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iPad 3: which rumored feature do you want the most?

0. phoneArena posted on 06 Mar 2012, 08:49

Ladies and gentlemen, the latest and greatest iPad is going to be unveiled at the Apple event tomorrow, and the anticipation in the air can be cut through with a butter knife...

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posted on 06 Mar 2012, 08:55 14

1. JBz007 (Posts: 63; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

Where's the option hoping Apple won't sue everyone who looks at the iPad 3 wrong. That would be a nice feature...

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:04 8

2. oddmanout (Posts: 443; Member since: 22 May 2009)

I'm thinking to myself and if a higher resolution is the best thing to offer, I don't think I'll make the upgrade from iPad 2 to iPad 3. Maybe it's just me but these "rumored features" all seem too natural. I'd expect nothing less than everything in that poll.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:06 1

3. ddxmms (Posts: 170; Member since: 09 Feb 2012)

the first two options together will make it awesome..

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:31

10. oddmanout (Posts: 443; Member since: 22 May 2009)

True, but they have to make a product that can compete and do more than the competition can for a whole year. The TPrime almost does the same in a nice package and that's before mentioning the competition down the road.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:08 8

4. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Where's the option to "Make the ipad3 ethically, without slave labor"

I'd check that.

Hell, I'd buy an ipad3 if they could prove by a REAL independent company that it was made 100% ethically. I'd buy one just to say thanks for starting to give a damn about humanity.

For shame people.. for shame.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:22 2

7. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

Oh the horrorrrrr.

BTW, the correct spelling is ethiCally; always cApiTaliZe a consonant that succeeds a lower-case "i".

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:31 2

9. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

spelling police.. oh my! good thing i wasnt turning this in for a grade huh?


posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:33 4

11. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

durk, who dares post before I can edit!! lol.

what i was trying to make it say was

"good thing i wasnt turning this in for an iGrade, huh?"

I dont drink the apple flavored kool-aid, sorry :)

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:35 1

13. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

No need to apologiZe...lol (iMean iLol)

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:43 3

14. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)

you think any tech products are made outside of such practices?

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 10:40 1

31. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Granted Foxconn and companies like them make the bulk of the products. Other companies take a more ethical route.. and yes, most of them were forced to, so change doesnt happen for free. Samsung is an example of that. They do most of their main mobile products in house. Their employees get paid more than foxconn peeps, they have health benefits and vacation/sick days and no forced 24-36 hr shifts like apple-foxconn workers.. Granted it may not be up to "american standards", but thats not what I'm looking for. Very few countries get the types of benefits we get here.
Im looking for humane. Apple-foxconn is not humane.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 11:32 3

34. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)

foxconn makes a majority of electronics on earth and for a ton of manufacturers. and foxconn is not the only one with such practices.

samsung may have vastly better conditions, but i assure you they use some components from other companies and some of those companies use questionable labor practices.

i agree its awful, but to act like buying an ipad is bad and buying some other tablet is good is naive.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 13:15

38. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

whats worse... taking some sort of stand or throwing your hands in the air and saying 'oh well' and helping it continue?

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 16:35 2

45. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)

I agree with you remixfa however you can go ahead and plan not to buy an Apple product for years I think. This is also true for other companies such as, and this hurts my soul, Asus. The main problem is that no one gives a s**t. The small amount of people that do give s**ts have done great jobs for their numbers.

The only ones that can change the practices are the consumers. Yes, not buying an iPad will send a message. Apple is big enough and important enough that they are the leader to follow. The one thing someone like Apple, who finds success through customer trust and loyalty over technical innovation, cannot afford to lose is their customers.

How innovative is the iPad really? Its specs are not that impressive, even if all the rumors proved to be true. Really they aren't. People tend to compare the iPads to $300 tablets instead of $800 tablets. Why is this? Because Apple has a name people can trust. You expect an Apple product to be high quality and that's why you'll drop more money on it. I know. (Typed on MacBook Pro)

Sure other companies are not any better, but other companies aren't sitting on piles of money with $500+ shares. We expect successful companies to give back, like General Motors after the bail out or BP after the oil spill.

