Verizon pushing out new data plans for Enhanced Multimedia Phones

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24. xmguy

Posts: 38; Member since: Feb 12, 2009

Exactly. Upgrade to a PDA phone because (for now) the unlimited data plan is $29.99. I use atleast 2+ GBs in a month on my Dare streaming music at 192 Kbps and internet radio.

22. Knightlyjay

Posts: 6; Member since: Jul 13, 2009

I think one thing that keeps getting overlooked in the features about this when discussing the premimum and connect plans is the unlimited texting feature being included. The comparison that PhoneArena uses from Basic plan to Connect and Premium is unfair. A person getting the Connect plan would be spending $30 more than a person getting the Basic (Single line), but only $10 more than a person getting a Select plan which includes unlimited texting. Most folks that get a phone and that are going to want data will want the texting feature added to it as well. Please remember that the differences will be about 10$ for most customers of these phones. And if they have a discount (military, state, employer), the difference will be less.

25. cheech4

Posts: 9; Member since: Dec 29, 2008

just another way for Big Red to nickle and dime there customers again, IMO. nothing new here.

29. DonLouie

Posts: 594; Member since: Dec 22, 2008

I say vote with your wallet, they want you to pay $70 for the privilege of a phone. Spend that same amount or less with a discount

33. PapaJay224

Posts: 866; Member since: Feb 08, 2009

"Get The Network Facts Did you know that we've invested more than $50 billion in our network since Verizon Wireless was formed in 2000? That's an average of $5.5 billion each year! Learn more about this investment and get the facts about our largest and most reliable network." This was emailed internally to me this morning. And the data plan is not so bad from my end when you have customer buying phones "they want" and ones they cant afford monthly...If you cant afford the Data DONT USE IT!!!! Buy a RaZR or Something basic...If you want to look cool to your freinds be prepared to pay for it, since when in our entire existance did popularity ever come for FREE? NEVER!

34. trentsinmypants

Posts: 324; Member since: Jan 29, 2009

Wow, I work for VZW and this is news to me.....time to start calling people to ask questions!

35. PapaJay224

Posts: 866; Member since: Feb 08, 2009


48. mkl4466

Posts: 53; Member since: Sep 25, 2008

Papa, get real. We have to remember the first rule of business: Make money. Thats why Verizon and all the other wireless carriers are here. Their goal is to get as much money out of our wallets every month as they can possibly squeeze out of us. They justify it by saying they are providing us with a service. Of course it says in the promo material that these new plans are good for consumers. Do you expect them to come out and say "These new plans will force customers to give us more money"? They can't say it out loud. But thats the bottom line. Its nicer to convince people of something, but if you can't convince them to agree with you, force them instead.

38. DonLouie

Posts: 594; Member since: Dec 22, 2008

Raising the price to own a phone makes it affordable? Papa is the sheep using the company's money spent to justify raising prices but all you employees and fans are always talking about how vzw is always "in the black" so there should be no need to put any improvement cost on the customer. Rationalize it all you want it doesn't add up, a 450 minute Select plan w/the old $15 VCast is cheaper than Connect and even if you add nav it's still less costly than Premium. Sprint and T Mobile still save more money while bringing in less subs and money but you don't see them raising prices and all that yelling wasn't necessary

42. PapaJay224

Posts: 866; Member since: Feb 08, 2009

Um no its not its 10 extra dollars for connect off the slect plan 69.99 for 450 min connect, or you can have 59.99 slect and vcast for 15 which is what? You dumb...nevermind, your right 75.00 is cheaper than 69.99, including Mobile email and unlimited MB's is defenatly more expensive than 15$ Vcast which is only MB and Videos/Music. If you ask me I think Vcast is overated I dont justify that cost because Im honest, it has nothing to do with who I work for, I wasnt stuck in a room a brained washed, but working for this cuompany I have to research all the other providers, and we arent doing anything wrong...We are making it more affordable to own a PHONE THAT HAS DATA, IF YOU DONT WANT THAT F***ING PHONE DONT F***ING BUY IT, WHY EVEN TOUCH IT IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT?

39. mmmpopfanatic

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 29, 2009

It seems like the changes in data plans will be better for some people while others are getting screwed. Anyone on an individual select plan is only gonna be paying $10 more per month for data, which is actually better than the $15 for the vpak. Unfortunately, if you're on the basic plan or a family plan with several lines, it's going to be much more. I'm on a 4 line family select plan, and to upgrade to the connect will be another $40, which I'm gonna have to pay for myself since my parents and brother probably have no use for it. Needless to say, paying $40 instead of $15 is NOT something I'm happy about. HOWEVER (and DON'T quote me on this cuz it's not certain), I talked to a friend who works for Verizon, and he said that if I was already had Vpak that I should be grandfathered into it and wouldn't be affected by such changes. Though keep in mind he had no knowledge of these new changes. If you read the links in the article under the 'Refreshed Vcast Features', it does specifically say that the Vpak would be grandfathered, but most likely is just refering to existing phones, not for when a new phone like the rogue will be activated. I called verizon yesterday and had them add the vpak to my current phone, just in case my friend ends up being right. Worst case, I waste $15 by having it for an extra month.

