I would love to have one

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 08:29 13

2. meanestgenius (Posts: 17280; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Holy sht! That is a BEAST of a processor! Kudos, Apple!

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 08:31 9

3. Furkan (Posts: 142; Member since: 25 Feb 2017)


Nicee
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posted on 13 Sep 2017, 09:43 5

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