If you buy this product, you are telling Apple you will buy it anyways. You are telling them that as long as they get the product to you, you will feed from their hand unquestioning. Maybe it's worth it to you. You have a responsibility to vote in your government and you vote with your money for corporations. Sure, we can't expect Ron Paul to win, but I don't think that's the plan. Perhaps the plan is to get popular enough just to tell your message so people cannot ignore it so easily.

tl:dr You vote with your wallet. Even if it's only one vote, maybe it is enough to influence the others.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 19:39

50. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

i really dont think it is an apple thing… how can u expect apple to switch operations out of china and into the US, where they will not be able to make money? cause honestly try as they might (not saying they are) but american corporations are not going to fix the problem in china-- they will eventually fix themselves…

and the ipad is pretty darn innovative… it kinda created the consumer tablet market… u cant just say oh its brand name and marketing.. there has to be a fantastic product to back it up… and instead of spending money on unnecessary tech specs that most people dont care about, apple creates a sturdy and captivating product… u cant say apple created a huge tablet sector on loyalty…

and i think giving back is more of a personal thing than a corporate thing… people like bill gates are extremely generous, but he doesn't give up Microsoft's funds, its his own… additionally, i dont think bp was extremely charitable until after the oil spill-- which was to right a wrongdoing and save their company…

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 19:52

51. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i feel like ive explained this 1000 times.. because i have

its not an "apple" thing, its a mass problem. Apple happens to be the biggest and the worst of the foxconn suppliers.. by foxcon's own words. by foxconn's words, the major suppliers set the working conditions and the wages as part of the supply contracts they have. apple makes 70% per iphone/pad, foxconn makes 2% on the contract. if foxconn wants to raise wages they have to renegotiate the terms with apple or whomever the customer is.

Are the jobs coming back to america? doubtful. Could they? yes, quite easily. Would it create a mass hike in product prices? very unlikely. most of the impact woud be absorbed by apple. they would make a 55% margin per device instead of 70%. Samsung, qualcomm, Ti, Moto, and even Nokia have or had manufacturing operations in the US. Samsung is opening new factories in texas for their chips.

Am I trying to bring the jobs back to america? NO. Thats not my goal. That would be a dream come true, but right now I'm fighting for the first step, ethical conditions in the products we buy. Who orders from foxconn? nearly everyone. Are conditions equal at foxconn factories? No. Apple's ipad factory in chenzen gives workers an average of around 60-70 cents an hour.. MS's Xbox factory gives them about 1.30 an hour. Neither are good. The mass suicide attempt was at the Xbox factory a few months ago.
Am I boycotting just Apple? No.. that would be too easy. Im also boycotting brands I actually use like MS, dell @ foxconn (they manufactur outside of foxcon as well), Asus, and dozens of other brands. It sucks, because I am a first in line customer for the last 2 Xbox's and I had planned on being a first night customer for the next Xbox.. which I wont be doing now.

If its made at foxconn, i wont buy it. I am trying to get others to do the same. A very minor sacrifice in the electronic toys of our lives can force a drastic improvement in thousands of peoples lives over seas. If enough people loudly proclaim a foxconn boycot, things will change. On just some very minor bad publicity both Apple and MS raised the rates at their factories (and it still sucks). What do you think would happen if a large group of people kept the press on them and didnt donate their dollars to them? Things would change.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 20:39

53. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

did i ask you? but since u must… here goes…

i fully agree that conditions are bad… but honestly i dont think americans should scarfice their businesses when the chinese people cant figure it out… let them revolt! it would be better for america in the long run… and i dont own very many products made at foxconn either save for my mac cause it is very wrong what happens… but it is not up to america or american companies to determine it… do you think china would stick up for us? and ya i would like to say we are a "better" society too and help… but we cant afford to always be the policeman of the world

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 20:46

54. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)

Don't put words in my... keyboard. Nowhere did I say to move operations to the US. They did create their tablet sector on loyalty. Introduce iPhone (yes, very innovative) build on that popularity. Every iPad owner I know has an iPhone and/or Mac. Of course there are others that go against the mold but these are generalizations.

Also, sure it was Gates and not Microsoft but Microsoft is not as profitable as Apple. Apple is sitting on huge sums of cash. At this point it's safe to say their profit margins are greater than what they need to be.

I have my own feelings about this idea. It is not within my patience to explain the whole situation but I base my ideas on history. Think Upton Sinclair, the American child labor disputes and so many more. You seem intelligent enough Lucas777, and I say this not to demean you but to hopefully direct you, no problem has ever fixed itself. It is based on the people who will do whatever it takes. The Montgomery Bus Boycott worked out.

