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Will the outcome of the Apple vs Samsung case stifle or help innovation?

0. phoneArena posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:17

The Apple versus Samsung legal battle now has a definite winner. After months of endless discussions and polarizing opinions, it has brought a kind of a legal drama…

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posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:25 23

1. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Unless someone invents a way to scroll through a list more effectively than with one finger, to zoom in on something more effectively than by using pinch-to-zoom and indicate that one has reached the end of a page more effectively than rubber-bouncing - it's an insane loss for consumers and a great impact on consumer choice and freedom.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:48 14

8. wendygarett (unregistered)

Soon Google will patent 'command to zoom' and 'taste to unlock' to replace Apple so-called innovation :)

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 07:36 7

15. Aeires (unregistered)

I don't think I want to taste my phone.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 07:54 7

19. wendygarett (unregistered)

Nah, just sayin :)
Im satisfied the face unlock on my android phone
It makes me convenience to show my pretty face on it :D

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 11:25

35. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

I would like you to show your pretty face one me :D

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 07:46 6

17. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

nah, it will be think to zoom! and double blink to unlock. lol

Or they could make you snap along to the Adams Family theme song... that would be entertaining at least to see people walking down the street doing that. lol

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 09:07 2

31. Victor.H (Posts: 785; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Laughed at the Adams Family snapping along idea! You know, you should patent it, remixfa, it's money :)

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 10:04 2

33. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i got me some official Apple "iNapkin" patent drawing paper, and Imma get to work on that :)

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 12:15 2

38. tedkord (Posts: 14119; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Nice try, but all those actions are just zero length pinches. The only way to escape Apple lawsuits is to not compete with them.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 17:21 2

48. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

the clapper didnt take off as expected... so i dont see the snap to unlock.. but at least the writer seems to thinks so.. have fun unlocking your phone at a crowded stadium..

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 21:31 1

55. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

That was half the joke.. watching other people doing it and the randomness it would cause.

Way to completely miss the bus on that one. Not everything has to be crazed fan warfare.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 07:49 3

18. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

"Lick To Unlock"

Hmmm.. That seem legit.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 16:50 2

46. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)

People must stop buying and boycot Ape products until all lawsuits are drop.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 18:42

52. Hemlocke (unregistered)

Allowing companies to just steal patented processes would stifle innovation far more. How is allowing cheating more conducive? If everyone can do the same thing on all phones, then why bother developing the next great thing or a better way to do anything? There is absolutely no incentive to innovate if a company knows that any company can just copy their work without spending the time and resources actually developing the process. If a company, like Samsung, wants to use patented Apple processes, then they need to pay for it. If the price is too high, develop an alternative.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 19:05 4

54. xaz0r (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)

Actually it's kind of fair. Apple is just as welcome to use Samsung's ideas as Samsung is to use Apples. If everyone shares then it's still fair. The fact is, if anyone can take the idea and do it better or put it to better use, then I think it's only fair that they receive the profits. If I invent or innovate something and somebody else comes along and does it better than I did, then I better find a way to do it better or they get the business. It's called "competition". It actually drives the free market and is great for consumers. Some companies don't like it so much because it means they have to keep inventing and innovating or they can't stay ahead.

What Apple is trying to do is essentially monopolize through patents. While the stated purpose of patents is to protect innovation, their current function actually hinders it.

posted on 09 Sep 2012, 10:49

61. Hemlocke (unregistered)

You made the argument for the ruling NOT stifling innovation. By telling them they could not just use what Apple developed, it forces them to either license, if they are lazy, or create a better way of doing it.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:26 3

2. MeoCao (unregistered)

If the rulings stand Android users will have to pay for multitouch functionalities unjustly.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:29 5

3. wendygarett (unregistered)

this decision will make more innovation in order to kick apple away. Consumer will soon be a winner

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:31 7

4. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)

It will help, as it may (!) help companies worthy of being top Android manufacturers as HTC and Sony to raise their market shares thanks to the Samsung image loss.

