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The iPhone X is "the iPhone of the future". Cool. Here are 4 things that would've made it better

0. phoneArena posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:40

The iPhone X is a beautiful device, for sure. But let's be fair here, after all the bezel-less phones we've seen this year, it's hardly mind-blowing. So, it's up to the X to wow us with features that will leave the competition in the dust, or at least ones that would make our jaws pop for a minute or two. That's not a hard ask for a $999 phone, is it?

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posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:43 12

1. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1397; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


Apple still playing catch up... Might take a break from them this year... The X left me wanting more...

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:47 4

4. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)


Everyone has been playing catch up in the smartphone industry, bruh.

Qualcomm and Samsung are playing catch up to Apple's A11 in the chipset department, no?

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:49 3

6. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)


And by A11, I'm referring to the CPU side of it, as Qualcomm still rules the GPU game.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:57 2

8. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


A11 GPU seems like it'll comfortably beat the S835 GPU. We will have to see how good or bad the A11 GPU thermal throttles.

But not even S845 will surpass the A11 in CPU performance. A75 cores(that is going in the S845 as next gen Kryo cores) are not gonna cut it for next year

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 02:56 1

24. Back_from_beyond (Posts: 169; Member since: 04 Sep 2015)


You do understand why the A11 has two ridiculously overpowered cores right? Their sole purpose is to load apps really fast, then offload them to the smaller cores. Why you ask? To compensate for iOS hibernates and caches apps once you switch to another.

It was Apple's solution to one of iOS' shortcomings, it's something you still notice on older iPhone models, loadtimes when switching apps. Where Android opts to leave apps resident in RAM memory, for quicker accessibility, iOS hibernates and caches them and has to reload them each time, only a few apps are exempt from this in iOS. It meant that switching between apps frequently allowed Android users to more quickly return to using them than iOS users. Apple studies user data in depth and they know most people rarely use an app for longer than 2-3 mins at a time and switch between apps a lot, so to reduce those load times without fundamentally altering how iOS works, they had to come up with something that would work for them.

That's why Apple has those two super cores, loading apps as fast as possible. They obviously will come with a serious drawback, a significantly higher power use than the small cores, probably 10 times higher. Odds are the smaller cores barely touch 1500 in Geekbench single core, that's why Apple opted to cluster 4 this time around, so they could offload even more demanding apps to those lesser cores once they've been loaded, for power efficiency reasons.

I will agree with you that the Snapdragon 845 probably won't beat the A11. Reason behind that is Qualcomm probably doesn't really feel the heat from other SoC vendors for Android phones. The only ones that come close are Samsung's Exynos and Hisilicon's Kirin. The Snapdragon 835 was merely an 820 upgraded to an octacore design and slight improvements to other fields. It was by no means a new design and I'm not expecting the 845 to beat the A11 in single core performance either. Rumors have it though that it does top 2600 in Geekbench single core so it'll be a fair improvement over the 835, which hardly ever seems to beat 2000. If it's an octacore design again, with 4 cores topping 2600 and 4 smaller cores around 1500, it'll beat the A11 in multicore at least. It'll make for a plenty fast SoC, enough to rival it at least where it counts.

The fundamental difference however remains that the Snapdragon 845 is meant to be widely accessible, whereas the A11 is solely for Apple's latest iPhones. Their aims are completely different, designed with completely different applications, the A11 is highly specialized solely for the iPhone, the Snapdragon 845 genericly for a wide variety of devices and platforms. For Qualcomm it simply wouldn't make sense to create such a highly specialized SoC, unless for one very specific client. They'll obviously go with what makes the most money, that's what they do.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 07:55

28. thxultra (Posts: 254; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


The A11 chip is in my opinion the biggest improvement in the iphone X. This processor is a huge step up. Looking forward to seeing what they do with it.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:11 2

11. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1397; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


A11 is nice, I'll give it that much... But it doesn't have to do much, the A series is being upgraded every year for nothing. We can sit here are say Qual, and Sammy are playing catch up but in actuality they really aren't. I would love to see the a 835 with 6gb of ram in a iphone and a A11 in a Note 8... Lets see who comes out on top of that benchmark...

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:21

15. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)


"I would love to see the a 835 with 6gb of ram in a iphone and a A11 in a Note 8... Lets see who comes out on top of that benchmark..."