Also, corporations are absolutely persons now (Citizens United).
American corporations also led to the modern Chinese labor laws.
If you are American, you must remember that you have rights as well as obligations to govern yourself. If you do not, someone else will, and they will do it for their own profit.

No disrespect, just something I'm quite outspoken about.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 21:26

55. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

my bad.. i normally assume people want to bring jobs to the us.

there is no "need to be" product margins… if we truly follow our capitalist system (which we should) then everything works itself out-- people get jobs and other people make money…

i think i portrayed my "fix itself" wrong… i agree that leadership needs to come.. but i dont think it comes from foreign intervention.. when britain faced the industrial revolution, they worked themselves out gradually over time nobody came in and forced it on them.. others such as Russia overcame their difficulties and are on the track to work themselves out… i just dont think its for foreign intervention

as you said, i have rights and obligations to myself and my country… not to the chinese… i mean its really a horrible thing to have to do, but i just dont see america as able to help china… they certainly dont help us in many respects… I think the best solution would be to imply the gradual change towards a stable, democratic nation where there is not corruption… as the chinese make more money, they will become more educated and eventually realize what their country has come to on a mass scale… its a pattern in history so i think it will happen again

and this is the internet comments section! i would never be offended.. possibly annoyed though haha

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 21:45

58. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)

Ah yes. I see where you are coming from and now I will propose an agree to disagree sort of thing since this has strayed quite a bit from the subject potential iPad 3 features. Cheers. Sam

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 22:47

61. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

comparing china and brittain are apples and oranges. Brittish people had and have a lot more rights than Chinese people. Brittish people dont get murdered in the streets for speakin against the government.

America is actually a prime culprit for Chinese labor. Our companies and government have worked with their government to find "mutually beneficial " agreements for labor. Sweat shops and slave labor were the agreement they came up with. That whole "American's dont want to pay more" mentality is what has allowed this to be swept under the rug for so long. Yea, just about every other country is helping screw the workers too, but America is by far the largest consumer in the world... so in that respect, we have control over world wide working conditions. If America said No More and actually meant it.., the rest of the world would change with it.

posted on 07 Mar 2012, 00:01

63. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

and if we said no more, we would tank our economy even farther and the global balance would literally have to reset itself… so sacrifice the global economy for china? no--- they need to gradually sort themselves out

and britain at the time was (is?-idk grammar) quite comparable to china… workers made barely enough to survive--they even passed laws the make life more miserable in order to "spur the workers to work"… socialists were barred from government but eventually, as can be seen right now, all is well… but Britain did it on their own.. they didnt (and couldnt) depend upon anyone else

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:09 3

5. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

iWant an easy ApplicAtor and pull string for easy iRemoval and iDisposAl.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:15

6. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I voted screen and camera .

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:30 2

8. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

ThiS survey is iBogus, we should be able to vote for all or there should be a sixth voting option, "All of the above"!

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:34 3

12. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Also, hey.. your missing another button

"app compatibility with the new resolution"

until apps are made to run with the higher resolution, they are going to be crap. good luck with that. :)

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 10:01 2

19. oddmanout (Posts: 443; Member since: 22 May 2009)

Can you imagine the hassle with iPhone apps that are enlarged on a screen that big with a resolution that high. Instead of 2x you'll have to 4x or 16x lol.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 10:03 1

20. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

lol, they will either be pixelated to all hell from the zoom, or they will stay in their natural aspect and be in a tiny box on the screen.

people dont think about that when they get all excited. lol

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:45 2

15. Virile (Posts: 38; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)

It funny how people bash Apple for the "Poor Working Conditions" when half the stuff we use everyday come from the same type of chinese sweat shops.

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 09:53 1

18. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

its funny how people just willingly accept that their products are made with the blood of slaves, since "everybody is doing it".

Not everyone.

And it doesnt make it right. The only way to stop it is to stop buying products made in that manner. Does it severely limit your product options? Yes. But if everyone had the willpower to do it for a year or 2, then manufacturers would get the hint and improve conditions or face going out of business.

Or you can just go along and keep buying those super high profit margin devices knowing that just a little bit of action could have improved & saved thousands of people's lives. Join Gallito in the "its not in my house so i dont care" mentality.

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