Windows Phone 7.5 Mango overview

The Windows Phone Mango update has finally landed, and it is time for us to go over some of the new goodies that Microsoft has thrown in the set. Why not all of them? Well, Microsoft went above and beyond with this one and added 500 or so tweaks and improvements to the platform. However ...
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1. ReturningToNokia

Posts: 130; Member since: Jul 09, 2011

PhoneArena Staff: Flash is not missing - it will never be included with this platform. Thus, it is recommended that you do not state that it is missing as that can connote that Flash 'will be coming' at some point. Mango has been out, officially, for a month, and this is all that PhoneArena could do in terms of a review? Also, this platform has over 30,000 apps in the Marketplace in just under a year of being on the market. PhoneArena, silly you. PA readers: For the actual review of Mango, please visit TIMN, Engadget, ArsTechnica, Gizmodo, ZDNet, PCWorld.

16. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

if it is not there, then it is missing. Android has it, wp7 and iOS dont. Android runs it flawlessly. What I think is funny is they make note of the fact that mango is catching up to features that others have had for a while.. well, isnt that what iOS5 just did? try to play catch up to some of android's long standing features?? lol

19. ReturningToNokia

Posts: 130; Member since: Jul 09, 2011

@remixa...The ability to make and receive a call is standard and required; Flash is not. A phone does not NEED to have Flash functionality, otherwise ALL mobile operating systems and websites would utilize it as the defacto. Flash is not missing from Windows Phone - It is not needed nor does Microsoft want it.

21. crankyd00d

Posts: 191; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Well aren't you the poster child for mediocrity. If more consumers thought like you we would still be using stones to lit up fires (or maybe wood?), or everything our smartphones could do was make calls, then they wouldn't be smartphones anymore and we would not be reading this or other websites to get a better product with more/better features. If your competitor has it then it IS a missing feature, simple as that

24. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2248; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I am not a WP7 user, but I agree with those on here defending WP7. The reason it doesn't have flash is because it has support for HTML5. Which if you look up any PC article or any web browsing article, it is what the internet is moving towards There will always be a need for Flash for complex graphics, but in this case I think Microsoft decided people on their mobile phones didn't need to see those complex graphics. What I mean by complex graphics are those sites that have that slideshow pop up and you have to click skip to get to the actual site or if the site has a heavy interface with graphics. Now, WP7 also has support for Microsoft Silverlight which allows it to view some websites that use that as well. The point I am trying to make here is: if you like flash, great. But, is flash necessary when it comes to a phone? No.

22. Penny

Posts: 1844; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

I'm with ReturningToNokia on this one, PhoneArena. In many parts of the review, it seemed as if the features were being very superficially described and/or downplayed. There was a more in-depth explanation of why you feel WP7 isn't comparable to Android or iOS than there was on any feature of Mango. To name a few things: - No mention of Live Tiles? - You can easily get a dedicated Twitter App, if of course you just want to waste more time opening a single-function application. - Facebook and LinkedIn are integrated as well as Twitter. Don't forget about those. - No mention about the standard Messenger at all? The one-stop place through which you can chat with your friends via Text SMS, FaceBook, Live Messenger, and LinkedIn? - Bing features - the point isn't simply that you can do these different types of searches, but that they are integrated into the OS and you can do each at the touch of a button. Simply press Local Scout to find places to eat, places to shop, and things to see near your location. Click visual search to scan a variety of media in real-time, from QR Codes to book and album covers, to text that you can then translate or simply copy to paste later. Not to mention reviews, prices, and retailers are then provided once you scan something. Music Search - basically a built in Shazam. Overall, sorry to say PA, but you guys really dropped the ball on this one. I'm a fan of WP7, but objective enough to stick to the facts.

27. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

Look at the front page of this website. It tells you who the staffers of PA are. If its not iphone or android, you won't get a decent story. PA is a great site for some great news but they do show their biased views i think

2. arcq12

Posts: 733; Member since: Oct 13, 2011

is there like a Root or Jailbreak for WP7 phones?

4. GJanee

Posts: 214; Member since: Jun 29, 2011

well ChevronWP7 was there at the time when the OS came out, but now they're supporting the real WP7 team, so i'm not sure about the JB thing. but the guys at XDA-Dev are always up to something, maybe you should look around there.

3. The_Miz

Posts: 1496; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

I'll take this over Android any day

6. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

I agree. Depending on what ICS brings, I'll be switching as more become available. These phones are a great alternative to IOS and Android. They seem to have more catching up to do than most, but when they get there they will be huge.

7. greenroboto unregistered

AGREE Android and Symbian is WWWAYYYYY better than this WP7. WP7 icon looks boooooorinnnnngggggg.... to me, WP7 (metro UI) is just like Microsoft bob*.... *the biggest MS failure... lead by melinda gates....

9. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

Well they just added more support for live tiles. That is always more appealing than just having icons on your homescreen? Sure, it isn't live wallpapers, but it is pretty damn close. Pretty soon developers will be making "toggles" on the tiles, for switching WiFi, GPS, Data, etc. That would be something cool to see. I don't think it is boring at all, but if you want customization, get an Android.

