The OnePlus 5 cheats in benchmarks, just like those before it (Update - co-founder responds)

It looks like OnePlus is back to its old tricks with the new OnePlus 5, for XDA Developers caught the handset with a bit of virtual 'doping' during benchmarks...
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21. lpratas

Posts: 398; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

Republic of Korea is at the same level of Japan, in everything.

70. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

They are known to all undergo a lot of plastic surgery, just like you. So yeah you could be champion.

72. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Eh that makes no sense whatsoever. It's not doping. It doesn't have to inject anything or do anything invasive to reach that max thoroughput. It just tries harder during some apps. It's no different. When it sees GTA 4 open it goes all out. When it sees geekbench open, it goes all out. What's the problem? Both is going all out to run an app. Why is one cheating and the other not? Lol

7. yyzamin

Posts: 382; Member since: Aug 26, 2015

Cheap Chinese crap, what did you honestly expect. Apple cops a lot of criticism on this site but at least their upfront about everything.

8. Macready

Posts: 1824; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

They also appear to be cheating with the "zoom" or tele factor. The pictures and their words make us believe we're looking at a 2x optical zoom/magnification, but the actual Exif reports both lens modules with a 4.1 mm real focal length, which because of the different sensor sizes translates into 24mm and 32mm equivalents respectively, or a 1.33X optical zoom. In other words, the Exif suggests that Oneplus by default also applies a 1.5X digital zoom (upsampling) to achieve the factor 2. Which is quite misleading too. Somewhat in their defense, in anything but good light and for closeups etc, the iPhone 7 Plus did something similar or worse, by using just digital zoom instead of the secondary tele module. The difference here though, is that digital zoom (even if partially) appears to be always active on the tele module since there is no optical way to achieve it with those camera modules...

31. AmashAziz

Posts: 2930; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

That's some heavy-duty info.You need to report it to some big mobile sites for verification. Because it will be lost in this comments section. You wouldn't want all that time writing this to be wasted, would you?

79. Ticklemyfancy

Posts: 214; Member since: Oct 09, 2016

No,it is not . GSMArena just wrote it in their review

82. Macready

Posts: 1824; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Thanks for the heads up.

83. Macready

Posts: 1824; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Apparently the GSMArena article is partially incorrect and I was correct. OnePlus has just confirmed to the Dutch website Tweakers.net, that it is indeed 1.33X " lossless" (optical) zoom and the rest is digital zoom. So my intial post above was fully correct.https://tweakers.net/nieuws/126213/oneplus-haalt-methode-voor-cheaten-benchmarks-uit-op5.html

10. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

I'll wait for the Google Pixel 2.

11. redmd

Posts: 1939; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Isn't copying similar to cheating?

32. AmashAziz

Posts: 2930; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

No....

12. Awalker

Posts: 1977; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Most sites nowadays don't mention benchmarks in their reviews. They just tell their readers how well the phone performed during daily use.

34. You_Dont_Say

Posts: 431; Member since: Jan 26, 2015

..and most sites say this is the fastest phone out.

18. Ironboned

Posts: 77; Member since: Jun 16, 2016

Oneplus not copying only iPhone design also iPhone horrible lies. Being as*hole is a known thing from Apple co. Oneplus is the same. Since first oneplus devixe i knee it it's f*cked up device like Xiaomi.

33. AmashAziz

Posts: 2930; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Firstly, you are a fool. Secondly, Apple hasn't recently been reported to cheat in benchmarks. It doesn't have to, because speed tests already show it has the most powerful CPU on a per-core basis.

49. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Oneplus fanboy detected?

22. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1324; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

Benchmarks are mostly useless. The only serve to show the MAXIMUM computational performance of a CPU/GPU. They don't really show normal usage performance due to frequency stepping. Heat generation and dissipation make it impossible for any processor to maintain a 100% performance output.

58. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

No...they dont show normal usage because that is simply not the intent. The intent of a benchmark is to push the hardware to its limiy to see what it can do. What it can do, and what you will do are 2 different things The benchmark is based on the phone and how it will perform out the box. Not after you install apps and make setting changes which all affect performance. Again they didnt cheat because, because the hardware ran with it specs.

67. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1324; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

Please read my comment again. I didn't say they show normal usage performance. I only said they are indicative of MAXIMUM performance.

23. PrYmCHGOan

Posts: 335; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

They are cheating. If yiu are a buying a motorcycle, lets say a Ninja or Ducati, would it be cheating for them ro use a professional rider to show it off? To show its potential? Wouldnt iy be great to see how fast the bike can go, even if your arent going to be going that fast? Its not cheating. They never said this is the performance you will get wveryday. Neither sid Samsung or anyone else. When you buy a new car, they show you everyrbing it can do, just because you arent going ro use all of it, doesnt mean you shouldnt know about it.

24. PrYmCHGOan

Posts: 335; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Anyone who woukd even get worked up and claim it cheating is BS. Cheating woukd be overclocking the CPU when you cant do it. The fact is, if they can forxw it to fun at 1.9ghz most of the time, you can too. But just because mist wont, doesnt change the fact thwy can and tbey are shoiwng it off. Its nkt cheati g. Anyine qho days so is stupid.

26. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

Your logic is flawed. A professional rider may ride a bike better than me. But with proper training i can also become a professional rider and ride the same bike with same speed and control. It is not that when some other person ride a bike it will perform better. And if i ride it with same expertise it will underperform. Similarly your car analogy is also flawed. What i do with my car is my preference. A car manufacturer cannot tell me that though it can reach maximum speed of 200m/hr, but when you drive it , they will throttle the speed remotely so that i can never cross 150m/hr. But this is a different case. In real world usage op5 can never perform like it shows in these benchmark tests. So it is cheating or we can say misleading a consumer.

30. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

I second that, @adi90. This is cheating, there's no other way to call it.

59. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

See it how you want. It doesn't make it a fact. Its not cheating. If you bought a car based on well it performs and youi want the fastest possible, you dont want to see it perform at speed limits. you want to see it perform the way it was designed. if you don't understand that then why are you into tech? Because obviously that means you dont understand benchmarks. The cheips did not run above their native possible speed. So how is that cheating. Cheating would be overclocking...like they stated.

60. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It si not misleading because peopel who buy phones, know that phoen or computers dont perform at top speed all the time. That's common sense. BENCHMARK IS THE KEY WORD. You arent runnign a benchmark We want to know what the hardware i capable of period. Not what it will do when you use itl. You are wrong and so is everyone else who is crying... I wont argue any further.

61. Ninetysix

Posts: 2964; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Galaxy S8 vs OP5 benchmarks. OP5 beats the Galaxy S8 in all of them. Don't cry when the article comes out.

69. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1324; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

In real world usage, what percentage of the time will your car reach 200 or even 150m/hr? Normal cars aren't designed to sustain a 100% performance output. Consumer ICs are the same, they can't sustain maximum performance without sacrificing lifespan.

37. amats69

Posts: 1527; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

fix first your typing....calm down..inhale....exhale....

25. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

I Do not understand why does op team had to cheat. Op3/3t are already good devices for day to day usage. Op5 seems as fluid as op3t. They are already doing great in terms of performance. Spec and performance wise there is no competition to op5 in its price range. Nowadays in era of youtube very few people buy a mobile without seeing the actual performance. They need to keep it simple.
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