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iOS 6 “fragmentation” detailed: which device gets what

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Jun 2012, 08:27

“Fragmentation” has been a word heavily loaded against Android and a term a bit too broad for our liking. It’s true that software updates on Android devices…

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posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:40 1

78. ilia1986 (unregistered)

taco - once again you keep pushing the fact that for many Android models - *official* software updates are few and far between. For the most part - that is true.


Since Android is an open source OS - ANY device which can be rooted (95% of all Android devices afaik) can get almost any Android OS to run on it. How well it can run? That depends on HARDWARE. As it should be.

When it comes to Apple however - it's not hardware limitations which dictate which device gets which iOS features\version, but Apple's grand "profit milking" strategy which keeps the best features for the newest devices ON PURPOSE. In order to boost sales. Not for any other reason.

Why is this happening? Simple - iOS is CLOSED SOURCE. No matter how much you tinker with it - it's nigh impossible to run a new iOS version on an older officially unsupported device.


When it comes to Apple products - YOUR MONEY BUYS LESS - because your device WILL stop receiving iOS updates\features LONG before hardware limitations dictate so.

When it comes to Android products - if your device can be rooted (95% of all android phones can be rooted afaik) - only HARDWARE LIMITATIONS prevent you from enjoying a particular part\feature of the OS.

This latter situation is as it should be. Software capability\availability should be limited by hardware. NOT by any sales strategy.

So - if you want to get the most bang for your buck - as everyone does - you will get a device with open source OS. I know I will.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:46 1

79. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

i can make almost any android running ICS.. it's OEM that doesn't push updates in order for users to buy newer models.. Android is open source, if you could get the source, you are all set..

It is not fragmentation of the OS, but rather OEMs' faults.. get the difference between the two..

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 13:23 2

84. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Face taco, iOS is now fragmented. No matter what defense you try to throw out there, the fact is there will be Apple devices running two or more different versions of iosbecause Apple will no longer support them. This has nothing to do with carriers holding back updates, or features being withheld. When most iOS users are updating to iOS 6, I will still be looking at a very laggy iOS 5.1.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 14:16 2

89. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Name one phone that can handle ICS that hasn't either gotten it or isn't slated to get it.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 14:36 1

91. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

welcome back general...

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 15:11 1

93. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

C'mon taco50 you are smarter than that. How can you even say that? Apple is now suffering from the same thing you always talked bad about. Fragmentation is an inevitable thing that can't be avoided. All OS's suffer from it due to technology moving forward. There is nothing that can be done.

You yourself said that you are disappointed with the fragmentation on the iPad 2. That is proof right there about fragmentation on Apple products. It would be better just not to say anything then to post what you just posted.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:46 1

64. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

LIst needs to be clarified, some stuff is going on the ipod touch latest gen (4tth) vs the older gen.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:36 1

77. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

At some point, we are going to have to redefine"fragmentation". I truly do not feel this is fragmentation as we define it. If you are able to give updates, but do not because there are too many steps and differences in the device, it is fragmented. If you are delivering the updates that you are capable of, than you are not.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:55

82. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

you are just making excuses, sheep..

fragmentation is fragmentation.. and this is a case of it..

you'll have different version of iOS6 running with different features in different devices..

and btw, "If you are delivering the updates that you are capable of, than you are not." Google does deliver the ICS updates, it is OEMs that do not update the phones..

so i think, rather than saying Android is fragmented, i would say, Samsung/HTC/Motorola/LG/Huawei/Sony/etc is fragmented..


it is only up to the OEMs whether they implement those features or not (e.g. face unlock is disabled for devices like One V which has no FFC).

get the difference correctly, and stop making excuses.. why is it that when SJ said android is fragmented, it is used widely and indiscriminately against all android devices, but when now iOS proved to be the same, craps are flying in to defend it..


posted on 13 Jun 2012, 20:33 1

99. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

feel better?

Which of my dozens of posts saying I would be all over Motorola, Samsung, or a Sony Android if WP 8 wasn't what I wanted when it hits makes you think I am a sheep? Which part of how much I am impressed with the uniformity and capabilities of ICS, and only seeing how those three UI's work with it would be the deciding factor?

Oh, wait, you don't have a clue about that. What you saw was something your knee-jerk reflexes saw as "pro-Apple", and you pounced, name calling and all. Because of course, calling people names on posts ALWAYS makes points better.

