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Stephen Elop says dual-, quad-core phones just waste battery life

0. phoneArena posted on 14 Mar 2012, 09:55

Nokia’s CEO Stephen Elop faces the tough task to break the Android-iOS smartphone duopoly, and if it could be done with words, these would have been the ones…

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posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:33 3

19. GENRAL.LEVY (banned) (Posts: 59; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)

U should be kicket out from nokia
useless good for nothing old agr pensioner

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:35 4

20. GENRAL.LEVY (banned) (Posts: 59; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)

Ur a bad name for the company
ur taking nokia down instead ov progressing
stephen eflop

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:39 3

22. Medel (Posts: 84; Member since: 31 May 2011)

WHY?! ELOP WHY?!!!!! D:

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:41 3

24. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Once Microsoft acquires Nokia we'll be seeing dual and quad core windows phones in no time. Elop is only there to plunge Nokia's stock to nothing so Microsoft can buy it for pennies on the dollar.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:47

26. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

dual core processors are similar to what was done with 3g and 4g. 3G battery life was gained over the many years the tech was available and improved upon. 4G in ints current form is a battery hog for any device its connected to. It wil take time to integrate 4G into one radio and optimize the tech to reduce battery life. Once that is done, 4G battery life will be better and more efficient. Basically, the same applies to processors. Although there are significant differences between 23nm versus 40nm, battery life is becoming more important than the number of cores.

Apple probably added dual cores because their OS required the extra boost as they added more features. Windows will probably do the same eventually but I would love to see them focus more on the battery life side of things than anything else. That kind of focus is what will win moving forward. New tech is great, I for one love new tech but using it for extended periods of time is very important as well.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:51 1

27. rishi_11_2002 (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)

just make better batteries... ?

posted on 15 Mar 2012, 00:33

65. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

if u want it better it has to be bigger and bigger like galaxy Nexus had latter got the option of extended battery of ~2300mah i think and it looks really big fat ugly thing if u use that battery.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 10:59 1

28. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

Dual core started just because one made a dual core moblie and others started copying "ow he made a dual core hmm i wonder perhaps it improve this pathetic Android OS lets copy " next thing all Android are Dual cores and Apple has no other option not to copy because noob people think moblie goes fast with multicore just like a PC but they forget that single core PC uses 250Watt supply and quad core requires 450+ watts supply and same goes with moblie and this is what Elop said in this post unless u all are blind to get to the point i had to post this long long post :P

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 21:06 1

58. tedkord (Posts: 14133; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

You may want to study up a bit before talking. Even on PCs, the newest quad core Intel processors use less juice than a Pentium 2 of a decade ago. PCs use more due to the other peripherals - massive graphics cards to push HD video, 30 USB ports, HD sound card, etc...

posted on 15 Mar 2012, 00:28

64. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

i don't need to study this is my field so stop telling me what companies say i know better. if that is the case old mobiles used hardly 200-800mah batteries and now all smartphones uses 1300+ and dual core requires even more and don't run longer than 2 days hardly where is the energy efficiency in that if you want to read and believe its your problem,and go check out if old 250 watt supplies work with stock corei5 or i7 systems it will go down in a day it is always minimum for them to use 450watts regardless of Gfx cards or other things get facts right not just theory.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 11:23 3

29. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Funny thing is that Windows Phone was actually "smoked" in it's own game by Nokia 808 PureView prototype, based on "dead" Symbian... http://tinyurl.com/82vmgmt

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 11:25 2

30. alfadolla (Posts: 28; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)

Wow.... Nokia CEO has jumped the shark with this one! Did he actually see the Smoked by Windows Phone campaign, the guys windows phone is not actually faster but happen too have pre determined points and location pinned too his phone home screen! that is how he beats the other phones.. I have a windows phone & Andriod phone and the windows phone is very slow compared to my Evo 3D. It's like taking a test and having all the answers given too you before you start.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 11:38 1

33. JSern (Posts: 282; Member since: 22 May 2011)

Pics or it didn't happen

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 11:39 2

35. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

That was kind of the point of the whole campaign. WP was designed to get to social networking sites, find places to eat, sleep watch movies, get to your emails, get to searching the web, and all kinds of everyday activities faster and with less hassle. Neither iPhone or Android has really made these things easier. Sure, there were shortcuts. WP is designed that way, and that is the hook they are selling.

