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The Moto X is not a "mid-range" device, it's top-shelf

0. phoneArena posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:04

Throughout the rumor phase of the Motorola Moto X, the device got the reputation of being a "mid-range" device, or being a phone that uses "last year's hardware", because people would see that the phone was rumored to have a Snapdragon S4 Pro, and simply assume the worst. It's time we all put away that misconception, because the Moto X is not a "mid-range" device, and it isn't using "last year's hardware". The Moto X is a top-tier device that can hang with any flagship on the market right now...

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posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:09 15

1. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

We all did it for the iPhone and the Z10 not even taking into consideration that the OS for both didn't call for some extremely high powered specs. In all honesty we have a false sense what is "high end" because certain OEMs believe in the idea of a specs race.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:21 38

11. androidfanboy (Posts: 162; Member since: 24 Jun 2013)

The iphone is low end

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:39 23

21. Twashbush (Posts: 47; Member since: 08 Jun 2011)

AFB. I agree but only because of it's limited OS, as much as I hate apple products for their crap OS's they run very smoothly.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:51 23

33. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

It runs so smooth because its so limited. They didn't even have real multitasking till IOS 7.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 17:18 26

74. bigstrudel (Posts: 529; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)

And with real multitasking...IOS 7 is still completely smooth on the iPhone 5.

Youre really underestimating how much work Apple put into their Custom A6 SoC which still performs up to par with ANYTHING on the market. For gods sake I can pull a 626ms Sunspider score with a 1.3ghz Dual Core.

Software Optimization > Pure Hardware Muscle.

Motorola is doing it right.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 17:22 8

80. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Multitasking on iOS 7 isn't completely smooth so stop pulling random facts from your ass. I have used a iPhone 5 for a full day, and while it's fast, it still stutters and struggles with multitasking. Given, it's still in beta, and I hope performance does get better because I'm at a 50/50 on getting the iPhone 5S.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 21:39 4

190. Sesameopen (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)

No, multitasking is becoming a pain on older devices like the iPhone 4.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 17:35 7

88. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

iOS7 hasn't even been released yet, and tons of forums on the beta point to it being buggy. Stop making things up or at least wait for the official version to roll out.

posted on 05 Aug 2013, 04:48

262. Angelface77 (Posts: 32; Member since: 10 Sep 2012)

could not agree with you more, These geeks are clueless.

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 03:12 1

210. Trex95 (Posts: 1118; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)

Low end and based on Unix and written with an advanced and developed C++?!

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 17:22 5

78. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)

In terms of raw power, it's basically using a half year-old dual core S4 Pro clocked at 1.7GHz but there is a key difference as to why it performs better. It's not entirely a half year old, because it's using the new Krait 400 architecture unlike the original S4 Pro, so from what I understand it's kind of a weird fusion of new and old. Also, they made the Adreno 320 beefier too.

All in all, it's a somewhat custom SoC that is definitely not low end, but not offering crowning performance in benchmarks.

The reason for the higher price is simple: American manufacturing and assembly. A few days ago PA had an article showing that the American people were willing to pay more for products made in the USA. Now its time to see if you guys are the vocal minority, or if America truly doesn't want to give up those Chinese sweatshops...

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 06:08 7

219. Victor.H (Posts: 785; Member since: 27 May 2011)

A couple of points. First, it's not Krait 400, it's Krait 300.

Phone Arena is a place of different authors and opinions, and this article is a good illustration. For me, the Moto X clearly features a mid-range platform that is the S4 Pro and with Snapdragon 800 devices coming in a couple of months it will grow old quickly. Moreover, all initial opinions agree that its screen and camera are not all that impressive. The problem here is not in 720p (that's a factor too) and in megapixels alone.

While I disagree with Michael's opinions, I think this article makes an important point in underlining the good GPU of the Moto X. We may have different opinions, but having this discussion is important.

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 10:04 5

227. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)

Here's my take on the situation.

1. Moto X has a 720p display.
a) 1080p over 720 display:- Higher sharpness
b) 720p display over 1080p display:- Lower Power Consumption. Higher performance in Games.

2. Moto X has a dual core CPU.
a) Quad Core over Dual Core:- Higher Performance
b) Dual Core over Quad Core:- NO ADVANTAGE.

When you don't need the extra performance, quad cores consume that same amount of power as dual cores. HOWEVER, if you need more performance the Quad Core Chip will have the extra headroom, but dual core won't.

That's why having a 720p Super AMOLED Plus display isn't midrange.

BUT having a dual core IS MID-RANGE.