Actually, the way I look at it is this: The term fragmentation is negative in mobile, so let's completely freaking ditch it. But, for Android and it's updates to be considered on a case-by-case basis (in other words, let's look at Moto and it's decision to not give not the Droid 3 and Droid X 2 the ICS update just in regards to those two devices, and not as an Android as a whole thing), we need to start by looking at Apple the same way. This graph does it. Phone Arena did Android NO FAVORS to this by inciting it in the opening comments. You do Android no favors by assuming that I am a Apple sheep, when in fact I am a WP Geek who happily will move to ICS if Microsoft lets me down. I just want to hold each OS and Manufacturer accountable for their actions, their decisions, and their support. Fragmentation is getting to be too easy of a slam. It require no intelligent thought.

Like calling someone a sheep.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 23:23 2

102. smacsteve (Posts: 75; Member since: 16 May 2012)

At least Apple will update all of it's devices at the same time! And they'll work too!

posted on 22 Jun 2012, 02:24

106. joey_sfb (Posts: 6613; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Please add AirPlay mirroring via Apple TV into the chart. Currently only iPhone 4s and iPad 2 or later has that feature.

posted on 10 Oct 2012, 17:34

107. griffitj (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)

I wasn't going to comment on this, but the failure to make distinctions in some cases and proposing pseudo-distinctions in other cases, along with all of the fanboi status accusations got to be annoying. Cudos to snowgator and biophone for calling people out on the bogus and pointless fanboi accusations. In that new tradition, and just to get that out of the way, if i am a fanboi of anything, it's utility and WebOS (you read that right, WebOS)--it's better than iOS, and Android is just now catching up on the main features that make WebOS such a good platform. Unfortunately, first Palm and then HP ruined that innovation with piss poor hardware, marketing, and management. The _only_ thing they had going for them was good OS and good designers. Thankfully, Android has taken ides/features/concepts that were at least inspired by, if not stolen/appropriated from WebOS (cards anyone?), and began innovating with them.

Now for the failing to make or to acknowledge distinctions. This is _not_ a case of fragmentation is fragmentation, folks. As several people have pointed out, Apple is rolling out regular updates, both major and incremental, to all of its current devices. Some _features_ of new OS's are not delivered to some devices, but that is because Apple has determined that some devices will not adequately handle some features. If they have been to conservative in those estimates, that is a separate, not necessarily less important, issue. In the meantime however, they have delivered the heart and soul of the updated OS to each device. Saying it's fragmented is like saying I don't have the latest _full_ version of Windows just because my copy didn't come with Internet Explorer. In the first place, thank God! b/c I can't stand IE and second, who cares? I have an iPhone 4S with iOS 5, and I never use Siri. I'm not impressed with it and Android's comparable capabilities are no better. As far as I'm concerned the tech for voice control (at least for the consumer market) is not there, yet.

To be continued...

posted on 10 Oct 2012, 17:45

108. griffitj (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)


Conversely, Android updates only making it to some Android devices _is_ fragmentation, and it's not good. Yes, yes, i know Google fans, it isn't Google's fault, or even Android's, b/c the full update is always released in its entirety. But those updates don't make it to consumers' phones reliably. Yes, i know, it's those pesky manufacturers and carriers that are to blame! Well, guess what? Google/Android's marketing/distribution strategy relies on those manufacturers and carriers, so it is Google's fault, and they know it, hence the increased focus on Nexus devices. So, let's respect Google for treating it as a responsible adult organization capable of accepting criticism. Attempts to foist the blame onto OEMs or carriers are attempts at pseudo distinctions. This is how Google has chosen to deliver Android and that delivery method is flawed and, yes, fragmented, regardless of where in the chain the fragmentation occurs. And let's give credit where credit is due: Google recognizes the problem and is taking steps to improve matters. Let's see where the increased focus on Nexus takes us.

If you want to talk about problems with OS rollouts, I really don't think we need to talk about fragmentation to score hits on Apple. iOS6 has not exactly been a success case. I won't be updating anytime soon, unless there are some major fixes.

For the record, I love Macs, but i'm not necessarily an iPhan. I love Google (and Chrome), but I'm not a big Android fan (although the latest OS's are definitely starting to impress me). Android apologists, all this "See, iOS is fragmented, too!" talk is embarrassing and smacks of helpless paranoia. It implies that you believe that, if not for the fragmentation, iOS6 _is_ better than the Android's latest, or at least better than whatever older version you're using. _Is_ that the case? If not, put your focus where it belongs, on an underwhelming update "improved" features that turned out to be humiliating.

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