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Why did Apple avoid talking about Android in the iPhone X announcement?

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:01

In many ways, the Apple event unveiling the new iPhone 8, iPhone X, Apple Watch series 3, and Apple TV 4K was business as usual for Tim Cook and company. There were plenty of features in Apple products that were legitimately new as well as plenty of other features that Apple talked up quite a bit but have been part of the smartphone ecosystem for years. One thing that was odd though was that there were no mentions or even backhand swipes at Google, Samsung, or Android...

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posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:03 45

1. Jacksie66 (Posts: 76; Member since: 03 Feb 2017)


Because it doesn't want their presentation to turn into a clusterfűck like the phonearena comments section..

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:13 4

7. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 448; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


I think Apple simply announced so many things during this keynote that they had no time for trash talk. They announced 3 instead of 2 iPhones, plus Apple Watch, plus Apple TV. That’s much more than usual.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 13:01 17

24. sgodsell (Posts: 5057; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


The where you said 3 iPhones is not a lot, especially when two of them are not much of an upgrade from the iPhone 7 and 7 plus. Sure the new iPhone 8 and 8 plus have a new SoC A11 like every year, the same ram, same size IPS LCD display with the same resolutions. The only other change is the glass back to allow wireless charging. So in reality not much of a change from the iPhone 7 and 7 plus. That leaves only the new iPhone X of the 3 iPhone's.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 20:21 12

115. ibend (banned) (Posts: 6747; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


"no time for trash talk"
But 90% their presentation is literally trash talk, like glorifying old tech, or praising features that's already on other phones for years as if it's the first one in history..

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 15:37

156. RoryBreaker (Posts: 98; Member since: 11 Oct 2015)


Apple is in NO position to trash talk

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 15:50 1

79. KyleRiemen (Posts: 146; Member since: 29 Oct 2014)


There is no need to mention Android, when you have the revolutionary features on your side. Something you never thought you would need, but you can not live without, once you get introduced to it. "The one more thing". A poop emoji with your facial expression!

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 15:58 9

80. kg4icg (Posts: 78; Member since: 18 May 2008)


Nothing revolutionary about things and gestures that have been around for 5 years

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 01:04 1

137. joey_sfb (Posts: 6760; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Gestures that the steal from Palm Pre WebOS.

Apple is wiser not to mention Android as 8 out of 10 persons are using Android in one form or another trash talking would only make them look bad.

It's Windows vs Mac days all over again in the phone arena.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 18:18 2

98. audibot (Posts: 208; Member since: 26 Jan 2017)


because they just copied everything thats on android phones and samsung phones and htc phones after years of delays and they know it.
also thanks apple my shares lost almost $2 each share. should have sold last night and bought today.

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 00:01

127. sumphatsmack (Posts: 24; Member since: 10 Aug 2017)


That's due to the Face ID not working

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 10:20 1

145. BlackhawkFlys (Posts: 653; Member since: 07 May 2014)


No, because they gave that job to phonearena.. They couldn't throw jabs at Android because most of what they did with the iPhone X was catching up with Android..

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:03 5

2. kiko007 (Posts: 5733; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


You dudes are milking it for all it's worth I see. No shame.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:06 7

3. Metalspy8 (Posts: 65; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


because they are still playing catch up to android...im sorry PA but we all know iphone Xrap is old tech..every youtuber i know is not WOW with anything apple does ..let just wait for google to announce the pixel...heck SHARP had promotion before the ipad pro and sad to say iphone X didnt have that. so when an android phone comes out with 120 hz i dont want to hear apple did it first..

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 00:03

128. sumphatsmack (Posts: 24; Member since: 10 Aug 2017)


You are going to hear it, I will remind you ;)

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:10 26

4. tedkord (Posts: 14726; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It comes down to two things - first, like Michael said, a lot came from Android, and why would you draw attention to that?

Second, Tim Cook is an adult, not a petulant child like Steve Jobs was.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 15:41 1

78. sissy246 (Posts: 4223; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Exactly
Why would you put down what you took from Android.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 18:29

105. AxelFoley (Posts: 255; Member since: 30 May 2017)


Tim Cook is still the one who said "we can't be the innovators for the world" and "we just want people to invent their own stuff." All the while he was copying everything invented by everyone else. As good as he is overall, he's not above immaturity at times and taking unfounded shots at competition..

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:11 10

5. Mels13 (Posts: 113; Member since: 23 Jun 2014)


Because its a copy of s8 with 2010 year specs

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:18 3

10. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 448; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


Certainly not. This year‘s iPhone Camera is without competition. Especially the one from iPhone X has no competition maybe only from iPhone 8 Plus.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:32 26

17. tedkord (Posts: 14726; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


We hear that every year at launch, then the reviews come out.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 13:43 7

43. Jolliebee (banned) (Posts: 39; Member since: 12 Sep 2017)


Seriously? Most of the new camera stuff is all software related.

All we want to see is what most will do which is point and shot.

If you look at the camera specs, the iPhone X camera still has tinier lens vs the Note 8.

The Note 8 is 1.7 and 2.4 aperture While Apple is 1.8 and 2.8.

I am sure the camera will be better than it was on the iPhone 7, but it wont be better than the S8 or Note 8, accept on this site probably, in seeing the complaints about bias.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 14:40 1

62. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 448; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


Iphone X has 1.8 and 2.4 aperture. The software in combination with the ISP and the camera sensor make the difference. My feeling is that Apple has the edge here over Samsung.

Not to forget that Apple is also using its neural engine to analyse the scene. Quite remarkable if you ask me.

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 00:57 1

135. sissy246 (Posts: 4223; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Both cameras are going to be awesome. I think they will be very close to each other.
One will do one thing better then the other but they will both be very nice cameras.
I mean really , between Pixel, V30 , Samsung and apple they all have great cameras.

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 10:24 1

146. BlackhawkFlys (Posts: 653; Member since: 07 May 2014)


"Not to forget that Apple is also using its neural engine to analyze the scene. Quite remarkable if you ask me."
It sounds great. Words like neural engine.. Don't base your opinion on hearing big words... make a decision after comparing real life photos of the same scenes...

posted on 14 Sep 2017, 15:40

157. RoryBreaker (Posts: 98; Member since: 11 Oct 2015)


Now I'm convinced that you've never seen images from the S8, Pixel or LG G6

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:12 3

6. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Don't think Apple is scared of Android at all. They have no reason to be

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 12:20 3

12. kiko007 (Posts: 5733; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


The two platforms operate under two starkly different principals that keeps them from encroaching on each other's foothold. Trying to frame it as though Apple would fear Android is the same as an American fearing civil war in Somalia; why would they care?

(Should've probably chosen a different scenario other than a humanitarian crisis...)

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 13:44 4

44. Jolliebee (banned) (Posts: 39; Member since: 12 Sep 2017)


You don't have to be scared when you already lost.

Not talkign about money. I'm talking about who really is advancing tech and moving forward and gettign us better stuff sooner.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 13:59 4

50. kiko007 (Posts: 5733; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


Techie's new account?

Because businesses give f**k all about any of that "giving us advanced tech" bulls**t, that I can assure you. It is ALL about the dollars. Always has been, always will be.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 14:28 2

57. tedkord (Posts: 14726; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Sad but true.

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