Now, Apple and Samsung monopolize the market. Apple turned the whole mobile device market around with its innovations, now they are only refining existing products. I did not see much innovation here in the last year... Okay, there was the retina iPad. End of it, as the iPhone 4S was disappointing for Apple innovation fans as me, despite selling like crazy. Lets see, what the next keynote brings - is Apple gonna start degrading or is Apple gonna keep evolving.

And there is Samsung. Samsung makes decent hardware, but with the exception of the Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S3 their products, especially regarding software, design and build quality, were kinda fails. Samsung i a mass-market assembler, but i do not see much innovation from them other than making devices larger. They tried to make some useful software gimmicks on the Galaxy S3 and Note 10.1, but judging by the reviews of experts like The Verge, they failed hard to do so.

Now there is HTC. A company that specialises in smartphones only, that can make beautiful and refined products - trough the newest Sense performance kinda meh. Same goes for Sony that also has a big base of content (Playstation, multimedia) for their devices and refined design philisophy. Let us give them a chance too. Im tired of alike-looking Samsungs.

And not to forget Asus that, in my opinion, rivals Apple both in design and hardware. I would be happy to see them enter the smartphone market and continue their rise to a tablet top manufacturer behind Apple. Transformer series >>>>> Galaxy Tab.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 08:08 12

24. JMeyerSA (Posts: 9; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

I work in a cellphone store in Cape Town, South Africa, and in one week more than 200 people came to exchange their iPhone for the Samsung Galaxy S3 and other top Android devices. And we have a question we ask all our customers when they return phones, "what did you think of it", and 95% of them replied Apple dont give enough support and iOS is lacking behind Android and even Windows Phone.

Now to my point: Apple is unfairly trying to dominate the mobile phone market by taking Samsung to court over the stupidest patents. And that is going to slow down innovation. Apple is scared that the smart consumers see that Samsung products are better then their own stuff.

Apple's biggest products are the iPhone and iPad, And Google and Motorola are busy with legal action against Apple about those two products, and if Apple loses that they can do nothing but close their doors. Nokia is also thinking about taking Apple to court aver some infringement. So the biggest names in mobile technology is now going after Apple.

I feel sorry for American consumers now being bullied into buying the stupid iPhone.

Apple South Africa asked us why so many people are giving back their iPhones and iPads, and my obvious reply was "Apple is stupid and Android is the way forward".

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 08:16

25. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

I was so close in being convinced about everything you just stated, until I read your last statement in the last paragraph. Except that, I agree about everything else you said.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 08:33 2

29. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

We've seen a massive changes in customers in store switch from iPhone to android. Boredom and the lack of freedom in iOS is a crucial factor. Certainly outside the. US apple is falling well behind

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 17:52

49. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

I hear that Apple consumers bring back their phone all the time. hey is normal it happens in Android too.. besides the sales still back up Apple as being successful, unless sales start declining I will start believing that people don't like the iphone

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 08:26

27. hung2900 (Posts: 965; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

Transformer series always get the good reviews but still having a insignificant tablet sale (though it's better now with the cheap quadcore tf300 and Nexus7). Do you know why? I bought three Asus's tablets, and here are reasons

- Bad build quality, even worse than Galaxy Tab series. My Prime is the worst decision I ever made.
- Really bad firmware. They update frequently but a lot of issues.are still unsolved.
- Bad warranty. The bootloader is tricky because it will void your warranty.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 17:08

47. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

Newest Sense performance is great. Unless the newest Sense that you're talking about is 4.0. I'm using Sense 4.1, battery is better than ever and performance is rockin. Looking forward to JB now.

Other than that, completely agree with you on ASUS. Padfone is a great idea, but not an idea that I could afford.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:33 10

5. BreakingNews (Posts: 5; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

Latest: J. Robert Oppenheimer is suing Apple for going thermonuclear on Samsung. Apple are currently trawling through Nazi documents in an attempt to show prior art.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 07:10 5

14. Victor.H (Posts: 785; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Ha, good one!

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 06:35 6

6. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

Stopping innovation is all apple is doing because they're scared that people are starting to see that Samsung's products are better.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 08:02 1

23. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)

Wow, you really hit the nail on the head!

And btw, happy 13th birthday!

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 09:50 1

32. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

Its not my birthday... ps I'm 16,not 13

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