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What defines a 'high-end' phone/tablet

0. phoneArena posted on 14 Sep 2012, 06:56

It looks like some users out there aren't really aware of the true meaning of "high-end". We're concerned about this, as voicing wrong opinions can easily mislead other people. We think that's not cool, and wanted to share our view on the matter...

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posted on 14 Sep 2012, 09:07

77. Aeires (unregistered)

So people standing in line for days to get the newest iPhone are satisfied with their current iPhones?

Failed logic on your part, just because someone wants the best and most powerful doesn't mean they aren't satisfied, it just means technology keeps moving forward at a quick pace.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 10:07 1

90. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

You're whacked Wendy. I am satisfied with my Android phone, as are most other droid users. This new iphone is nothing compared to what android phones can do.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 10:27

97. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

Apple has proven time and again that it does not know how to make the phone portion of a smartphone. It is repeatedly rated one of the worst phones in terms of network coverage year in and year out.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:07 5

5. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

So the iphone5 is not high end because they are selling it at a priceof $199. The only reason this article was written was because apple failed to launch an amazing groundbreaking device...again, and now you are trying to justify it PA.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:08 2

6. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

Great article!

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:09 10

7. lsguntu (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

Why similar article did not come up when Nokia lumia 920 was released and everyone said there is NO quadcore?

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:10 3

9. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

You're right about that.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:14 6

10. raunak (Posts: 507; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)

you're right. imagine if the iphone 5 would have been as feature rich as lumia 920, many would have called it the most amazing device in recent years.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:17 6

14. Ray.S (Posts: 388; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)

I have mentioned many times that having dual-core CPUs in Windows Phones (including the Nokia Lumias) shouldn't be seen as a drawback, because they don't really need super-powerful quad-core chipsets. They already run perfectly smooth.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:19 4

18. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

Thanks Ray. That's what I wanted to hear.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:26 2

26. prakesh (Posts: 92; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)

what if in the near future your beloved company used quadcore.

like they said bout more that 3.5 inch for a smartphone is ridicilous

and they would never create a 7" ipad?

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 11:12 4

109. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

but you fail to realize and many of you ifans as well, that the reason being why it runs so smooth is becuse it is a "half baked" OS which doesnt require much to run!!

so of course dual core will make it look as smooth as butter, now lets look at android.......it is a full baked cake and the dual core chips in them are still able to power them jus fine, and even smoother with jelly bean!

apple and nokia have a basic function phone and thats why they dont need quad cores......

So once again your phone is over priced for jus a basic operating phone that looks pretty and you guys act like its soo amazing that it runs smooth......of course its gonna run smooth when all its demanding is regular apps and games to run it!

android deserves the real credit for fittin in large batteries in compact phones and chips that make your phone blow past the competition no matter what the size and demand the phone asks of it..............

but fan boys will be fan boys and blind people will continue to walk with a cane........ either wake up or grow up seriously

(in response to post #14)

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:10 3

8. raunak (Posts: 507; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)

i disagree about the ram part. When you really need to run heavy apps in the background, the so called well optimised software can do nothing. I have an ipod touch 4th gen and it laggs horrible because it has only 256 mb ram, while the iphone 4 which has the same software and processor but double the amount of ram and so it runs smoothly.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:14 5

11. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Just because software is written well and it can run on mediocre hardware, doesn't give them the right to charge a premium price for it.

By that logic, Samsung should be charging 2 times for the S3 since ICS runs well on the S2, and by buying an S3, you're not only buying well written software that can run on a phone with yesteryear's technology, you're also paying for the top of the range hardware.

To top that off, both the S3 and iPhone I believe are around the same price, both run smoothly, but the S3 does more and has better hardware, does that mean Samsung should charge more? The biggest gripe to us isn't if it's high end or mid-range, it's that Apple is charging people extra just because "the software is incredibly well written". No, we get what we pay for, and profit margins just shows how much you are actually paying for when you buy an iPhone.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:35 1

32. Hemlocke (unregistered)

"Mediocre hardware"? The first Cortex-A15 phone has "mediocre hardware"? Why don't you also tell us the fairy tale about how much more premium Android build materials are, or how the software is perfect out of the box (We will pretend that XDA doesn't exist to fix your junk software). You are delusional. The "flagship" Android phone on the market (SGS3) has a painted plastic body that MIGHT cost Samsung a nickel, it has the SAME GPU from the previous generation, and it had to be blown up to skateboard size to bump the specs. The iPhone isn't the device that needs defending as "high end," it's all the garbage, "me too" Android phones.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 09:55 3

88. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

If the iPhone 5 didn't need defending, this article wouldn't be here. If the iPhone 5 didn't need defending, there wouldn't be thousands or pictures saying it's the same crap with a different name.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 10:42

100. Hemlocke (unregistered)

It doesn't need defending. The author is just speaking to the main constituency here, which happens to be uneducated Android fanboys. They buy devices that need defending by the manufacturers, as evidenced by the minutiae they spew regarding every spec. Did you see Apple saying "We have the most advanced SoC on any mobile device, an ARM Cortex-A15-based chipset, blah, blah, blah..."? No. Android OEMs lack good design, fully functional ecosystems, and a refined UX, so they have to use fabricated terms like "Nature UI" or throw hard specs. It's the '90s computer wars all over again, and companies still haven't learned that you don't sprint in a race to the bottom. They could learn a lot from Apple.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 10:48 4

101. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

lmao hemlocke you talk utter crap no other way to say it.

you proved his point beautifully that the iphone and apple needs defending with your little misinformed rant

you say about android fanboys yet your prime example of a no nothing ifan blindly defending apple and goin at anything negative towards them

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 14:09

140. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

90s computer war? Gee, I wonder who lost that war and went back into the closet until dead Jobs pulled them out with the iPhone. And having an A15 wouldn't matter for nuts if it's still clocked at 800Mhz due to that poor battery...