That's partly why cross-platform benchmarks ain't my thing.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 20:15

22. NoToFanboys (Posts: 3149; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


When you say something good about Samsung, you're a Samsung shill blind fanboy, now that you're complementing the A11, those who bash you are being silent. LOL
People can't decide, no?

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:07 6

9. darkkjedii (Posts: 25633; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I was like...that's it.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:44

2. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)


Yeah, the iPhone of the future, isn't it quite obvious?

It gonna smash records, I suppose.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:45 4

3. surethom (Posts: 1000; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)


2018 will the the year of the Fingerprints under glass Samsung s9 & LG G7 will will have it. So will Apple this time next year pity it was not ready for Apple this year.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:08

10. BLUEBLASTER (Posts: 431; Member since: 23 Feb 2014)


Yeah that's what I'm waiting for. Plus all the iPhones will probably come with OLED screens and no bezels.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 18:19

18. Lumberjack (Posts: 258; Member since: 04 May 2017)


Yesterday I read an article that says Microsoft has rights on screen as FPS...

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:49 5

5. Furkan (Posts: 142; Member since: 25 Feb 2017)


Hifi,
Hifi audio recording,
Headphone jack

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 20:05 2

21. ibend (banned) (Posts: 6747; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


- no camera hump
- USB type-C
- fast wireless charging
- 2k screen
bonus:
- on screen FPscanner
- 10-feet wireless charging

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 16:54

7. darkkjedii (Posts: 25633; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Still quite a bit of bezel, and none of what I wanted in it. This is a nice device, and a definite pass. What a letdown.

I can't believe it got a 5.8 inch screen, and no Pencil support at least.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 04:05

26. P-YWS (Posts: 103; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


No split-screen, no 3.5mm universal head-phone jack, no USB-C connector so that Apple can continue to milk money out of royalty on every lightning peripheral, no finger-print sensor as back-up to the face sensor, no dual-SIM neither, and true to the form of Apple, no uSD card slot so that Apple can make more profit by forcing customer to jump to the 256-GByte version, no ...

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 16:53

30. darkkjedii (Posts: 25633; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Eyes wide open bro. The flocks getting flocked.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:17 1

12. HansP (Posts: 215; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)


Headphone jack.
Headphone jack.
Headphone jack.
Especially in this day and age when we see hackers focusing on bluetooth exploits, anyone slightly security conscious will want a secure headphone connection.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:19

13. jjface (Posts: 66; Member since: 07 Jun 2017)


So you wanted a note 8 with ios then

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:19

14. Macready (Posts: 1537; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


We all know that manufacturer renders are misleading, but the actual bezel is like twice the size of the one in the render of the X. See at 6 seconds into this video for example:
https://youtu.be/ZCQuasiJgYM?t=6s

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 04:07

27. P-YWS (Posts: 103; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Apple is ripping consumers with the same thick bezels and low resolution (750 x 1344 for $699 iPhone8!) as the yesteryears' iPhone6/6s/7.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:34 3

16. jellmoo (Posts: 2117; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


Yes. The problem with it is the lack of colours. Not the ridiculous price, not the highlight of "animojis", not the fact that the face ID didn't work on stage, not the ridiculous notch on the top... The problem is a lack of colours...

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 17:50

17. underwood2012 (Posts: 56; Member since: 12 Sep 2009)


Black & white have been color options since iPhone 3G, not iPhone 4.

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 18:19

19. Lumberjack (Posts: 258; Member since: 04 May 2017)


No cut screen.
IP68
No cam bump

posted on 12 Sep 2017, 18:23

20. fyahking (Posts: 1036; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)


Yawn!!!

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 01:03

23. Ahsanzafar (Posts: 21; Member since: 07 Jun 2015)


i loved iphone x but gold color in iphone 8 took my breathe away.. how a phone can be this beautiful i wonder

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 03:21

25. TechDork (Posts: 324; Member since: 10 May 2010)


I just want them to give me more color options. I mean, what's wrong with a really sleek slate blue option? Geez.

posted on 13 Sep 2017, 08:23

29. Rocket (Posts: 470; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


Dropped a super premium phone? where's that super premium phone? are you talking about itrash X PA?

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