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While a 4 inch screen satisfies Apple iPhone buyers, Android purchasers want more than "mini"

0. phoneArena posted on 11 Oct 2013, 01:55

While the 4 inch Apple iPhone 5s and Apple iPhone 5c together are selling very well, it seems that the smaller "mini" versions of Android flagship models are not; according to industry sources, sales of the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini have been floundering, although part of the phone's weak sales has to do with the generally weaker sales of the full-sized model...

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posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:01 2

1. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

Smaller sized smartphones are better handled and made by apple. Android is better in what it is making by producing larger phones

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:22 3

3. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)

Maybe people with bigger hands would buy a iphone 6 if they got bigger... I'm tired of hitting the letter, next to the letter i want, just because the keyboard is so small, for one thing. :(

I'm a ios and android smartphone user, and windows 7 laptop user, and a iMac.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:20 5

2. NAWF_SIDE (banned) (Posts: 40; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)

Who says that?? I dont want a smaller phone

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 07:52

15. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

He thinks he can speak for everyone I guess. Typical apple user

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 08:58 1

18. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)

He thinks we forget the rumor YEAR AFTER YEAR that the iPhone screen will get larger. He thinks we forget being told the screen size was "perfect" and designed for "one handed use". He thinks a quad core with 2 gigs will have lag. He thinks "ecosystem" is still some sort of relevant point.

Yeah...typical apple user.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:24

20. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Lol, he/she has a WP icon, don't think they are using an iPhone.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:22 6

4. Doakie (Posts: 2227; Member since: 06 May 2009)

Uh... Mid range phones don't sell as good as flagship phones no matter which company makes them. The iPhone 5C is the midrange Apple phone and tons of reports said that the iPhone 5C was piled up and not moving that initial weekend while 5S' were selling out. The only reason the iPhone 5S sells the best is because it's Apples flagship. It's the best iPhone you could get. If Apple released a 4.5" iPhone 5S and a 4.0" iPhone 5S, I bet you everyone would be buying the 4.5" phone and the 4.0" phone would be sitting in stores with very poor sales numbers. Most people will buy the best they can with their 2 year upgrade.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 17:12

26. Professor (Posts: 223; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)

I agree 200% with Doakie statement of "If Apple released a 4.5" iPhone 5S and a 4.0" iPhone 5S, I bet you everyone would be buying the 4.5" phone and the 4.0" phone would be sitting in stores with very poor sales numbers. Most people will buy the best they can with their 2 year upgrade".

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:43 1

5. Alex123 (Posts: 241; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)

I think the article is biased. Android makes a smaller phone because they knows than some people cannot afford to buy the flagship one not because they see Apple's selling well. On the other hand, App's product does not sell well everywhere in the world just for some country like USA (Because USA they support their local product). I don't hate Iphone but i prefer the screen starts from 4.3 inch up not such small found on Iphone. I don't know who want more than "mini"as this article saying.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:50 1

6. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Android "mini" phones are still larger than the iPhone. For me, it's a 4.3" display minimum, preferably 4.5" without on screen buttons.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:35 1

22. joey_sfb (Posts: 6632; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

I like the physical note 3 home. back and option button.

No point increase 0.2 screen size but that area is lock to home and back onscreen buttons.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 02:55

7. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Just because Apple loyals are buying it, it doesn't mean they are satisfied with 4". It's insane how many convert to large screen phones, and those who go back usually don't have problem with Android/Lumia size, but lag and ecosystem issues. Sales show that the overwhelming majority prefers 4,5"+ and we won't consider an iPhone unless it adapts to market demand.

Gimme a 4,8"-5" iPhone 6 and I'll take a good look!

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 07:09

12. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Agreed. It would be a great test if Apple made a 5" screen and a 4" screen phone at the same time, then analyze which one sells better. I'm willing to bet we all know what the results would be.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 07:34 3

13. Finalflash (Posts: 3536; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

The whole strategy for most Android manufacturers have been wrong concerning smaller screen. They automatically dumb down the hardware thinking people who want a smaller phone want mid range specs. Sony has done it right and will likely reap the rewards (hopefully). They have delivered a high end phone in a smaller package. Up until now, Apple was the only one doing that and so they had a monopoly in that market. Within the next year, expect all other Android OEMs to follow Sony's step here and the market will then heat up for high end specs in all sizes. Likely Apple going to the large phone segment might also heat up that section as well.

Like I said before, the Android hardware race is dying down, the focus is now turning to software. Right now most OEMs are focusing on delivering just small features here and there with some big ones. Soon it will become a package race, where they will fight to deliver the best overall experience software wise, which will hopefully also make them fight to release updates sooner with better outcomes.

