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Tizen Mobile Lite is in the works, support for lower spec smartphones

0. phoneArena posted on 11 Nov 2013, 00:56

Tizen is a platform that holds quite a bit of interest even though it could be argued at this point that it is...

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posted on 11 Nov 2013, 01:03 6

1. GeekMovement (unregistered)

If it's a smooth and functional OS, I'd definitely be willing to give it a go.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 01:36 2

3. XaErO (Posts: 333; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)

I agree .. If it is Fast, Smooth, Buttery and Flexible n Customizable like android then People will definitely want to try it out.

Although the major concern will be - will it have the huge apps repository like Android or iOS has ?? .. I heard that Tizen can run apps which are designed for Android .. but not sure though ..

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 04:27 2

6. boosook (Posts: 1442; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

Why? Android comes with Google integration, which is its major selling point. Android can run on 512MB devices without a "Lite" version (Lite usually means that something is missing, which usually means there's something you can do in the full version that you can't do in the lite version) and from version 4.4 it will probably run with minimal lags. Android has millions of applications, it's stable and backed by an incredible infrastructure (just think at the realtime online multiplayer of Google Play...).
Now, Samsung is making an Android copy, where the UI is a copy of the Touchwiz interface, and this means it also copies many elements of Android.
Why should people want to use Tizen?
The truth is that an OS spreads when it has something innovative to offer. iOS changed the way we use our mobile devices, and Android extended the iOS paradigm to every other brand. That's why those two systems became the leading mobile OS, and that's why Windows Phone is struggling: they came late and didn't add anything really worth. And that's why Tizen is useless as well: it's simply a copy of Android on Samsung phones.
Samsung is thinking: since we sell like 50 to 90% of Android phones, people will buy them even if we replace the OS. This is the way they're thinking to make people use Tizen.
Samsung can copy very well, because they can build the hardware very well. But they're not so good when it comes to innovation. Android will be replaced one day, in 10-20 years maybe, but it will be because something *truly* new and innovative will appear. Not a bad copy like Tizen.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 05:40 2

7. FYoung (Posts: 42; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)

"Why?" In short, because Samsung envies Apple's profit margins. What consumers want is secondary.

Samsung attributes Apple's profits to the fact that Apple has a proprietary hardware and operating system that it can price at a premium because of its loyal fans.

Samsung already has some proprietary hardware, but to reach Apple's exalted position, it needs proprietary software too. It can't match Apple's profits as long as its competitors can undercut it with the same OS and apps that Samsung does.

So, Samsung is working frantically to build up its market share and brand so that, once it replaces Android with Tizen on its existing and future hardware, Tizen will immediately become so prevalent that developers will have no choice but to develop apps for it, and consumers will be confident enough of the Samsung brand to adopt its proprietary ecosysem.

Google sees this as a threat. So, Google in turn is gradually replacing Android's open components with Google's own proprietary apps, so that Google too can develop its own hardware and software and loyal fans.

If this were to continue, there would be only four cellphone companies: Apple, Samsung-Intel, Google-Motorola and Nokia-MS, each with its own proprietary OS. All the world's smartphone companies would need to license one of these four ecosystems.

Of course, the Chinese companies who will shortly sell the majority of the world's smartphones may well chafe at this new order and have their own contrary ambitions.

For all these manufacturers, what the consumers want is secondary. what the consumers will get is more choice at a somewhat higher price than would otherwise be the case because of the duplicated effort and loss of efficiencies of scale. However, the smartphone industry is so huge that efficiencies of scale may still be possible despite a divided marketplace.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 08:52 2

9. Finalflash (Posts: 3535; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

No, they have Apple's profits and then some, they just got suckered into making their own OS as a hedge against Google by Intel which realizes that their WINTEL monopoly is dying and fast. Now you have this, by a company that is known for software that isn't exactly good. If Apple had such a nightmare with iOS 7, imagine the crap that will come up on public release of Tizen. I wish them good luck because they are wasting their resources on too many different things now with no focus. Oh well, everyone learns the hard way, just like Sony did, IBM did and MS as well.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 09:56 1

10. lyndon420 (Posts: 5017; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

I agree. I'm happy to see that Google is clamping down a bit tighter with Android. I'm hoping they create a similar walled garden like apple has. Apple shares none of its software with others for example, and I think Google/Android is big enough now that they could probably stop porting their apps over to other platforms and just start supporting their own platform/brand loyalists. No one complains that they can't get 'apple maps' on their 'non-apple' device...so it would be nice if Google only paid attention to their Android users when it comes to apps and updates. Besides...Google has web-based versions of their apps which should be good enough for everyone else, especially when they have no desire to support the Android platform entirely.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 01:15 6

2. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)

looks like someone got fed up being tied down to Google's services

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 10:10 1

11. lyndon420 (Posts: 5017; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

How exactly are we tied down to anything related to Google? I love customization, and the choices that inherently follows the Android platform. Google's services are top notch, constantly updated, does everything I could want (and more), and its free to use (i haven't had to pay Google a dime in 6 years since I jumped onto Android (heck...I even payed $0 for for my first 2 Android phones-when they were the only 2 available at the time - the HTC Dream and HTC Magic)

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 20:03

13. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)

OMG. Stop buiding intrigues between Google and Samsung,

Samsung is NOT GOING TO LEAVE Android, morons. Google don't care who dominate Android market. And even can't do anything to Samsung (or whoever using Android).
Samsung just have the money and power now, to make OS the way they want. Tizen is meant to be "one for all" OS . To fit on PC and smartphones as well. Let them try it iBoys. Give them a chance.
Do not be fooled by the term "lite" . They will try it on low end smartfones, just to experiment the functions on public for chep market. They dont wanna start with high-end devices, If few year there will be not "lite" version anymore. This is not RT concept.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 01:56 1

4. Jklaz (Posts: 159; Member since: 01 Jul 2013)

At this point in the game the only thing thay frustrates me is that android phones are still having to jump through hoops on Verizon. If Samsung ever does fully back Tizen hopefully they would muscle Verizon intro allowing updates like Apple

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 06:21 1

8. AJtheAndroid (Posts: 42; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)

Samsung, updates, and verizon in the same sentence... *gasp*

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 03:19 1

5. tacarat (Posts: 805; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)

With those requirements, even if unbloated by crapware and bad code. Are we talking a high end car or moped?

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 13:06

12. BryanVella (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)

Android is getting better and better..faster and hopefully by time, the lags wil be improved and solved...and well..smooth. The v4.4 aready shows, it doesnt lag unless its using loads of apps together. I personally dont think that another OS is needed but surely it will attract many people..as the audience love to see when smth is out. i guess, Tizen can grow..but surely not as Android. Android is powerful....and yes agree with these comments. Android should stop allowing other companies to use its software freely. Too many brands are based on android now. Many, some can even grow on this software, Tizen. Waiting for its leaks. people love news.

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