Switching from Android to Windows Phone Part 1: initial impressions and missing features

Making a change or choosing a new mobile platform can be a big step. Our mobile devices are more and more important in our daily lives, so the choice we make for our hardware and software dictates a lot of how we interact on a daily basis...
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91. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

I'd take the no upgrade thing with a grain of salt. There isnt a direct reason why the handsets cant be updated. if they sold like crap, thats probably the only reason they wouldnt, but phones like the 900 will all but definitely get an update.. Id bet a buck on that. And if not, WP7 has an active mod community that will fix it for ya. Starting to sound like android.. lol

101. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

The direct reason is that carriers don't want to push it, and Microsoft won't allow "fragmentation" by making the update an optional install through Zune.

103. jimjam unregistered

When decent WP7 handsets can cost $200 compared with the $300-400+ for the other OSes then really WP7 users can afford to get a new phone in a year's time anyway. Its not like WP7 is going to be obsolete right away once wp8 arrives either. I'd be mad if I invested $600 on an iphone or galaxy III for it never to receive OS updates. But my $200 Radar ... well I wouldn't be too disappointed. I think android users are too used to being upset about the OS upgrade issue... probably due to how rapidly it moves. I would be surprised in Lumia 800/900 owners don't get an upgrade though. That would make me mad if I invested in one of those!

137. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

There is still plenty of time for deals to be made and issues to be ironed out. Its something to worry about for sure, but its not set in stone just yet.

169. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Hey Sniggs!! I am about 3 hours from St. Louis (not sure if you are you still there), but I will be willing to roll out there and buy you your choice of drink if 2nd Gen devices at least do not get it. I am not even buying for one second that Microsoft will not get one of the main advantages of this type of system to all their newer devices. I know you loves you some Android, and truthfully you may not enjoy WP based on what you enjoy doing, and how steeped you are with Google. But, WP8 will be available to these devices. Obviously, each carrier may slow this down, but I am willing to bet, literally, the upgrade shows up.

172. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

It really just be silly that first gen devices dont get it as well, since technically there is almost no discernible hardware differences between them. But they need to at least hit the big guns, the Nokia 900 & 710, Focus 1&2, Titan 1&2, and maybe even the OG HD7.

77. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

I've said it before I think windows is doing this right. They rebuild their OS from the ground up and have focused on the right things. They're a little light on features, but with their next update and the Nokia partnership I think they're set to take a chunk of androids marketshare. There's a lot of dissatisfied android users that will be switching.

80. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Of course you couldn't go through a whole comment without passive aggressively bashing Android. I know this is just the Internet, but it's almost physically painful to read a mostly reasonable statement and then just see it completely derail at the end. I mean, really. There is no longer anything implicitly and/or glaringly dissatisfying about Android; if there's anything that dissatisfies customers anymore, it's that they happen to get a really crappy Android phone (which, unfortunately, exist) or they happen to get a defective high end Android phone, which then drops them into a pattern of getting crappy refurbished phones (something which has been a reality in the mobile warranty/insurance industry for years now). More often than not, when I've shown someone the advantages of Android (mainly through features and cost) they won't make the switch from an iPhone because either their peers have it or they've invested too much into the iPhone ecosystem. I'm willing to bet that if Google made a switch initiative which allowed for people moving from iOS to get any apps they paid for on iOS for free on Android, and also move their music/documents over to Android for free (and made it easy)

82. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

the rate of Android adoption from iOS would be much higher.

94. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i dont know why or how u keep expecting more of him.

106. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Because, hyperbole aside, Taco's not an idiot. At least he doesn't appear to be. His reading comprehension sucks (either that, or he's very good at misinterpreting/selective reading) but he's not an idiot.

113. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

lol, im going to have to respectfully disagree with that. :) 4 years of him nipping at my heels and watching him say the same things over and over and over again no matter how true or untrue they may be.. and a very glaring lack of reading comprehension that we have all seen over our times here, leads me to conclude the exact opposite.

168. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

What ever happened with that bet?

170. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

The bet was for who sold the most smartphones in Q1-2012. Samsung wins, he leaves the site, Apple wins, I leave the site. We all know Samsung won by a healthy margin, but just as I figured, he refuses to honor the bet and leave. It would be so peaceful if he did.. If only I had ban powers, I'd enforce the bet myself. :)

87. jimjam unregistered

I was dissatisfied.

89. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

The very first comment that I almost would of agreed with you on. It's very unfortunate that you brought in biased comment at the end.

95. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Unfortunately it's true. Android satisfaction rates are abysmal. Very few people want to tinker with their phone to make it work. Most happy android users just don't know any better. Windows will be the alternative that eats into their market share.

98. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

"most happy android users just dont know any better". seriously? you actually just said that? lololol. troll of trolls.

99. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

Actually it depends on your definition of satisfaction. iPhone users also unlock and jailbreak their phone. I guess to your definition of satisfaction those iPhone users also aren't satisfied with their phone. Once again, your argument that Android suck doesn't just go one way, but iPhone and WP too. From what I see, WP will eventually eat into more of Apple's market share than any others. Most of the iPhone users I know already got the Lumia 900 or other WP, I'm not saying that's the general population there, but at least in my crowds there's a clear indication of people ditching iPhone for WP.

104. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

How do you define abysmal, Taco?

105. jimjam unregistered

Me and Taco =2

109. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Okay. Outstanding. You're allowed to be dissatisfied. Doesn't change my point that the operating system itself doesn't have anything that's glaringly dissatisfying. Unless you have something specific to add about what dissatisfies you.

111. jimjam unregistered

It was a joke

114. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

People who like quality won't be happy with android that's for sure.

123. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

Quality... are you talking about the screen shatters when iPhone dropped? or are you talking about the parts being used that were built by other manufacturers like Samsung? OS wise, you are talking about how the whole phone slows down or freezes after I jailbreaked it to make it do the things it was supposed to, but still doesn't?

127. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Glass is quality. How many 5 star hotels have you been to that use plastic silverware or plastic vases. Apple designs all it's parts and has others manufactur them. Doesn't make them any less Apple's. Freezing and lagging after you hack your phone. That's on you for messing it up.

138. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Actually, silverware isn't usually glass. It's usually metal. And there are Android phones out there which use more metallic parts than the iPhone. And vases just have to sit there and look pretty. They're not meant to be tossed in pockets, dropped, thrown around, handled by kids, etc. In fact, vases are generally not meant to be handled by guests at all. The quality of material depends on what function it fills. A phone made entirely of glass is NOT a quality phone, because glass is a poor material to use for the phone's most abused surfaces.

140. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

thank you for saving me a moment by explaining the difference between a vase and a phone. lol. Taco, go put a vase in your pocket.

139. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

So once again, glass that shatters is consider quality. And again you're claiming other manufacturer products are not quality, but the product they make for Apple are quality. Btw, freezing and lagging doesn't happen on my Android. Just so you know, most people who hack their iPhone to make it to do what it's suppsed to, experience lag on the iPhone. It's called a hardware limitation. Your argument completely contradicts your point of quality, which makes your argument pretty much invalid.

112. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Force closes, lag, ugly UI, lack of support from OEM's and google, inaccurate touch screens are just a few things.

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