T-Mobile defines the “limit” on its Unlimited LTE plan

Like many others, T-Mobile offers an "Unlimited" data plan for its mobile customers. It differs from the alternative offerings in the provider's portfolio in that it doesn't limit or throttle a user's connection speed when they go beyond certain threshold of monthly data use. At least, that's what the carriers would like you to believe.
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57. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

It is, because you will not stay throttled. It means just like you, others want to watch Netflix and youtube, and amazon. Probably is, they haven't used it like you have, so you get put in a line. Their cash is the same as yours, welcome to equality. And when other users go throughout their day, the network frees up and you get to go again. Do you sue the city because the speed limit is 65 but you can only go 40 during traffic? NO.

58. Chodeesius813

Posts: 5; Member since: Apr 30, 2015

Hey any1 see capt obvious here in chat or is it just me. Nobody failed to mention the almost 13.5 million metro pcs customers that tmo brought in this year sharing precious bandwidth on aws spectrum 1700/2100mHz bands. For people who think they been throttled do your speed test late in the evening and early morning...No problem right...thats because of network congestion on the lte bands i mentioned above. Most phones coming out this year and In the future will run on tmobile wideband lte band 12 700mhz spectrum. I believe this band is reserved for their prime customers who has exceptional credit. And where this deprioritizing wont happen. On average i use 12-15 gigs per cycle and notice significant congestion and slow down from download speeds 250kpbs on 4g lte but when i switch to hspa+ it increases to5-7. mbps. That migration of metro sub prime customers just eats up all that band width during peak hours but disappears in the late evenings. I have an lg g3 and my wife had note 4 and have done speed test @ at same time during peak hours while mine has a significant slow down my wife's maintain its high download speed on the note4. The reason wideband lte..only 7 devices has the necessary antennas to pick up wideband lte and not most most phones purchased I 2014 has this antenna. Main phones are iphone 6, 6+, and note 4. Sucks that my lg g3 a flag ship phone doesn't support this wideband lte. My point is this: 1)you're not being throttled 2) blame the integration of metro sub prime customers who eat band width like a fat kid in a buffet 3) the 10% that uses their phone for p2p and uses their phones as a personal hotspot. When you experience slow speeds think of the above mentioned and stop crying. You shouldbe be thankful that we still have a carrier that gives somekind of unlim data..or some version of it..

59. GreatBigPhoney

Posts: 70; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

"Most phones coming out this year and In the future will run on tmobile wideband lte band 12 700mhz spectrum. I believe this band is reserved for their prime customers who has exceptional credit." No. Not at all. sub 1ghz spectrum is actually worse for capacity than the higher band spectrum T-mobile already has in place. That's why AT&T and Verizon bid so much in the AWS-3 auction. Band 12 is used for further reach and better in-building penetration. They don't own enough of the band 12 spectrum to make it wideband. They could combine it with their existing spectrum through carrier aggregation, but that's the only way that particular band is going to help in regards to capacity in a meaningful way. Any new phone from T-mobile will be able to use band 12. It wouldn't make sense for them to not allow everyone to use a part of their network that gives them better and expanded coverage. They'd lose customers. Regardless of credit, if you're giving them money each month, they want to keep you around. Credit is only used to qualify you for device pricing promotions, not service.

60. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

tmobile does not reserve bands for credit like customers, I see it all the time where crappy credit customers who need to pay full price of device with no allowance for an EIP, using up 80GB of data. This is literally just network capacity. Don't forget that besides metro, which already used tmobile spectrum, there is over a dozen more sub-prime carriers that use the network too. As well, a lot of areas in nearly all cities are refarmed towers that support 1900LTE, and nearly all rural areas that only had 2g are now 1900LTE as well.

61. GreatBigPhoney

Posts: 70; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

One other thing, the iphone 6 and 6 plus do not have Band 12. The G3 is no longer a flagship, that was their flagship until the G4. the Samsung S5 was a flagship and did not have Band 12. It was designed and launched before T-mobile's deal with Verizon cleared, allowing them to even deploy the spectrum. I wouldn't be surprised if the phones were set to not prioritize Band 12 unless it is necessary. I have a Note 4 and I notice in areas where Band 12 is available, it will lock in when the signal is weak, but as soon as you leave that area it will automatically switch you back to the other bands and prefers them because they do offer better capacity and are more abundant so far. I also have an iPhone 6 plus which does not have band 12. I get about the same speeds on both devices unless I am in one of those areas where reception sucks and Band 12 kicks in on the Note 4 out of necessity. Along with the MetroPCS customers they also acquired their spectrum, which was also mid-high band holdings. Those people in general shouldn't really make that much of a difference. It is the people who need to use 100GB of data a month that are causing the problem.

45. JayBEE

Posts: 180; Member since: Apr 03, 2014

Un-Unlimited = limited

62. psiclone

Posts: 11; Member since: May 22, 2015

Let's get something straight, unlimited means unlimited...not fairly, moderately or slightly limited. Unlimited bandwidth shouldn't be throttled, as AT&T was doing. What T-Mobile is doing is certainly, and more specifically, not limiting of bandwidth. It's what we call QOS (Quality of Service), which has been implemented in networks all over the world for many years. Having said that, it simply means that you can't pay the cost for unlimited data plans and expect to be any kind of power user. That's the issue that needs to be addressed with these carriers. Carriers need to stop using terms that are misleading and/or false and to stop making it more difficult for customers to get what carriers are obviously trying to spin their service as. I would say it would be more than fair to do it the way Google is planning, where you pay for what you use. That way, the carrier doesn't have to prioritize you in any way more than you're willing to pay for...not mislead you into thinking what you pay for along with everyone else is obstructing you, simply because you use it.
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