What could be Apple and Samsung’s answer to the Pixel 3a?

Google released a new type of mid-range phone in the form of the Pixel 3a which offers a flagship camera on the cheap. Will Apple and Samsung answer the challenge or pretend there's nothing to worry about? We try to find out!
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84 Comments

1. Phonehex

Posts: 758; Member since: Feb 16, 2016

Samsung and Apple are hugely established . Google's pixels... not so much. I don't think they're bothered about Pixels at all at the moment.

4. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

First of all Apples hands are far from being tied. Apple choose to put a crappy Low resolution LCD display on their iPhone XR and put thé XR price at $750 USD, or $1030 CAD. The XR or 7 don't support HDR like the higher resolution Full HD+ AMOLED displays found on the new inexpensive Pixels (3a). So you can't watch any HDR movies or videos, and you can't even see any HDR results from any XR or iPhone 7 pictures. That's a joke in 2019. No wonder why Apples iPhone sales tanked. Samsung already has a number of mid range devices which are priced already at mid range prices. Not to mention you can find their previous flagship devices at or close to the new Pixel 3a smartphones. Plus Google has stated that these new Pixels get 3 major updates, plus all the security patches. So that works out to almost 4 years of updates.

17. TBomb

Posts: 1394; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

While Apple's hands aren't "tied" they are definitely restricted by their long term game plan. They are self-restricting, but still restricted.

18. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

XR display has a pixel density higher than s10e's. XR is not designed to be a media dedicated device ( you have the Max for that), it is a powerful office device (the most powerful in Apple's portfolio and maybe in smartphone world). XR is the best selling SMARTPHONE (compared to any model from any brand) of 2018-2019. Considering Apple's business model, it's safe to say there is not going to be any new iPhone in that price range, at least for a while.

27. Whitedot

Posts: 771; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

a) How come? b)I don't see a single reason not to be. "XR is not designed to be a media dedicated device ( you have the Max for that), it is a powerful office device (the most powerful in Apple's portfolio and maybe in smartphone world)." c) It was obvious from the start

45. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

a) s10e uses AMOLED (research how many red and blue light sources this technology has). b) it can be used to consume media, it is not designed for that.

52. Whitedot

Posts: 771; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

a) Indeed. b) Designed to be is subjective language. This phone has all it takes to be perfect media consumption device even though I do exclusively use android.

66. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

b) I'm not saying one can't consume media on XR, I'm just saying that there are better options.

67. Whitedot

Posts: 771; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

b) maybe

81. Marcwand3l

Posts: 426; Member since: May 08, 2017

He is trying to suggest that because OLED's perceived sharpness is lower than LCD's at the same ppi that the XR actually has a higher ppi but that is WRONG. First the 10Se uses the latest Amoled technology so assessments made 5-8 years ago don't hold much value in present day. But anyway even Galaxy S5's Amoled screen was much sharper and more detailed when reading text in comparison to iphone 6's LCD screen which has the same ppi the XR has. And thta's the worst case scenarios for an Amoled screen. So the S10e does have a much sharper display than the iphone XR.

83. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Nope, s10e doesn't have a sharper display than XR; it's still 306 sppi vs 326. s10e is able to lit more green pixels, but that doesn't help with the sharpness.

28. TBomb

Posts: 1394; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

The s10e has PPI of 438 (Samsung.com). Hope this helps your research!

47. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

But only 306 red and blue sppi.

32. true1984

Posts: 864; Member since: May 23, 2012

the xr has a lower resolution and a larger screen. how is the pixel density higher?

48. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Because it uses a different technology which has all the pixels fully lit.

37. kumicho

Posts: 3; Member since: May 20, 2019

XR - 326ppi 10e - 438ppi 3a - 440ppi As for Apple's strategy, they themselves are admitting falling iPhone sales. They're refusing to list numbers, but the revenue from selling iPhones plummeted 17% year over year last quarter. That's what's called "not good" in the business world.

49. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

XR - 326 sppi s10e - 306 sppi 3a - 310 sppi

59. Vancetastic

Posts: 1103; Member since: May 17, 2017

You can play this game as long as you wish, but there’s no excuse for Apple to have not given the XR a pixel density at least equal to the old plus series. Ok, maybe the money and profit excuses...

68. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I can explain why the fhd resolution of the Plus iPhones introduces a new level of complexity for the developers, but this is a user's site, so you are right: even though the display of XR is one of the best LCD there is, Apple has no excuse not to have fit a fhd display.

63. tedkord

Posts: 17307; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Don't bother. He also claims the iPhone X doesn't have a notch. You're arguing with one of the true believers.

69. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I will say it again: iPhones do not have notches, they have some "ears" where Apple managed to extend the display around the FID system and ff camera (just like the first LG V phones or HTC something).

75. srgonu

Posts: 537; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

Good to know people like you exist. :)

34. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

That an all their phones now cost $1000 outside the US. I think that really the top main reason. Apple fans don't care about resolution liek they use too, because they no longer have the higheest resolutions and havent since the iPhone 4. But when the 4 first came out, that's all they use to talk about was the high PPI for the iPhone display and how Android phones all had crappy displays. Then the S2 came out and that has solenced them since. Now they've moved on from resolutions because they don't argue facts they know they are gonna lose. They only argue facts they can debate. Right now they are applauding the lower resolution of the XR for the increased battery life. And yet phones with 1440p displays are still lasting longer than ever the XR. They are flip-flops just like Trump. Apple sales are tanking, because they priced themselves out of 98% of the world's market. Once sales start falling in the US at significant pace, which will happen starting with the iPhone 11, we will see what the fans will try to cling on for life to then.

64. User123456789

Posts: 818; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

HDR for photos is just for better exposure. You dont need HDR screen to see results. Does not change anything. It matter for HDR videos..

73. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Your just as bad as Leo_MC with his lies about how the XR has a higher pixel resolution than the Pixel 3's. If you take HDR pictures with the iPhones camera, and your display doesn't support HDR, then you are seeing any HDR images, period. What you are seeing is a display that cannot display HDR, but tries to display it the best that it can do, which is NOT HDR. Try to think, HDR stands for high dynamic range, yet the only iPhones that can display any HDR content is the iPhone X, XS, and XS Max. That's it. All the other iPhones CANNOT display HDR content, period.

84. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

It's just how the technology works, dumb ass.

2. monkeyb

Posts: 409; Member since: Jan 17, 2018

Did Apple call the XR a budget phone? Also, the only thing every tech site is reporting is about the camera. Nothing else. Everyone else needs to respond because of the camera. Nothing else is important. Its only and all about a camera. Lol.

6. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Tim Crook used words like great value, which is a complete joke. It's far from great value. That low resolution HD LCD display is crap in comparison to the AMOLED display on the new Pixel 3a. Especially since the Pixel 3a has a higher resolution Full HD+ resolution that can also display HDR content. The XR and iPhone 7 have a much lower resolution HD+ and HD resolution LCD displays that do not support or show any HDR content. With Apple customers always have to settle with less, because Apple needs to give more money to its investors. Because ultimately that is what everyone wants, right?

10. monkeyb

Posts: 409; Member since: Jan 17, 2018

I asked, when did Apple say its a budget phone. The fact you just spewed hatred on Apple rather than discussing a question shows everything. And of course Apple needs to give more money to its investors. That is the most important job of any CEO. If you cannot understand something as simple, its sad.

19. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Pixel 3a has 310 full lit pixels per inch, 3a XL has 282; XR has 326, which means its display is sharper than both pixels. Would you care to explain how 282 is better than 326?
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