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iOS Maps will be great for Apple (and Android users too)

0. phoneArena posted on 27 Sep 2012, 17:13

We’ve all had a good laugh over the past week after seeing the troubles that users have had with Apple’s new Maps app in iOS. But, we just want to say one more thing on the topic, because Apple's decision will be great for the company, and may be great for you too (even if you're an Android or Windows Phone user)...

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posted on 27 Sep 2012, 19:27 1

21. wendygarett (unregistered)

I don't have heart attack, instead I think this article is awesome...

I almost forget all of my downloaded apps since ios6 because I'm too busy too play Apple map tho :)

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:11

32. jimjam (unregistered)


posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:16

35. wendygarett (unregistered)

hey how can you change the comment...

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 19:15 1

20. medicci37 (Posts: 1335; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

Biased much ? This article reads like 1 long apology 4 Apple's decision to replace Google Maps.

posted on 28 Sep 2012, 00:25

56. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

An explanation of motives and reasoning is not an apology, it's an attempt to show the whole picture.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 19:42

24. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

Good article. In the end it comes down to data, which is the real goldmine for any company in the future. Google has been doing an amazing job collecting data of all types with its search, map, and mobile os services. It is at the backbone of their business. The service or application that ties into it just goes towards collecting more data. Apple, with Siri and its map service, has sought to get control of its ecosystem and the data that is generated. It was a smart move from them. I imagine that the game going forward, with Microsoft and its services, Apple, and Google, Nokia, even RIM, this will be a very interesting time to be a consumer generating all the data.

posted on 30 Sep 2012, 11:05

76. epdm2be (Posts: 651; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)

"In the end it comes down to data"

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 19:45

26. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

i also think too! too tired to read the article but the tittle i agree!

it is good for iOS to have their own services now! but as long as apple update it and be par to what google and nokia maps are offering!

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 19:46 2

28. epdm2be (Posts: 651; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)

"Google has competition, and that’s a very good thing."

Bulls**t! Google had competition before Google Maps was in existance. PNA have been around for longer than Google Maps. And are (stil) far better.

Google Maps is STILL not a true off-line navigation system. Apple Maps is also NOT a full off-line navigation system. Stop deluding people by assuming it is a full navigation system like a regular PNA which uses offl-ine maps as a primary source while Google and Apple maps do the oposite!

The only build in smartphone navigation app that comes close to a true PNA is Nokia Maps! And this is only build into Nokia devices (Symbian, Harmattan and WP7/8).

Again stop giving the wrong information! Be honest. Apple maps suck! Just as Google maps suck. Google only adds more 'services' that require your device to be online and thus require expensive dataplans!

Which is what end users want to avoid. They buy an expensive smartphone WITH an navigation app to avoid paying for an additional PNA!

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 22:14 2

50. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I never mentioned traditional GPS devices because it's not relevant to the topic. Constantly online maps/navigation systems found on smartphones are a completely different thing than a TomTom or Garmin that you'll find in a car. Maps systems like Google Maps or iOS are used far more often for simple tasks like finding a place to eat, rather than actual navigation, which changes the dynamic.

Not to mention, smartphone maps can be constantly updated without a need to update software like on a traditional offline device. No one is saying Google Maps is a true offline navigation system, nor is it trying to be. Navigation is a great feature, but there is so much more that can be done with smartphone maps than just that.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 19:56 1

29. Fuego84 (Posts: 352; Member since: 13 May 2012)

This article sounded like it was written by a blinded ifanboy. Okay Apple's failed maps is still great because it was made by Apple. Bullshot!

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 22:07

48. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Ugh. There is nothing worse than commenters who apparently don't even read the article.

I never once said that the product was great, or even good. All I said was that it's a first generation product that will likely get better, and that it will be very valuable to Apple because of the data it will mine from users.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:08

31. jimjam (unregistered)

It is funny how whatever apple do it ends up being thought of as great

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 22:08

49. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I'll just point you to what I've said in response to everyone else who has taken the same biased reading of the article.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:12

33. jimjam (unregistered)

Apple should replace google maps - yes good idea
Apple creates own map app - bad idea

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:17

36. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

As usual, great article Michael.. Your style of writing is really distinctive..

Well, I have to agree that apple really needs its own map, and that will ultimately only drives innovation for the rest of the players (if and only if there is no patent war again in this field).

