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WSJ: Sprint may not have enough unused spectrum for high-quality LTE rollout

0. phoneArena posted on 22 Jul 2012, 18:47

According to the Wall Street Journal, Sprint does not have enough spectrum to build the high quality LTE network that is has started constructing; parts of the Nextel network that the carrier plans on using for LTE won't be ready until 2014 and the final puzzle piece will come from Clearwire, possibly too late for Sprint...

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posted on 26 Jul 2012, 11:45

42. Joshua9007 (Posts: 94; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Around the same time as the 800MHz 5x5 LTE carrier. But clearwire is only launching their TDD-LTE in 31 of their current Wimax markets to start on a total of 5000 sites in 2013, which will not provide complete/blanket coverage. Sprint's plan is to use the Clearwire spectrum as a lower priority compared to their own LTE spectrum, because they will be paying per GB for access.
Also, Sprint will possibly be asking clearwire to deploy additional sites anywhere in the sprint network that they see needs additional capacity. I can see NY and all the other big cities eventually covered wall to wall with Clearwire, as they are economically profitable... while other areas will be at sprint's request

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 19:20 4

8. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

I'm just going to go ahead and say I told you so. I called it when sprint WASTED that 15.5 on the iphone. Everyone said, "oh no, that will turn out to be great". But when you're broke YOU CAN"T DO THAT. AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE LTE TO COMPETE, NOT THE OVERPRICED iPieceofjunk.

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 20:00

12. xcharles718 (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Jul 2012)

This site would give you a better idea on what the Network Vision project is about.

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 20:04 2

13. lsutigers (Posts: 821; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)

LTE deployment is moving along quickly and Sprint is selling iPhones just fine and will continue through this year and next as the new LTE iPhone comes out and Network Vision's upgraded 3G and LTE come online.

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 21:01 1

17. threeline (Posts: 267; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)

Sprint cell service sucks in PHX and I the Galaxy Nexus, great phone, subpar service provider.

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 21:48

18. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)

Sprint will be fine, id rather them take thier time and do it right, then rushing it and giving us Sprint users a crappy build out.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:04

26. speed4evr (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Sprints network vision combined with Clearwires LTE (20x20 channels) will make for a great svc soon enough

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:27

30. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Sprint is utilizing multi-modal tech for its new tower deployments and tower updates, which means one tower with multiple frequencies. The towers will also support both 3G and 4G LTE both. Im not sure where VZW and AT&T stand as far as this technology, but Sprint is building out network improvements that will save them money in the long run because decreasing the number of towers they need WHILE increasing coverage, meaning more new potential customers.

As far as the Iphone deal goes, it will be bad for sprint if the Iphone doesn't at least maintain its current popularitiy if nto get more popular. It will be on Apple if it doesn't sell though, because lack of innovation, like if they decide keeping the 3.5 inch screen is still fine, and if they decide, eh, let's give it another year for LTE. Apple won't have a problem selling to the sheep, but the fence sitters is what it will take for Sprint to sell the amount of phones they need to fulfill their deal, and they want the latest and greatest, but wont go with iphone if the device proves to be incremental improvement like the 4S or has problems like the 4.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:27 2

33. lsutigers (Posts: 821; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)

If you look at Network Vision's "white papers", numerous presentations and independently research what Sprint is doing with NV, it is truly cutting edge. This is brand spankin' new technology and Sprint is leveraging the advantages to increase speed, coverage, capacity and flexibility. This will also help Sprint reduce their roaming agreements and cell site overhead once iDEN is fully decommissioned. This upgrade is of unprecedented scope and magnitude, and unlike anything else any other carrier has done. They are basically re-building their networks from the ground up in 2 years with additional LTE Advanced deployment after that. I believe this move will pay off for Sprint, the network was designed to support unlimited data and will be flexible enough to upgrade when the time comes, but for now, they have a lot of capacity.

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 10:43

39. TheRequiem (Posts: 245; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)

This statement is true and factual.

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 03:37

36. Forsaken77 (Posts: 553; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)

I am curious to know how many more subs sprint has than tmobile. They must be close. And when they shut down Nextel, which is alot of business customers, they'll lose alot more subs. At this point in time, I would think tmobile would be crushing sprint. Tmobile is cheaper, has better speed for data, and has comparable coverage. As far as the public knows, they both have unlimited data. So how is sprint ahead of tmobile?

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 10:41

38. TheRequiem (Posts: 245; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)

They are over 20 million subs less then Sprint... nowhere close. Sprint has also said migration to Sprint DCS from Nextel is "surpassing expecations", which means they aren't losing as much as they thought. T-Mobile and Sprint are direct competitors on price and Sprint has LTE, T-mobile does not... which makes them faster. Your out of the loop...

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 10:39 1

37. TheRequiem (Posts: 245; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)

There are multiple issues and corrections needed to this false article. Sprint did not lose $800+ million, they lost $212 million, this is a vast error that needs to be corrected. Also, Sprint lost 300,000+ customers (other carriers WAY more), but they had a net add of over a million... seriously WSJ? WSJ and the press in general have a way of manipulating numbers to look bad. I honestly see Sprint doing VERY WELL in a few years and I dont see them losing many custoemrs, they still have the cheapest iPhone. A rapid rollout of a little over a year to complete a nationwide LTE rollout is much faster then Verizon and AT&T and will result in little departure of subs. I mean, hell, they will have half the network complete this year alone!!

Sprint will actually have a major advantage for spectrum over AT&T and Verizon. Sprint is the only one who has a 2.5ghz channel being operated by Clearwire in major metropolitan area's that will have channels wide enough (20x20) to support the growth of LTE in the future, not to mention the 5x5 band on 1.9 and 10x10 on 800 it will operate. This puts them at a direct advantage over their competitors in about a years time. Also, Dan Hess and Co have also stated the stransfer of 800mhz spectrum from iden to 4G LTE Advance will happen before the end of 2013, not 2014 as the article states. All in all, there are multiple incorrect statements and false claims to this article and it's sources base.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 17:48

40. Joshua9007 (Posts: 94; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

dude, you have a lot of the right facts, but it is not going to be a 10x10MHz carrier in in the 800MHz band. They only have 14MHz of total spectrum in the band since they reorganized the band for public safety, that's why they got the 10MHz G block in the PCS band. Other than that, good stuff man.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 23:48

43. speed4evr (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

In areas where they freed up enough of the 800 spectrum they will starting using it before 2012 is over and all sprint devices sold since the HTC Evo 3D support the new 800 frequency but not 800 on LTE til 2013

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