With the iPhone 8, Apple surrenders design leadership to Samsung

Ever since the original iPhone, Apple has been the leader in build quality and aesthetics. This year, however, Samsung has assumed the role of design leader and trend setter with the Galaxy S8. Here's where Apple slipped up.
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85. aroutis

Posts: 34; Member since: May 05, 2015

If you say so buddy... doc told us to always agree to whatever you say.. I mean, sure... S6 edge looks like iphone 6.. uh huh.. suuure. And like, S8/S8+ looks like an s7 edge or what not...:D

130. tedkord

Posts: 17128; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Wow. You don't even stick a toe into reality, just to see how warm it is.

35. Cyberchum

Posts: 1013; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

"iPhone 8 is the most refined smartphone, but it looks so 2014." Ahhh, Ray S couldn't stop if he tried. How did the "most refined smartphone" managed to look so 2014? . We need a ray of light somewhere.

42. cmdacos

Posts: 3870; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

" Yes and no. Yes, because the iPhone X is expected to be the most exquisite phone with an all-screen design so far" Can't stop laughing at this comment...

107. sissy246

Posts: 6997; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Yeah, lol That's why other phones still have more screen to body then the iX

131. tedkord

Posts: 17128; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

And with that sentence, you know Ray already has the review written.

47. LiveFaith

Posts: 362; Member since: Jul 04, 2015

Samsung "made the switch to quality materials". This is freaking hilarious. If you made tires for a new car out of glass, or the seats out of aluminum, you would have a striking design in automobiles too. Except it would absolutely be a functional piece of garbage. Denting, heat sensitive, slippery, and scratch prone aluminum is NOT "quality" for a mobile device either. Metal is "quality" if you want jewelry. Not if you want functional. Putting fragile glass on a mobile device is so utterly perplexing that I won't even bother to comment. If you want jewelry and a fashion piece then by all means yes. If you want a better mobile device, then Samsung drastically downgraded after the S4. "Quality" is a phrase based

49. kiko007

Posts: 7489; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Plastic is in many ways more functional, but considering the price of these "flagship" phones, I can see why people wouldn't want plastic enclosures on their premium smart device. Also plastic distributes heat very poorly and wears pretty quickly when not cared for. Having said that, I liked the Nokia polycarbonate designs and thought the iPhone 5C was incredibly sturdy compared to other iPhones I'd owned previously.

76. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

If phones still had plastic enclosures, they would be cheaper. Metal and glass has lower yields, and the equipment is also more costlier, which has driven up cost. If you notice nearly every phone Smasung makes that use to be plastic is now 40% highe rin cost after going metal/glass. Please wake up. Example, the Galaxy S was 599 for years. As soon as the S6 came out it went to $650. Now the base S model is $750. Isn't that about 40% over $599? iPhone was also about $599, now the same base model is now nearly $800. Isn't that about 40% increase? All the new designs have done is driven up cost. We now have costlier insurance to cover them against damage. Then we have 9H screen protectors which are expensive for good ones. Cases are even more expensive now just because they can be. Manufacturing costs have gone up due to expensive equipment and lower yields. The only thing great about designs now is looks and feel. Nothing more!

48. luis.aag90

Posts: 272; Member since: Aug 12, 2014

I would say Samsung took the design crown about 2 years ago with the Note 5. Arguably there S6/S6 Edge were the trendsetters but the design wasn't perfected yet, the Edge screen was beautiful back then and the bezels were already smaller than Apple's offerings, but the back case looked unfinished due to the flat sharp edges and big camera hump. The Note 5 addressed those issues with a curved back and less prominent camera hump

108. sissy246

Posts: 6997; Member since: Mar 04, 2015


51. Rocket

Posts: 625; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Finally a good article in PA :)

89. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

No, not really.

60. Diego!

Posts: 857; Member since: Jun 15, 2009

OMG... I'm going to faint... I can't believe iPhoneArena.com is praising Samsung over Apple! Everybody make a wish!!!

61. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Samsung has the design nailed down. They need to support their phones longer though. S6 should get the Oreo update at least anyways.

135. Tabby_Tiger

Posts: 305; Member since: Jan 23, 2017

The price that Samsung charge for their flagship models is very comparable to Apple, it's really time Samsung gave at 3-4 year support to their top tier models. This should also apply to Samsung's flagship tablets!

