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Steve Jobs vowed revenge on Eric Schmidt over Android

0. phoneArena posted on 20 Oct 2011, 21:46

A biography about Steve Jobs, which is scheduled to be released on Monday, apparently tells the story of the falling out between Eric Schmidt and Steve Jobs, and how Jobs vowed revenge...

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posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:15 5

17. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

This story is consistent with Job's view of the world after his experience with MS violating the license that Jobs thought had been negotiated for MS to develop Windows. Jobs felt that MS had only been given the right to build tiled windows, while MS felt they had received a license to build any kind of window UI (including overlapping windows). Apple lost the litigation. From that point on, Steve became obsessed with control over what he perceived as his/Apple's IP. Which explains all of the litigation that Apple has launched in areas it (Steve) believed was its own exclusive preserve. The moment that Google released Android, I was expecting the lawsuits to flow from Apple.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:21 7

20. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well gee, this is a total surprise.. NOT. I TOLD you all, I TOLD you that Jobs and Apple had a vendetta against Android! I TOLD you the objective was to wipe them off the market... JUST BECAUSE Google put out an operating system that works off touchscreens too. I mean, what other major ideas could Apple claim as unique when Android came out? And Android was already deep into development by the time Schmidt would have been aware of the iPhone.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:27

23. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Although it would be great to get Schmidt's verification that this story about his vendetta was true.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:58 1

38. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Frankly, I suspect that after some passage of time, the lawsuits will get sorted out and Apple and Google will move on to the next big thing. Steve's passing gives cooler heads an opportunity to do what works from a business perspective.

In the mean time.... The competition between iOS and Android results in great (irresistible?) pressure to innovate. Just look at the difference between Android v. 2.3.4/5 and v. 4.X (ICS). I doubt ICS would have followed on the heels of iOS v. 5.0 were it not for the competition between iOS and Android.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:31 7

26. DigitalBath (Posts: 8; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

Apple is going to become the most bitter and pissed off company when it realizes Android has become a better OS. Maybe it already has realized this and that is why we see some of these rediculous lawsuits. You are setting yourself up for failure Apple when your number one priority is the destruction of Android..... it's not happening

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:26 2

50. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

Android will never be a better OS than IOS 5. Like I've said many times, nobody considers the fact that if it were not for third party applications, the Android phones would not be able to do over half the things it can and more than half the time, the app doesn't work as it should or crashes. That is why IOS always beats Android on sooooo many levels. All the features on IOS are integrated, tested, and always work unlike the Android OS with the third party support and guess what, you don't have to root it either. I know I've just amazed you all. I dare someone to argue. Look at all the issues that Gingerbread had in one month. If you'd like to take a look at how many I've had here's the link


And those are actual facts on calls that I have taken. That is just me alone and that's all in one month. I stopped documenting after that. Come on someone please argue with me, you know you are full of it if you do. Android would be miniscule if it weren't for Steve Jobs and his creations which made the smartphone industry what it is today.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:27

52. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

Correction on that last post
****The apps don't work as they should or crash.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:50

67. jacko (unregistered)

i had same thing on ios and even handset freeze so u wanna back up what u say

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:56 1

70. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

I've owned every Iphone that has been out except the 4S and I have never had my phone freeze or crash and I've never had an app cause my phone to do so and know plenty of people who share the same experience with no issues. In fact IDK anyone that has issues with their Iphone. hmmm....interesting. I know tons that have issues with their Androids. And sure maybe an Iphone or two has issues, but it's nowhere compared to the amount of Android issues because it is opened source and a bum can make apps for it.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:41 5

63. scvzw2 (Posts: 32; Member since: 20 Jun 2010)

NVPMOTHAF you mad? Android is an open source .. your supposed to be able to run 3rd party apps smh and in any case explain these features your talking about? and unless your last android was the Eris (which runs 2.1) you'd know there are very few if any apps that crash now smh and no one said steve jobs didnt help grow technology which in turn help develop andriod even more.. but Google just took the tech and made a better OS imo many may think iOS is better like yourself that doesnt give you the right to bash it!

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:52 1

69. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

I don't bash it. I give correct facts. I don't dislike Androids because of their competition with Apple, I dislike Androids because of their inability to create a stable OS and the fact that the customers have to deal with the constant issues the Android OS presents when the new OSs come out. Like I've said before, I didn't dislike the Android OS until I started working for Verizon and saw how many pissed off customers there were when their phone didn't work before and after an update across all Android phones. Those issues that I have posted are no joke real life stats for calls that I've had on those issues in one month. Now I wouldn't be posting this if people wouldn't say that IOS sucks when in reality, it's Android that does. It's amazing how many people in that month also switched or wanted to switch to the Iphone because of it's stable and awesome nature

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 00:28

83. DigitalBath (Posts: 8; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

1st. Congrats on being a verizon call taker. We r all very proud of you.

2nd. I never once said in my post that IOS sucks.