31. Schmao

Posts: 365; Member since: Jul 05, 2009

You are entitled to have your own opinion, but I must disagree on this one. Neither Android nor Symbian are as you put it " WWWAYYYYY better than this WP7." They are different OSs for different customers. Each has its ups and shortcomings. That is the beauty of the Market nowadays. We have choice!

33. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

I agree, there is a vast majority of choice in what OS to go with nowadays. iOS-Standard, Android-Customization, WP7-Fluidity and fast responsiveness.

8. arcq12

Posts: 733; Member since: Oct 13, 2011

is there a reason behind your statement? or it's just as vague as you are?

20. The_Miz

Posts: 1496; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

Why? It's my right to say I prefer WP7 over Android.

23. arcq12

Posts: 733; Member since: Oct 13, 2011

I'm not taking that away from you miz, I'm just asking why is it so. You always bash or underrate android with no reason. I think you should tell us why.

11. sonisoe

Posts: 440; Member since: May 06, 2009


5. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

I'll probably sell my EpicTouch when a good Mango phone comes out. Simple is nice.

13. snowgator

Posts: 3614; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Hope Sprint even supports it. As they push the iPhone, they used a picture of the Arrive to promote the buy back program that they are using to get more iPhones sold. It is covered in ivy in the picture as if it is a three year old device that is outdated instead of a half year old device that has just been updated to the latest software. Doesn't bode well for Sprints outlook of WP in the immediate future.

15. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

Yeah, that is a crappy commercial anyways lol. I just looked on EBay, and the phone is selling for around 200. In store is 450. They are getting outdated really quick. I hope I made the right move by getting the EpicTouch now, and then selling it, rather than waiting, because it could be months, if not years, until they get a decent one. I don't really understand with the iPhone, the WP7 UI is gorgeous, if you don't like Android or iOS. The icon/grid thing is been there done that, to the point where they are copying off of eachother. I guess a Microsoft rep came into sprint, and has said that a decent WP7 should be in around November. He trained everyone on Mango and from what I heard, it was a good experience.

18. snowgator

Posts: 3614; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

THAT is good to hear. I wonder if that LG Fantasy is headed there. I was actually hoping it ends up on Verizon. That would be my loss and Sprints gain.

30. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

Knowing Sprint, Verizon will get it lol. I seriously have the worst luck. I'll hold my breathe. :P

10. karanstyle

Posts: 188; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Same application switching exists with Android as well. Only switching from 1 to another app the Android loads it from starting. Thank god atleast Windows Mango can hold upto 6 app.

12. snowgator

Posts: 3614; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Not going to pretend it is a deeply integrated, mature OS just yet. But the experience is near flawless, the Mango updates to all devices shows Microsofts dedication to it's users, and we all know where Windows Phones is headed with WP8 on the horizon. You can purchase a second generation WP and know it will be supported. The lack of expandable memory is mystifying to me, but most other missing features can be forgiven. I would rather it do everything it is designed to do well while it builds into a better OS than it try to do everything all at once and it be a crappy experience. I do kinda agree with Returningto Nokia though- Phone Arena this is a very unimpressive write up for a Feature on Mango. I would like to add WP Central and WM Power User as a great sites to visit for a good write up on the features and abilities of Mango if you are interested in a full run down on what it does as well as what is still doesn't do. It isn't for everyone, but it is a great, smooth operating experience for those that like it.

14. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

Again, I agree with you Snowgator lol. I really think Microsoft needs to push these phones out asap. 4 million iPhones and 30 million GSII's have been sold this far. Who else will be left? Kids in India? This is a bad move from Microsoft, and it is sad because I really want a WP7. And a decent CDMA at that. The one phone I am limited to, sucks. Its not like they were the first to make the smartphone, or have the newest technology (processors, screens, cameras, etc.), so what is the hold up? If they don't hurry, they will be on bottom selling less than 300,000 units like last year. :(

17. rayjones09

Posts: 149; Member since: Dec 16, 2010

I've mentioned it before but I'm not sure if I've done so on this site. The supposed lack of features isn't the real problem, and here's why. Most of these features that WP7 is thought to be missing are present in Windows Mobile 6.5 and below. Multitasking as well as Copy and Paste were present in Windows Mobile amongst its vast array of features. Windows Mobile had more features than iPhone, so how did it fall behind? One of the primary means was by marketing. The marketing for iPhone (and other Apple products) was more like a branding of a generation while the marketing for Windows Mobile devices (and now WP7) are rare and far in between. Microsoft can run the features race all they want, but that isn't what will necessarily help them gain traction. A successful marketing campaign is needed. If they have that, they can lack features all they want, people will still buy their devices.

25. kemjus

Posts: 32; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Alright, I'm coming out of the closet on this one... I'm thinking I may switch to windows from android. I have messed around with all the high end windows phone and in summary... Mango just makes sense... its very simple and smooth.

29. Joshing4fun

Posts: 1244; Member since: Aug 13, 2010

Agreed. Android has amazing customizing capabilities but along with that is a more choppy looking interface. Not saying its necessarily laggy, but it just doesn't flow and look elegant.

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