Not an Anti-Android or anti-iPhone comment, just stating one of the major design advantages to WP.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 21:08 1

59. tedkord (Posts: 14133; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Well, I can put any shortcut I want on my Android device homescreen. In fact, I can access any 4 commonly used apps or shortcuts I wish directly from my lockscreen. If I knew ahead of time what needed accessing, I could set up my phone to have them all at a single touch, too.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 11:33 2

31. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

WP should have released 2nd gen devices with dual core. Period, end of story. I love me some WP, but Apollo will use dual core tech, Hi res screens, and all the fun toys that consumers enjoy in their top end devices. By not including dual core, it provides sales reps, tech sites, and all those placards beneath the phones in the huge electronic stores in the world with reason to belittle WP devices. Is the performance of any current WP behind on any Android or the iPhone? Nope. But, WP does not have the built in consumer base that those two have. Heck, WP does smoke Blackberry in every catagory of performance and they are having no luck catching them. The dual core would not have hurt, and would have helped them look up to tech with the big boys.

As for Mr. Elop, what did you expect him to say? If you do not have it, talk it down and pump up yours. He himself said right after Nokia World "WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE OUR PHONES ON APOLLO!!!" Bet those dual core processors are great in Q4 of this year.....

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 11:36

32. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

Elop need some serious training from Microsoft

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 12:10 3

38. MickDM (Posts: 63; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

vh, from elop's point of view he is absolutely correct... his company's lumia line is both snappy & frugal on battery consumption... all with only single core processing... in fact, when compared to other top smartphones, it not only holds its own, but, more times than not, beats the multicore models in speed tests... again, with only single core technology and outstanding battery life... ijs :)

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 13:28

42. gammaSharma (Posts: 33; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)

Is He Stupid or something. It has been proven "Mathematically" that dual core eats up less juice than single ones. Ask Seldon.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 13:54 1

43. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

"The bold statement of Nokia’s head is “proved” by the Smoked by Windows Phone campaign, where random users with iPhones and Androids try to do something with their phones and end up doing it slower than it’s done on Nokia Windows Phones. Nokia offered $160 to people that can beat their Windows Phone devices in the challenge and reportedly it never lost." -- from this article.

I'm afraid you are mistaken. I watched the Smoked by WP campaign videos and read the articles. WP did lose twice. Get your facts straight.

People taking the challenge are at a disadvantage. The reason is the person with the WP likely knew what the challenges were while the people who took the challenges did not before hand. It's an unfair challenge.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 14:57

46. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

Again, totally disagree. At every challenge, there was a posted list what the challenges were. So every user had a chance to look over the challenges before agreeing. And as I pointed out earlier, these aren't challenges that are unique to WP. They are everyday functions that all smartphones should be doing. It is a challenge design to show how quick and easy it is to do what people love to do on a Windows Phone. It is a great advertising idea.

However, you are right. They have continued to do these challenges out on the road since they started, and they have lost from time to time in these challenges.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 21:25

62. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

I wasn't aware of the posted list. Do you know where I can find it? I wasn't able to Google it. I'd like to know what those challenges are.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 14:09 1

44. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

How about everyone at Nokia and Microsoft just shut up with the stupid comments until they put out a product that people really want to buy!

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 14:34

45. Dujai R. (Posts: 17; Member since: 12 Oct 2009)

But If You Look Closely, LeBron Traveled.................

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 15:01

47. Leo_MC (Posts: 2689; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

The last comment on Facebook needed 6 cores to be posted, 3 cores were used to send a mail, 2 for a sms, 1 core to play my ringtone and the last core to write this reply...

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 16:12

48. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

"3 cores were used to send a mail, 2 for a sms, 1 core to play my ringtone and the last core to write this reply..."

that means seven?

3+2+1+last core(which is another 1 core)?

posted on 15 Mar 2012, 07:29

67. Leo_MC (Posts: 2689; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Without 150,479 cores a phone is useless.
It doesn't matter that one use it to post crap on Facebook, "oh, it's not 150k cores, it's a piece of shi*t!"

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 17:43

51. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

May God help Nokia! Elop, you've just created more enemies than friends and fooked up the whole WP campaign.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 17:57 1

52. RiseAgainst94 (Posts: 281; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)

Before we start hating too much, dual cores are only good for so much as of right now. Namely high end games and the ability for 1080p video recording. The fact that Windows' strictly single-core line up is faster in almost every way to it's competition is something to be said. But yes, Windows WILL need dual core processors and don't think that Nokia won't release one when Apollo comes out.

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 18:39 1

53. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

Wow once again this moron is talking out of his ass.

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