3rd. If you were a call taker for apple, you would see customers calling in for problems about thier iphones just like android customers do about thier phones.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 00:49

91. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

No Verizon takes calls on all phone issues including the Iphone.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 00:43 2

88. Whateverman (Posts: 3285; Member since: 17 May 2009)

@ NVPMOTHAF. You are hilarious! You say Droids are useless without third party apps, well could you explain what are all the wonderful things the iPhone can do without third party apps? Until just recently, you couldn't even activate an iPhone without downloading iTunes first, and that's only if you even have a computer to load it on. But on any Android you had speech to text, widgets, multiple home screens, and even free turn by turn navigation before you even entered your gmail account into the phone. That's cool if you don't like Droids now, that's you prerogative, you don't have to make stuff up dude.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:05

99. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

Ummm, my supervisor tried to show me that so called "speech to text" and tried to show me that it compared with Siri and that was an epic fail. You have to literally talk into the phone like it's a baby and that's even if it understood what you were saying. HA big joke. And if you noticed, the Iphone didn't really have any issues with the activation part because of the fact that it ran through Apple first (I will say that when the Iphone first released it did have issues with Activating because of the high vollume of phones being activated at once) the Bionic (which I like a lot) is still having issues activating a month after release. And I'm not making stuff up, that is real stats from calls I've been taking. And btw you can have multiple screens on the iphone as well and btw google maps on the Iphone is wayyy better than it is on the Android (I've seen it on both with multiple Android phones) It's like this one customer with a Droid X 2 said "You can't make this stuff up! I really feel like I'm on punked with as many Androids that I've had, new and clnr, in the last year." Srry you can't handle the truth. If they didn't have SOOOO many issues, I'd have nothing to post about other than how Iphone is more awesome.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:06

100. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

And I wasn't calling you out DigitalBath, I was generalizing on the average Android user.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:20 4

105. Whateverman (Posts: 3285; Member since: 17 May 2009)

I didn't say Google maps, I said turn by turn navigation. You go to Maps on iOS and it just sits there, with Android I say where I want to go and it tells me where to turn every step of the way. If your sup can't work voice actions, that explains a lot about both of you and the job your doing. I think Siri is better myself, but Siri can't tell me how to get anywhere, and it's just not worth getting just to hear my phone tell a few not-so-funny jokes. Your I titled to feel its is "more awesome" but I know the truth dude...and you ain't telling it!

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 18:11 2

232. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

I'm telling what I've seen and heard from numerous people in different states and when a customer calls in and says that they want the latest and greates android I tell them about the "great things" that the stock Android OS can do and I'm still able to easily convince them to get an Iphone without bashing either side. I like and dislike certain things on both operating systems, but you can't argue with the fact that IOS will always be more stable than Adroid OS.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 10:00 1

198. speed4evr (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

Im gonna have to agrre with them on this issue of Android stability. Ive numerous android phones, Hero Evo 4G Nexus 4G Evo 3D, I didnt have problems with. Only downfall to the Hero was slow processor n small amnt of ram, but that was Sprint's Android. Ive worked Sprint customer care for over 6 yrs, people are in love with Android or they wouldnt be taking market share and riddiculous amount of Android activations everyday. Your basis that you for Verizon and hear ppl complain is the norm. Ppl call customer care to complain, Android plays a huge part in the fact that Verizon has reached over 107M customers. As far as who stole ideas from who is never ending argument and is hard to prove without solid evidence. Either way, both companies ideas and innovations make each other continue to strive for new ideas. my 2 cents. ***Ive had numerous iPods n hated that you need iTunes to set it up or add stuff (iOS5 excluded)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 22:21

247. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Gingerbread had issues?? OK, lol.....not on my captivate....

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 22:30

248. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

Issues is an understatement.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 19:39

272. Ray386 (Posts: 8; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

First of all NVPMOTHAF android doesnt need third party apps att wouldnt let you download third party apps for the longest and it was still an awesome device most people get an Iphone to jail break just so they can download third party apps And how can you say android will never be better than ios5. ios5 is nothing but an incremental upgrade from the all ready 5 year old software nothing special about it what you can get Siri wow nothing special its still the same thing that apple has had for 5 years and most of all the things in ios 5 I have been doing on an android device for about 2 years now

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:39

32. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I think this added to the Biography is bound to open some wounds between fanboys in all places. I see some serious bashing going on latter

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:01

39. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

I wonder if PA is going to do a series of review on Steve's bio? That should result in all manner of flame wars between Steve's fans and H8ers. Think of what a series of reviews (and the resulting flame wars) would do for the eyeball count metrics.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:51

33. mukrenol (Posts: 92; Member since: 03 Sep 2011)

is there no chance that Schmidt had input in apple when he was on the board?
jobs is taking all credits and cannot take competitors
that's the impression of this article and of steve jobs

it's kinda sad....

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:05 3

40. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"jobs is taking all credits..."

Interesting how Steve is listed as an inventor on so many of the Apple-filed patents. There are fairly well-defined criteria for who gets credited for being an inventor. I wonder if anyone has thought of challenging the crediting of Steve as an inventor on so many inventions. I mean, the guy would have had to hire some one to do his sleeping for him (as well as other things, too) if he did all of the inventing he is credited with doing.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 03:39 2

173. UntitleD (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)

@Droid_X_Doug, This reminds me of Thomas Edison. He took all the credits on thousands of patents that came out from his firm. But most of them were creation of inventors/students in his firm.

So, the moral of the story is, get yourself a firm and hire a bunch of people to work for you LOL How screw up is our world now it seem.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:15 4

48. vijaysivakula (Posts: 224; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)

True. It seems like Steve Jobs is the only person on this planet who is inventive and creative and everyone else is an idiot. Oops. I used a word that starts with "i". Am i going to be sued now?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:56 6

35. bossmt_2 (Posts: 457; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)

Multi-touch capacitive touch screens were around long before the iPhone,

I don't think Android stole from the iPhone, I think it emulates it without a doubt. Led Zeppelin emulated a ton of blues musicians, does that make them any less great?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:07 2

42. whatevs (Posts: 18; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Companies steal from each other all the time,, through out the history of companies. But, why do android fanboys feel the need to over populate apple articles and android articles with apple-hate,,, and then bash others when they have an opinion opposite of yours??? You kiddin me with this?? Iphone baby!!

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