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 08:01 3

43. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

The ios only requires around 120mb of ram and doesn't run any background apps, the iPhone is just an app launcher midrange phone no wonder the phone is snappy and faster than the S3, cause its a half-baked OS, and its not LINUX.Where's Android requires over 600mb of ram, and needs to push over 45+ apps and load Flash. Android needs A15 Quad-core to be on par with iP4s.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 12:41

128. SleepingOz (unregistered)

be on par? Seriously?
TROLL, don't comment when you don't know what you're talking about, please!

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:14

12. maryaaadil (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)

Man i kinda agree with it so you mean to say that os experience counts....
Now explian this

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:18 4

17. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

So does it mean that a phone with a 1GHz processor running WP and having a 480*800 pixels screen resolution is better than a Galaxy S2 simply because it doesn't lag? No. Although the overall experience is not just based on hardware, hardware is as essential as the software and a combination of the both is what determines if a phone is high/low or mid-range and not just the user experience alone. One can argue that Android lags when compared to WP7.5 or iOS but the fact that either of them cannot be customized as much as the user wants simply doesn't make iOS/WP better. I'm not talking of WP8 being better than Android simply because it isn't revealed yet. Similarly, since the stock browser and selection of apps in Symbian is terrible doesn't make the 808 a low end phone. Trust me it does work great even on a single-core processor but when I shell $600+ for a device, I expect it to have better hardware than the rivals and not just one aspect of the phone. The iPhone 5 may provide a great user experience on the platform/hardware it runs but because it is just an incremental upgrade over the 4S doesn't cut it for many. We were expecting an innovative phone and not just an increase in the screen size/resolution and a better processor than the 4S. The iPhone 5 is a disappointment because it lacks the wow factor which is offered by the Lumia 920. And whilst more RAM/number of cores.more megapixels don't always equal to a better performance they do tend to make your device a bit more future proof and that's what I expect when I shell $600+ for any device. Yes, the iPhone 5 would be better than any other existing uiPhone but the fact that it isn't as magical as the previous ones (up to the 4 were) has very well diluted the iPhone brand. Yes, WP and iOS do tend to work better than Android at low hardware but I want the hardware to be great and some innovation which'll definitely make the new phone worth buying and bragging about. I'm not telling the iPhone 5 is crap, but when compared to the 920 it simply lacks innovation/magic. And that's the reason I'm more inclined towards the 920 than iPhone 5. I am just trying to say that yes, just hardware or just software doesn't define what a high/low end phone is but its the mix of both coupled with some innovative features that a phone brings to the table is what makes it high/low end.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:19 4

19. iced_heroine (Posts: 29; Member since: 09 Sep 2012)

obviously defending the iphones... i dont know bout others, but i think this blog clearly is bias... he wrote it to defend the iphone....
of course when you say high end,, its obvious that it will take the price range, the specs and the performance...
you cant call a phone a high end device if the specs does not meet the requirments...
and ITS BRAND... since IPHONE IS IPhONE... ITS high end, even though it does not met the requierment to be high end...
for me, its a midrange device,, with a very high price... :D
today, high end phones are gsg3, lumia 920, htc one x, and the motorola maxx hd...
but iphone? nah!!!
luosy phone,.. although i still love it.. :D

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:20 6

21. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

in this post ray is butt hurt because his beloved apple didnt offer anything new.

Fact is Android is High end iphone is not.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:25 9

24. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Its common sense - Android offers true multitasking and is highly feature rich and demands more power. That is why android is high end.

Apple offer no multitasking as such. its a simple basic OS and requires mid range spec.

same with windows

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 08:12

49. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

Well said and true. Android is very heavy resource and power hungry....! i believe even A9 with 8 cores will still kinda lag, either its clocked at 2.0Ghz so each core will run: 1 for the screen. 2 for Android system. 3 for internet. 4 for all the apps. 5 for live wallpapers. 6 for widgets and email and other sync. 7 for games. 8 i don't know...

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:22 3

22. prakesh (Posts: 92; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)

ray so your telling that s3 is a high end smartphone

and iphone 5 is a midrange phone?

ahh now ic

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 07:26 2

27. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 533; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

I am an android fan, and I really dislike Apple but I would still consider the iPhone a top end device. People need to get over the idea that the world revolves around them. Just because someone doesn't like something they seem to have this false belief that everyone else should feel the same, and that every manufacturer should build only the devices they like, or else they will through anonymous abuse at people they don't even know. If you like iOS/Android and you want people to respect your views and choices, how about you do the same and respect other people choices.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 08:08

45. Nookie4u (Posts: 133; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)

Bang! smack dead on the truth, treat others as you want them to treat you.
1+ for you sir! =D

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