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The browser wars have a new winner after major updates to platforms

0. phoneArena posted on 21 Jun 2011, 09:35

Just a couple of months ago, Microsoft bragged with the performance of its IE9 browser after it blew competition out of the water in a browser benchmark designed by Redmond itself...

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posted on 21 Jun 2011, 23:50

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

The iPhone was always listed as a smartphone. It has a more powerful OS than RIM, Microsoft and Palm. The only one that can compete is android. So to you only android is a smartphone I guess?? Too stripped down? Since when is simple and easy to use bad? The only down side to the app store is not being able to get hacked apps for free. The advantage is you don't get s**tty corrupt software after a while which means no hard resets and buggy phones.

You're full on trolling now with questions such as what's the difference between original iPhone and iPhone 4. Try everything. Idiotic comments from you today.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 02:57 1

56. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

C'mon taco, you've been doing really good lately but you're starting to revert back to your old ways. Stay with me, man!

I know it sounds bad coming from an Android user, but the iphone is not a true smartphone and i am not the only one who feels that way. Here are a few articles from Engadet and a few other tech sites, since you don't want to hear it from me.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-n ot-a-smartphone/

http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/26/analysts-think-iph one-is-not-a-smartphone/

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/01/ 27/apple_iphone_is_not_a_smartphone

And no, I don't think Android is the only smartphone out. Although iOS has a lot of the same functions as a smartphone, the iPhone surely doesn't feel like one. Smartphones are a marriage between PDA's (Personal Digital Assistants) and cellphones. A mini computer that mapped out you entire day, hour by hour and alerted you to every email, fax, task, calendar, to do list, etc, etc. But it was all on the homescreen where you can see it all in a glance, notifications and all! It was truly a Personal Digital Assistant. Android, WebOS, PalmOS, Blackberry, Windows Mobile (Not sure about WP7 yet.) all give me the "At a glance" view of my day if I want it too. But with the iPhone, you have to locate and open the app for all those different things. That doesn't make it bad, just not what I think of when I hear "smartphone". When I think of my old LG Dare, I think of blocks!!! And that's what I see on every single iPhone I have ever come into contact with. Absolutely NO customization what-so-ever!

Dude, I'm nobody's troll or fanboy. I'm a guy who loves technology of all kinds, even Apple technology. I have no reason to hate on iOS or the iphone. When its coming from me, it's the truth, not something I though up just to make someone or something look bad. I tell it like it is, even if its something about my preferred os, Android and you know that! You only feel my comments were idiotic because they were true, and how does that saying go??? The truth hurts.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 08:44 1

59. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)

A jailbroken iPhone is a smartphone: you can do what you want with it, change settings, functionality, go past the features outlined by Apple... Basically, you can make it behave the way you want it to for you: make it behave smartly...

An iPhone is a feature phone: you can only get the features that Apple allows [via integrated functionality and the features in apps in the app store]. It is limited to that set of features, therefore it is a feature phone regardless of how many features it has...

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 08:38 1

58. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)

They push the envelope when it comes to design, not specs. I know it is a gray area, but I think specs like multitouch came as a natural result of design philosophy. Apple has done this better than most, then thier marketing ran with it.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 11:39 1

64. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

+1 corps. I'm still not even sure about a jail broken iphone being a smartphone, but I am willing to give on that one. You can definently get apps from other sources so that's good enough for me. But jail breaking voids the warranty and that just doesn't seem right.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:46

67. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)

+1, I agree that definition is still problematic, but it was as close as I could come without getting into passive vs active software updates and required vs optional...

Your mention of sideloading is also spot on since sideloading allows you to make the phone do what you want it to instead of being a passive clock of manufacturer/carrier code.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 11:49 4

12. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)

Yes it scored a whooping 31fps! Amazing! Oh wait, does it run flash? Of course it will run at a higher framerate bastards because it doesn't support flash for goodness sake!

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 13:43 2

18. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

went a little overboard there...