66. haruken

Posts: 303; Member since: Nov 06, 2013

We did it fellow Anti Apple squad, even for one article, we did it.

75. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017


77. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1343; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Ray S Just can't deny it any more as this is the fourth generation of Apple devices that really look the same and show no change. To have praise the design or simply pass over it would have made him and PA look foolish as every other major tech blog has complimented and praised Samsung for their current designs and lambasted Apple for even saying the iPhone 8 has a all new design. Yet, PA gave the device a 9.2 rating- one of its highest ratings. If it was HTC, Nokia, Blackberry etc.. that introduced the same old design they would have deducted at least 2 points for the dated design which is why I say PA is so hypocritical and bias in its reviews. I give the iPhone all praise for a truly magnificent SoC but the rest is really nothing more than what the industry had years ago.

79. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

I wanna know why its only the iPhone 8 surrenders the design lead to Samsung. The S6 and S7, both flat and edge, all look way better than the iPhone 6/7/8. The Galaxy S8 simply reaches what I think the plateau of the edge design as far as they can go with it. Next stop? All the edges will be slopped and we will simply be gripping nothing but a thin rim on the side. The next stellar move is, the front facing camera will either be very small and won't be round but rectangular, or the front camera will be removed completely. After all you don't need a front facing camera for selfies, because the Galaxy can find you face and you can use the heart rate sensor to snap the photo.

83. tedkord

Posts: 17128; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Sorry, Ray. The iPhone surrendered the title after the 5s. Since the iPhone 6, Apple designs have been derivative (of the HTC One M7) and plain ugly.

86. strikerchooooooo

Posts: 1; Member since: Oct 11, 2017

"if you look closer, you'll see that almost all of the elements that make it so great are already found on the Samsung Galaxy S8. However, the GS8 is also available in a range of fashionable, coordinated colors, while the iPhone X comes in just black and white, limiting its potential as an accessory for self-expression" - PA, since when do you hire short-sighted, unemployed, uneducated, Bulgarian C-students to write this rubbish?

88. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1521; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

I thought the iPhone 4 was terrible compared to the plastic Galaxy phones lol. But than Apple stepped up their game with the 5, 5s, and 6. Of course by then Johny was full of himself and hasn't bothered to do any design work in years. Now Apple has the out dated design as most Android manufacturers are putting out better designs.

126. tedkord

Posts: 17128; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I'm thinking Ive has always been a hack, but Jobs kept him reigned in. His post Jobs designs are atrocious.

90. darkkjedii

Posts: 30830; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

This article should've been written when s6/edge came out. iPhone design wise is dead, and the X won't change that. That ugly notch, vertical side mounted camera, and the gray model is 3 different colors, like the gold 8 Plus. This year Apple made it sooo easy for me to skip the lineup...Note 9.

91. mudcat626

Posts: 218; Member since: Jul 13, 2016

Lol, Samsung Defense Force played again.....

92. redmd

Posts: 1910; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Ray S. is one handsome dude.

98. MaryPoopins

Posts: 324; Member since: Jan 15, 2015

"Ever since entering the scene in 2007, Apple has been the undisputed king of smartphone design." I stopped reading there :D

136. Tabby_Tiger

Posts: 305; Member since: Jan 23, 2017

Well, there's no disputing that they got it right the first time....as for what happened afterwards, it's disputable. And no way in hell in disputing their profit margin!

99. p51d007

Posts: 700; Member since: Nov 24, 2013

You morons are so sucked into this whole "hip" crap of "fashionable, colorful, stylish" BS... IT'S A PHONE! Not a piece of jewelry (although the way some people clutch these things 24/7 you may think otherwise). These things are rectangular slabs of plastic, metal & glass! Until this whole hipster garbage of slim, colorful, stylish runs its course a few things will continue to happen. REAL change/innovation will NOT happen. Batteries will become smaller Gimmicks (processor speed, brightness of the screen, goofy dual/triple/quad cameras) will continue to be the norm. THE PRICES for these things will CONTINUE TO RISE. A 200-300 dollar price cost per build, should not equate to a retail delivery price over $1000.00, but, as long as consumers are foolish enough to pay that, can't blame the manufacturers for charging it!

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