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 22:55

244. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

1) You can't really see the difference between 720p and 1080p unless you are specifically looking for the differences.

2) Moto X has a dual core CPU, with 2 companion cores that deal with other aspects of the phone. If you're looking for an advantage of the Moto X's "dual core" over a quad core, just look at battery life. You'd never be able to have a quad-core CPU constantly monitoring for voice commands and still offer a full day's worth of battery.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 11:41 1

247. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)

1) I don't have a 1080p phone. I only said that based on the what I have read on 15 or so review websites. It's obvious that the difference is not significant as the numbers might say.

But for a lot of people, it matters. They don't want to see the pixels even if they are like 3 cm from the screen and concentrating really hard on the screen. It really satisfies their ego. You have to keep that in mind.

2) Sorry if I am being rude bud did you take note of what I said. I said "more performance". I never said that extra features like standby voice commands or the notifications turning on when you pickup the device are useless. I can bet that for some people these features are just what they needed.

But you have to consider that there more countries on the planet other than USA or UK. My android phone doesn't catch my accent as good it does as for Americans or British people. Even if I specifically select the Voice-to-text pack for my country, it doesn't work as well as it should. So, for me and my country-mates (not sure if that's a word), it's just plain useless.

But I admit that the notifications turning on when I pick-up the device is really cool.

posted on 05 Aug 2013, 03:00 1

257. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

so you're not really giving your take on the situation, just your take on how the Moto X stacks up to your personal needs and preferences...

clearly the X8 offers advantages that the S600 simply does not...hell, the Moto X offers advantages that other Smartphones do not and could not offer unless they were using hardware with the same principals as the Moto X.

posted on 05 Aug 2013, 03:23

259. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)


P.S. It was me who gave you the thumbs up.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 12:54 1

252. itreday (Posts: 68; Member since: 24 May 2012)

Dual core over quad - LESS BATTERY CONSUMPTION..

posted on 05 Aug 2013, 03:01 1

258. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

not necessarily. it would depend on how it's configured.

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 10:08 1

228. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)

Yeah it was too late to edit when I re-checked. But yeah, noted.

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 10:19 3

229. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)

I think generally most people understand that it's a great phone. Just not at the price that it is currently at.

Still, at the same time, Motorola is a hardware maker, and amidst concerns, Google wanted to make clear that Motorola wouldn't get any special favors. LG, HTC, Sony etc. are all having a hard time breaking 5% of the Android marketshare, and if Motorola who was behind all of them all of a sudden vaults over them, they will disown Android and go with Windows Phone. With a little more, Samsung could get a sour taste in their mouth. It's arguable how much of the userbase will follow Samsung to Tizen, but it won't be trivial.

This means that Google can't give Motorola an unfair advantage and start subsidizing the phones like crazy. They also made huge investments in American assembling and customizations never before seen for a smartphone yet.

People only seem to care about the low price, but if Motorola starts matching Samsung's Android share, Motorola will become too powerful and I think its foolish for people to think that they won't act any differently than if Samsung and Apple if they got to that point...

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 19:37 3

169. akki20892 (Posts: 3902; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)

Moto x is not mid range device............

r u kidding me


posted on 02 Aug 2013, 20:57 6

183. garz_pa (Posts: 154; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

You have to look beyond the cores of the CPU.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 21:13 6

187. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1639; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

It has better specifications than the device pictured in your icon, so if you are willing to admit that a Lumia device is mid range as well then we may be on the same page.

posted on 03 Aug 2013, 02:09 2

206. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

Agreed. This article also made me realize that it's not always about the number of cores, but how smartphone utilize these cores effectively. With that being said, it makes me think that Samsung is just using the cpu cores as a marketing strategy, so that people will think more cores is equal to better performance. But that's not the case since a lot of people are reporting about how the S4 lags, inspite of it having 1.9 ghz snap600.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 12:57

266. medicci37 (Posts: 1335; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

This paid article is bs. If you can't tell the difference between 720 & 1080p you need glasses. Also screen is 2 small for high end device. & if part of battery life is such a issue, they should have used the 600. Much better battery life with 600 even though it's clocked higher

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:11 37

2. karim77 (Posts: 70; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)

Nope,still a mid range device in my opinion

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:14 3

5. kozza3 (Posts: 715; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)

if it had a modified S600 with a 1080p screen would you have been happy?

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 16:38 16

19. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)

yes, i would have been....

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 14:44

272. lola99 (Posts: 33; Member since: 03 Aug 2013)

and if it had worse battery life as a result of that, would you have been happy?

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