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 20:07 4

43. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)

Yeah I admit I went overboard with this one. I just can't take the biased articles anymore. It's too much.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 13:41

65. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

lol, it got edited. xD

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 11:59 2

13. mfrapp20 (Posts: 14; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)

There's way too many variables in testing speed, and this article explained none of them. I hate how PhoneArena can't even do their own research, and write their own articles. They just steal all of their news articles from other websites. Plus, they're so biased towards iOS. Mobile Safari does not run flash, so it should not be compared to browsers that do, unless the flash capability was turned of during the test

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 12:19 2

14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

A dark day for fandroid lapdogs. I didn't see you idiots complaining when android was winning as the faster browser. It's impressive that a software update is doing this well on an year old hardware.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 13:48 2

19. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

most of us have been aware that Safari is smoother than most Android phone browsers but it didn't budge our resolve to have a phone that can load Flash content as opposed to only having a slightly smoother experience.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 15:25 1

24. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Hahahaha, and is it Apple's fault that they opted out flash so that their devices can run smoother? Goodness. Flash is a dying platform. The only reason why it's still there is because google and android users are clinging to it really strongly so that they would have something that iOS don't have (natively), lol. Btw, flash videos run smoothly on my iOS devices via skyfire :)

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 16:48

31. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Flash isnt a dying platform, the only reason HTML5 has any ground at all is because of the Iphone, if it wasnt for that Flash would still be the only real choice for web based apps.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 18:59 1

38. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

HTML5 is the standard that adobe has been trying to stop everyone from realizing that because it will kill them. Just like cassette tapes and vhs tape manufacturers used to hate the development of cd and dvd's, lol. It's time for flash to say goodbye, but thanks to android users and google, it will stay a little while longer and advancement and development will be a little slower because of your pride :)

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 18:38 3

34. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

They opted out of flash so you couldn't side load any apps without paying them their cut. If the iPhone had flash, you could go to different flash based sites, play games or download your own and Apple wasn't going to let that happen. But I'm suprised you think so little of iOS to think that a little thing like flash could slow it down.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 19:03

39. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Oh ok, so you probably didn't know that flash causes a lot of performance issues on smartphones, and vulnerability issues as well. And you would rather stick with a 3rd party plug-in, than a web standard html5. You probably think that Apple is just making those flash issues stories up huh?

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 19:05

40. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Not to mention that OS updates could be delayed due to adobe not updating their flash versions yet. So android users would rather stall just because of adobe flash, than just adopt a standard html5. It's called PRIDE.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 22:05 2

49. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Just in case you weren't aware, Android is already HTML5 compatible so i'm not sure what stalling you are referring to. I've already explained to you several times why Apple didnt include flash, but you dont want to beleive Steve would do that to you. But let me ask you this, since HTML5 is a few years away from be the standard, whats the harm in giving you what's available now? I have flash on my Mac. If it's such a security threat, why didnt they exclude it from Snow Leapard or Lion? I'll tell you why! Because it has nothing to do with security, it's about Apple having complete control over iOS! Having complete control of where you can go to get content and getting a bigger chunk of your paycheck well after you have paid for the device! Think about it.

There is still no reason for Apple to not include flash. There are Android devices that load pages just as fast as the iPhone even with flash enabled, so when I hear you say that it slows down devices...what I actually hear is you don't think iOS is up to par with Android.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 08:49 2

60. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)

Preach it Whateverman!
Its time people woke up and stopped beleiving the lies of Antichrist Jobs!

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 16:19 1

28. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

I don't dispute that consumers have a choice and if you need flash android is the way to go. I can say lately almost every sight work in html5 now so while it was limiting in the past now it doesn't really bother me anymore.

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 12:27 6

16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Oh by the way if you actually READ the article it wasn't tested on actual websites with flash. They tested fps which is equal across the board.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 08:49 1

61. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)

Frames per second drawing what code?

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 13:23

17. bossmt_2 (Posts: 457; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)

I'm still curious why fps really matter?

THe sited argument even says the original test was dumb. (well they said unfair)

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 16:19 1

27. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Fps wouldn't really matter to you right now because the iOS outperformed the others.. It would matter a lot to you the moment android offers better fps than iOS on their browsers :)

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 14:19

20. nymike (unregistered)

Darn I just ran my Nexus S 4G on the site and got a whopping 2 FPS...that sucks

posted on 21 Jun 2011, 14:58 1

21. 1701nino (unregistered)

Hahahaha Iphone is the best,Iphone is the best, hahahaha iphone is the best
Suck d**k you frikdroids weepee7s

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 08:50 1

62. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)


posted on 21 Jun 2011, 16:29 2

29. sgogeta4 (Posts: 394; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)

I don't see the big deal. Every generation, even on desktops and laptops, web browsers are basically the same. Sure one may get 1 fps more today but tomorrow, another browser will top that and so on and so forth. Stop with the bashing of Apple or Google since it has nothing to do with them.

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