44. PapaJay224

Posts: 866; Member since: Feb 08, 2009

You only will require to have a data plan on phones RELEASED AFTER A CERTAIN DATE THAT SPECIFY THE REQUIREMENT... This is why everyone hates Verizon, your all so quik to judge but no one actually understands, and you have to leave it to us rougue reps who are fotunate enough to pop in here and correct the wrongs so people understand....CALL YOUR PROVIDER OR STOP READING PROPAGANDA!

47. mkl4466

Posts: 53; Member since: Sep 25, 2008

On a connect family plan the primary line pays $10 more than it would on a select plan, and gets unlimited web and mobile email. The secondary lines can either be considered "select secondary" for 9.99 per month, or "connect secondary" for 19.99 per month. This way all the secondary lines can choose to either have data or not. So if your parents make your line the primary line you can be a connect line for $10, vs. having Vcast for $15. You won't get the video clips, but if your phone has flash support you can watch youtube, or hopefully HULU, if its real flash, so who needs Vcast video anyway. and connect includes mobile email. And if you REALLY want Vcast video clips instead of watching youtube, Verizon will sell you a $10/month video on demand feature. The only problem with these kinds of plans is they pretty much assume that anyone who wants unlimited web ALSO wants unlimited text. For most customers thats true, but not all. Some people, especially older folks who are computer savvy and want a web capable device, might like an option for web without having to pay for unlimited text. Tmobile and ATT both have that. The only options for unlimited web on one of these "enhanced multimedia" phones are through a connect or premium plan, which includes unlimited text. If you have a basic plan, and you add a data option, its not unlimited web. Verizon doesn't like to give you unlimited data, because they are afraid of people actually using it too much and taking up too much spectrum. Thats why the aircards changed a while back from unlimited to 5 GBs. I don't really see the value in a 19.99 feature with only 75 MB. thats just a plan to get you to switch up to the connect plan after your next bill is ridiculously high from overage, like the 39.99 aircard plan. They only have that because some people will buy at a lower rate because they are cheapskates and don't think they should have to have a higher plan, but then after one month they see the overage so they switch to the plan they should have gotten in the first place. Its bait and switch tactic. It seems to me Verizon is forcing these plans because 1. they want to increase their average revenue per user, and 2. with their plans already the most expensive in wireless, the only way to get people to spend more money each month than they already do is to force them to add a feature plan in order to use the cool new phones. Verizon knows that customers don't come in asking for data, they come in asking for cool phones. People don't want to pay for data, and most people that really use data and are willing to pay for it don't want to use an "enhanced multimedia" phone. They use a blackberry or a palm or a windows mobile device. Enhanced multimedia phones and data features exist because everyone cancels their vcast after the free month is over and then they see it on the bill and call in and complain. So if you make it a requirement, people can't cancel it. Tmobile is now doing the same thing with REQ codes on their features, so customers can't get a discount on a new phone contingent upon adding a feature then call in and cancel the feature.

40. DonLouie

Posts: 594; Member since: Dec 22, 2008

That $10 versus $15 is only giving 25mb of data, according to what's posted the two ways to get unlimited are either a Connect or Premium plan. Verizon is not using any lube

41. mmmpopfanatic

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 29, 2009

The connect plan is what I'm referring to that would be $10 more for certain people.

43. PapaJay224

Posts: 866; Member since: Feb 08, 2009

Don your a suck an idiot, I seriously think you come in and post stuff just to piss people off. Would you buy a Ferrari just because you had $100,000? NO! because if it breaks you cant afford the parts to fix it, It costs 2500 dollars just to pay someone to replace the battery, can you imagine replaceing the cost of an oil change or a tune up? Just because you can afford the cost of the product doesnt mean you can afford the cost to maintain it, these are advanced devices and are advertised that way, How can you hate the provider for making a phone for people who can afford it? Are you going to get mad at everyone that doesnt make something the way you want? If you want a phone w/ out data cost, we have that for you..But if you want an advanced phone (Ferrari) you are told upfront the cost associated with that device...Dont be mad at the people setting the bar, be mad at the fact your not tall enough to reach it.

45. DonLouie

Posts: 594; Member since: Dec 22, 2008

You can't be serious, comparing a phone to a car? While I will admit fault on pricing, silly me to think serial gouger vzw would only charge $10 extra for the bundle, that still doesn't justify what's happening. Papa, you keep skipping over the fact that unlimited data is only on the Connect and Premium plans and just because VCast wasn't for you means that is how it applies to all. Sprint has a messaging plan $10 cheaper than vzw and thier data plan is still $15 and you can use that on any phone besides the Instincts, RIM's and Pre, I'm really anxious to see how vzw subs that waited on the Pre are going to feel when they realize how the bill will increase

46. DonLouie

Posts: 594; Member since: Dec 22, 2008

Papa, you said everyone doesn't need all the add ons in the other story about the new phones, you do realize you have 3 options for UNLIMITED data with Sprint. There's a $15 Basic with some tv and radio, $25 Data Premier with lots of tv/radio and nav which brings me to the Everything plans. All those plans have UNLIMITED data and still trump anything compared to vzw and there are only three phones that have a mandatory plan that is still cheaper.

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