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Steve Jobs' desire for scratch-resistant glass is why the Apple iPhone is not Made in America

0. phoneArena posted on 22 Jan 2012, 00:12

Upset with the notion that the plastic screen envisioned for the Apple iPhone could scratch, then Apple CEO Steve Jobs discovered that the only place to get scratch-resistant glass in such short notice was the Foxconn factory in Shenzhen where 10,000 units a day could be made just 96 hours after getting the order...

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posted on 22 Jan 2012, 07:18 3

17. strident (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Jan 2012)

It's very difficult to persuade Americans (United States citizens) or any number of European's, that the world is a bigger place than our own backyard. The truth is that top brass of our big corporations neglected to provide quality, to produce what the next generation wanted, or pay attention to complaints. The Japanese gave us a shock but Detroit (to name but one symbol) did not learn or regenerate.

Neither did the public; American's responded to the Hummer in their droves and continued to burn cheap fuel without paying heed to previous crises and endless warnings.

In our School's the younger generation turned their limited attention span to games, to media, to creative and even laudable pursuits. But few continued to study mathematics, physics or the hum drum of writing the programming that drives our modern technology.

We elected a President who derided his opponents ability to speak fluent French, who followed Shakespeare by inventing words (nukular springs to mind) and who wasted the Nation's patrimony on a pointless war.

In Europe we found that the talented Blair foundered on hubris and also similarly bankrupted his economy. Now, amidst a recession caused by the greed so aptly depicted by Oliver Stone, we must ask the Chinese to buy our Bonds, rescue the supplier of London's water services and increasingly, along with the Indians, staff our Universities, Hospitals and Research Labs.

So, to those suggesting a response to the hard working, motivated and competent Asians threatening your lifestyle ..... get educated. Go to night school instead of watching the Simpsons. It's a tough world out there but it is one that looks very bright to the "exploited" factory workers in Korea, Vietnam, China, India and elsewhere.

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 09:33 2

21. tedkord (Posts: 14155; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

You completely missed the point with that rambling rant. It had nothing to do with American education or motivation. So long as labor can be had for pennies per day overseas, and governments will allow companies to pollute and treat employees as slaves, companies like Apple will continue to outsource production there.

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 12:39 1

27. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1294; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)

This is and never was about education Strident. It's about cheap labor period. Manufacturing labor never ever was about having a college degree to push a button that operated a machine like a mindless drone. NAFTA is the reason for all of this. Also politicians and corporations that have sent American manufacturing to China, and Vietnam for cheap labor.

We make NAFTA agreements with communist nations like China,and Vietnam , and we then offer American manufacturing jobs which line the leaders of these nations with American capital. They then lend us money to fund rich corporate, and politicians wars and budget woes. Corporations have learned that if a leader of a corporation like "Meg Whitman" or "Mitt Romney" goes to congress, or if they elect a "business man" he will do to the American labor force what they have been doing ever since Walmart in the early 1970's discovered that cheap Chinese labor can produce very lucrative profits. As mentioned Apple has billions of dollars off shore in taxes that they owe. You or Apple may say that that's a lot of money. I will say as CNBC pointed out that its a 38% tax rate. We pay a 38% tax rate too so don't pity Apple for paying that amount because it's a sliding scale. The more you make the more you pay proportionately. They don't pity you for making less and feel sorry for you so don't dare pity them for paying their fair share 38% is good enough for us and should be good enough for them.

My problem is they talk about being American, but fail one American tradition....paying their 38% fair share of taxes like you, and I do. As Warren Buffet says they personally pay them selves in stock and only pay 15%, but they only pay it when they withdraw stock which can be forever. This is one of the reasons why there is a budget deficit. Since the 60's the rich have paid less and less in taxes ending the golden era as they called

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 08:42 8

18. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Nokia still produce some of its phones in Finland (mostly high-end i guess), my N8 is made in Finland aswell. Apple just don't care about people (including american citizens) at all, they only care about profits.

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 09:13 4

19. tedkord (Posts: 14155; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Bullpuckey. It had nothing to do with the scratch resistance of the screen, it had to do with money. Not that Apple us any different than any other tech firm, they all outsource manufacturing to Asia, usually China, to pay workers pennies and to avoid environmental and worker rights regs.

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 11:36

24. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

yep sure its got nothing to do with money.

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 12:10 2

26. nastynaps (Posts: 93; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

Do I have to read this before I say that's why you ship s**t Steve!?

posted on 22 Jan 2012, 17:25

30. stealthd (unregistered)

I like how everyone commenting here thinks they're an economics expert that knows better than the NYT all of a sudden. If you don't have an iPhone, that Android of Windows phone was still made oversees. But it's easier to blaim Apple than to blaim the company you've already given your business to.

posted on 23 Jan 2012, 11:54

40. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1294; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)

NYT doesn't have all the answers, and they are a news column printing mostly the opinion's of the writer. Too Big to Fail was made from a news columnist from the NYT, but then look at "The Inside Job", and you can see the NYT version was skewed towards the crooks that caused the dilemma.

I don't believe that anyone is saying other companies that are doing this are any better than Apple. In fact they are all included in the same category as Apple. The exclusion of other companies being focused on in this blog is that Apple is the company that this article is focusing on.

posted on 23 Jan 2012, 01:04

37. iDroidx650 (Posts: 81; Member since: 26 May 2010)

Cost of iPhone made in China: $650
Cost of iPhone made in USA: $1200

posted on 23 Jan 2012, 07:47 2

38. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

thats the cost after their 72% profit margin mark up and suggested retail pricing for resellers. The actual cost per set might be 100-200 higher.. so like 350 a set instead of the 150 a set it costs them now for parts and labor.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 11:17

42. Numz (Posts: 34; Member since: 31 Oct 2009)

Based on this articlehttp://www.businessinsider.com/you-simply-must-read-this-article-that-explains-why-apple-makes-iphones-in-china-and-why-the-us-is-screwed-2012-1 it would cost apple $65 more to make the iPhone in America, something they could live without. It also said the real reason they’ve moved manufacturing to China is because of the supply chain and the nimbleness of the factories but it seems like they could move some of the jobs back to America, while keeping some still in China, still giving them the nimbleness of their factories there. Also if they split the manufacturing between 2 countries, it seem like they could also split the extra cost of manufacturing, so instead of $65 more for every iPhone sold it would be more like $20 - $30. Seems like these are the type of steps that would need to be made to get manufacturing back her, they are the same steps that sent the manufacturing to China to begin with.

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