But on the other hand, I have to say that I'm baffled by the rushed move. They still have a year of contract, why not better it (the map) while waiting for the contract to end? Or, why not include it as a separate app, so that users can try it without having to be led to a wrong direction by the current Maps?

Great article, Michael..

posted on 28 Sep 2012, 00:26

57. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Seems Apple may have been limited in the improvements it could bring to the Google Maps app because Google wouldn't allow use of turn-by-turn or vector maps.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:19

37. theBankRobber (Posts: 682; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)

Everything Apple is a Beta. Siri, Maps, both have issues and Apple says, its in beta stage. I say it again, why advertise it if its in beta and have bugs and issues? Not just hey heres these services in beta, want to try them out? No they make ads about these features knowing it doesnt work as advertised.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:21 1

38. Savage (unregistered)

Basically the bottom line is every mapping application will get better. Google and the rest will take inspiration from Apple's features and improve their products. I don't see that happening for some time now. You don't just get a mapping app right in 1 year. At this point, Apple is in no position to compete Google and Nokia Maps so it'll have to wait. Going by Apple's previous habit for providing small updates (Siri takes a year to learn about movies and sports, still can't do everything you ask it.) their maps app will take atleast 5-10 years to match Google and Nokia.

However, this might be an exception as a majority of people are more dependent on Maps rather than Siri so Apple might be providing bigger updates than usual. So we have no idea of how big that update will be. Maps to get fully better next year? No sir. It'll have to wait. Till that happens, Google and Nokia maps are the best alternative Apple users have.

And anyways, Google's already bringing out new features (Recently Ocean View) and continuing to refine their product. They don't need motivation from Apple to better their Maps. I mean, I don't see Google bringing Flyover. Its a useless feature and they already have street view which is enough.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:26 1

39. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

All great, but will the consumer care it's a beta? And have the patience to wait? Sure it will be great "for the future".

When I need to rely on a map, you pretty much need it "NOW". Seems more likely that people will download better maps apps for now.

posted on 28 Sep 2012, 00:30 1

58. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Customers seem to have quite a bit of patience with Google's beta products. Also, customers may not outwardly care about a beta tag, but it does help forgive a lot of bugs.

Really, I think the best option for Apple would have been to call it a beta, and only release it to a certain set of users in order to help find the biggest issues.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 20:31 2

40. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

we pay for beta release since windows phone 7.

yes, we could happy with these days competition, but someone at something on someday in someway playing anti competitive by suing everyone at everything on everywhere.

closed big great wall we face from the "leader of the world".

so, untill this ridiculous stubborn patents wars ends, i'd still doubt about fair competition. and we all know, who start the troll with so vaguely patents.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 21:10

42. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)

Well, i prefer to have Google monoplize things rather than Apple.

posted on 28 Sep 2012, 00:31 1

59. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

So do I, which is why I use Android.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 21:56

45. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

great article as usual...know i will always get an unbiased view from you..Personally I thinkGoogle maps is almost perfect and can't imagine what else they can add to make it even better... like you said though with more competition from apple(not competition yet far from) Google maps will only get better and due to the huge amount of data Google has iI think no matter what Google in the maps area will always be ahead... Lol also who do you think will be the 1st to sue over some function in maps... my bet is apple

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 22:04

46. AlexYouOC (Posts: 53; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)

Everythings sweet until Apple somehow finds a way to patent Maps and then tries to sue Google.... i can already see it coming smh

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 22:17

52. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Please guys. Please, for me, can we just leave behind the damn "Apple will sue over _____" remarks? It's getting really tiring to see them on every single article we post regardless of the article topic.

Feel free to give Apple crap when it does sue over something stupid. But in the meantime, the comment is so overused, it's just annoying at this point.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 22:32

53. mcart123 (Posts: 9; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)

Well they do sue everyone.

I think they deserve all the crap they get. I mean a rectangle with Uniformly round corners? Wow. I have seen rectangular man holes in the street that fit that description.

posted on 28 Sep 2012, 00:33

60. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Yeah great, so give them crap when it makes sense. Comment all you want about rounded corners, because that is ridiculous. But popping up on every single article with "Oh no! Apple's going to patent birds and sue Rovio!" or some such nonsense is just annoying and stupid.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 23:11

55. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

As a writer I know your pain... Your articles are decent man and you know it. Just don't care abt the comments. Internet is full of trolls and fanboys. We all have certain 'bias' and love to hit the others where it hurts. But yeah, sue comment is now being overused.

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