Not to hate on the Apple guys, but they compete a bit too slowly and the only thing pushing them forward are stock holders (the need to make more money, not deliver better value).Where as in the Android side we have both things pushing them, money through competition. So even if Apple enters the large phone market, they will be eclipsed by Android there as well unless they start seriously competing with the Android crowd on everything (especially since they are behind in that segment). Plus they will have a very hard time adapting to that segment. So far they have babied their developers by delivering a uniform spec sheet for all their devices as much as possible. And as the recent article here


states, those new screen sizes and possibly new resolutions will yield serious problems. They have 2 aspect ratios right now which is possibly the worst type of fragmentation when it comes to screens. The iPhone 5/5s/5c has 16:9 while the rest have 4:3. Android has been tough for developers from the start and so it just gets easier. Apple as they get more complex will be a tough climb for those that enjoyed the easy ride too much. I have high hopes for Apple's next year (as everyone always does apparently) and they definitely need to deliver.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 08:52

17. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Good points. With most things, there's an ebb and flow that often repeats, or a pendulum mindset that runs strong before swinging back the opposite way. I think we're starting to see that with smart phones in both sizes and software. Miniaturization started being replaced with "make it bigger" and we're in the Phablet mode right now. Could smart watches swing it back towards miniaturization? It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out.

Regardless, size should never dictate quality or capability. Flagships don't have to be big, hopefully that does catch on.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 07:35

14. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

The problem with your view is it doesn't reflect reality.

Not only are Apple loyals buying the 4", but you also got a huge population of android users who got tired of android OS and jumped ship. It was the same thing with Blackberry users jumping to the then 3.5" iPhones.

Lastly, Apple has no problem selling all the 4" iPhones 5s and 5c it makes -- in contrast, you have these android handsets collecting dusts and needing massive marketing spend to move the dated android products.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:01 1

19. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Apple loyals are buying the 4" because that's all Apple has to offer. Unfortunately it's all speculation, but if Apple was to release handsets with size variety like Android does, you'd see the same thing happening there. There's been people leave Apple for Android because of the small screen sizes that Apple refuses to change. Huge populations of Android users jumping ship? You'll have to prove that, stats don't reflect that point of view. It happens on both sides but I wouldn't make the claim that either are huge populations.

Actually, Apple isn't selling the 5C very well. As for small Android handsets collecting dust, that's a very American point of view. Flagships dominate sales in America, but in other world markets it's more diversified.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:31 1

24. HouTexan (Posts: 447; Member since: 08 Jan 2012)

Everything he says is overwhelmingly biased towards Apple, no matter how outlandish or exaggerated it may sound.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 17:21

27. Professor (Posts: 223; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)

My son and his wife had iphones practically since they were invented. 3, 4s, 5, and now 5s. But everytime he looks at a video in the screen of my phone he mentions how beautiful it is and wishes his iphone had a bigger screen... And I know they are not the only ones wishing their iphones had a bigger screen...

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 03:28

8. skyline88 (Posts: 612; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)

HTC One Mini is not available in my country, and the "big" One is not selling well, not as good as One X, Butterfly. as for the S4 Mini, currently in my country, the price is exactly same as S3 16GB (3G version).

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 04:46 1

9. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

iPhones buyers have no choice but a 4" screen only but others have many choices so they'll choose whatever they want.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 04:54 1

10. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)

apple buyers always satisfied whatever apple launch

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 05:59 1

11. darkkjedii (Posts: 25095; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Not true, but over all the product is great. Personally I wouldn't mind 4.3-4.5.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 07:54 1

16. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

obviously true if they are still selling them. If people were unhappy with there istuff they wouldnt buy it.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:36

23. _PHug_ (Posts: 463; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)

The power of Apple compels them

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 17:25

28. Professor (Posts: 223; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)

The main reason people by iphones is due to their warranty and tech support...

When an iphone damage you just go to any Apple store and they give you a new one, or at least a remanufactured one, no matter if the warranty is expired. Try that with any smartphone, or any other company...

posted on 13 Oct 2013, 09:32

29. Klamba92 (Posts: 210; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)

Actually you could be on to something, as I had a fault with my s3 sent it to Samsung just to get a letter saying they upgraded my software when in fact they downgraded it. And the problem with the phone was with the hardware and not software the phone started cracking from the sides and bottom. Sent it again and got the same thing. My cousin had the same thing with the s4 as it stopped working. They sent letter saying could not fix phone due to serious internal damage when in fact no damage was done to it. Took the battery out and popped it back in and it started working again. This could just be Samsung customer service and not all oems but hate to admit it apple does have one of the best customer services and warranty!

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 12:47 1

25. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

It's sort of true. Remember when for the first 5 iPhones were the perfect size and all those silly fandroids were just compensating for something with bigger phones? Now, do you remember how the iPhone 5 came out and everybody LOVED the larger display? That's a perfect example. I can tell you right now that if the iPhone 5S had a 4.3-4.5" display, I would have gotten one.

Also, remember when the iPhone paled in comparison to Android flagships in terms of specs, but all that mattered to iPhone users was the experience? Now the iPhone 5S is scoring on par or even beating Android flagships across all benchmarks, and pretty much every Apple fanboy out there is bragging about the high performance and 64 bit A7.

The tables have turned now; Android phones are starting to get mini versions, and iPhones are getting bigger. Some Android OEMs are focusing more on the experience rather than specs, and Apple is focusing on performance.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:35

21. _PHug_ (Posts: 463; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)

The title should read that Apple iPhone buyers are satisfied by whatever Apple tells them to be satisfied with

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