The OnePlus 5 cheats in benchmarks, just like those before it (Update - co-founder responds)

It looks like OnePlus is back to its old tricks with the new OnePlus 5, for XDA Developers caught the handset with a bit of virtual 'doping' during benchmarks...
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1. doejon

Posts: 411; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

thats why benchmarks are for the ass

9. ahmuzencab

Posts: 192; Member since: May 12, 2017

I mean the benchmarks that come out of the ass are by the likes of Samsung and OnePlus, the ones who cheat to make their notsopowerful chip seem verysopowerful

14. lpratas

Posts: 398; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

That is a lie. Where is the prove that Samsung do cheating with their phones, normally nor even are the phones which have the best results in benchmarking.

29. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Where is the prove that Samsung do cheating withtheir phones," Here is proof... from PA: And here is it from the original article at ArsTechnica: Samsung has been known to cheat on benchmarks too, bruh!

40. Cicero

Posts: 1129; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

You show an article posted in 2013. Long time has passed since then. And Samsung change it's attitude since then. Something actual you have?

51. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

... a long time ago, in a Galaxy far far away...

56. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"... a long time ago, in a Galaxy far far away..." @Macready That is why I said Samsung has BEEN KNOWN to cheat on benchmarks... I didn't say Samsung is still currently cheating on benchmarks. "HAS BEEN KNOWN" refers to the past, not to the present. My point was pretty clear in post #29.

81. Macready

Posts: 1821; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Sure, but you were replying to posts talking in and about present time, not past perfect, let alone past tense. Hence my reply to highlight the difference between Samsung (now) and OnePlus (now).

68. yann

Posts: 614; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

Good one!

53. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

But they didn't cheat. They simply whitelisted the phone on tests to benchmark the cores at full clock. Cheating would be exceeding true clock speed. That is the whole point of a benchmark. If you were gonna race a car, you aren't gonna drive the speed limit on a racetrack...right? You're gonna push the car as fast as it was designed. Samsung didn't cheat. Nor did anyone else. Anyone who claims otherwise, doesn't understand what benchmark tools for.

64. ahmuzencab

Posts: 192; Member since: May 12, 2017

So every tech blogger, site, channel, etc was wrong.. except you? Yea sorry... no.

65. IT-Engineer

Posts: 545; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

Yes they are wrong. Being a tech blogger does'nt mean you understand software engineering, hardware, limitations and so on. I'm a software engineer and work as a system architect. What Oneplus and Samsung did is not cheating. They didn't tweak the benchmarking software to give false results. The hardware can run at 1.9 GHz underload, and so they did. There is nothing wrong, cheating or illegal.

73. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

@IT Engineer and Techie If artificially boosting your benchmarks score is not cheating, then why samsung s8, ,mi mix , etc did not do the same thing which op5 did. You should know that the lower clocked cores ran at 1.9GHz for 95% of the time only beacuase it deducted that popular benchmarks is being run. Will they run for same duration of the time in other scenarios like 3d gaming even if a user wants ? And as far as testing the hardware power is concerned , why only op5 is so much eager to test the raw power of sd835. It means samsung and other manufacturers using sd835 do not care about their chip. The problem with you guys is that you think you are different than others. In that false sense you forget the difference between right and wrong.

71. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Of course they are wrong. They are Apple shills like you. If IOS was open, someone would have created an app to show that Apple probably does the same thing but probably in an even more shady manner. It's just that tech geeks cant do this on a closed system like they can do on Android.

78. ahmuzencab

Posts: 192; Member since: May 12, 2017

Attacking two companies makes me an "Apple shill" apparently. That's how I know your entire reasoning and any statement made from you is void/poor/false/a waste of time to read from now on. Good job.

55. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

That's where you are stupid. Because if the chip perform fast in the benchmark, that means that si what the hardware is capable are such a dummy. Just because you may never run a chipset at full speed, doesn't mean the hardware isn't capable. Again you troll haters don't understand benchmark tool.

2. pixel_ftw

Posts: 84; Member since: Jun 19, 2017

Chinese and Korean companies are big cheater in the benchmarks app. Big score in the benchmark make those silly goose fanboys happy.

4. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

lol very true they buy phone because benchmark number.

57. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Really? Who you think buys a phone based only on benchmarks? You sound stupid and you have no facts to prove such. I mean, woudl you claim people buy cars based on the top speed on the speedometer? No you wouldnt claim that would you. Again you trolls are stupid. The people who blow this up, are simply pissed because their piss poor shi**y phone can't match the power of top device in similar benchmarks.

66. antifanboyism

Posts: 57; Member since: Jun 20, 2017

Benchmarks doesn't necessarily converts into real life performance. The proof of this is kirin 960 is evenly matched by snapdragon 835 . But it scores much less in antutu and other benchmarking . Even it scores are similar with so 820

15. lpratas

Posts: 398; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

Nor Samsung and neither and much less LG. That is a lie.

16. ngtitao

Posts: 10; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

Dude, you are generalizing base on an incident. We can't truly say all Americans are dumbass just because Trump is one right?

38. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Americans no, US citizens on the other hand...

3. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

It seems Oneplus is copying not only iphone but also android OEM . Beacuse it Never Settles.

5. Tech-shake

Posts: 213; Member since: Nov 14, 2016

Phonearena is really going hard on oneplus this time around, jelly you didn't recive a review unit much??

19. ngtitao

Posts: 10; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

Phonearena is not the only one reporting this. It's every where in the web now.

6. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

"But but it's to show oneplus maximum potential so it's legit." Sounds like it's acceptable for athletes to dope in order to maximize potential. now that every OEMs are doping for benchmark, the result just like Korean beauty contest.

13. Awalker

Posts: 1977; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Athletes don't dope because there's rules against it. There's no such rules with benchmarks. That's why reviewers tend to stay away from benchmarks.

17. HillaryClinton2020

Posts: 191; Member since: Feb 08, 2017

hahaha Korean beauty contest, their face looks so same i can be champion

20. lpratas

Posts: 398; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

You must have much to point to Koreans, for the case they did some bad things to you? Don't mix Koreans and Chinese people in the same bag.
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