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Sprint sets one day sales record thanks to Apple iPhone 4S, AT&T activation mark falls

0. phoneArena posted on 15 Oct 2011, 15:01

Sprint on Friday broke its record for sales in one day thanks to the carrier being able to offer the Apple iPhone 4S and iPhone 4 to its customers; meanwhile, over at AT&T, records were also set for the most activations in one day...

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posted on 15 Oct 2011, 16:40 2

41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

And here fandroids go again using friends and family as proof in arguments which no one can verify.

I have 8 friends who just got the iPhone 4S and they got promotions at work because their bosses were so impressed with their intelligent choices.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 19:06 1

58. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Why does that bother you so much? Did it ever occur to you tba maybe some Android users tell stories about their friends and families because they don't use iphones themselves? Why is that such a bad thing?

But I personally experienced something similar. it took over 6 hours for me to update my ipad to ios 5. If that were my phone I would probably be pissed so thank goodness it was just my iPad. So hopefully this will all be corrected once were able to do ota update.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 20:23 4

65. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

I had a classmate that bricked his i4 doing the iOS update and I had another that had no issue.
Taco, its well documented that older iphone users were having issues with the update to iOS5. Try informing yourself before talking.

posted on 16 Oct 2011, 20:34

105. dan323 (Posts: 3; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)

I have a iphone 3gs and it is true it took multiple trys before I was able to get ios5 to update. But this thread is funny. Everyone has their own taste,some like hamburgers and some like hot dogs. If the phone does what you want it to do then nothing else matters. I have apps that are very important to me and not all can be found on android yet. My Son recently changed from an iphone to the SGS2 and he loves it. The phone does what he wants it to do,as my 3gs does what I want it to do. But carry on I am enjoying the reading.

posted on 16 Oct 2011, 20:27

104. dan323 (Posts: 3; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)

Thats Funny

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 16:19 1

30. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

ok, in fairness this is a pro-iphone video:
Apple lovers video:

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 16:38 1

40. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Well guys just as I predicted the iPhone is breaking records. It feels good to have reality back you up. Now watch android market share take a hit.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 17:28 1

44. Alantef (Posts: 288; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)

how is Google gonna take a hit???....so i guess no one is waiting for the prime and other android devices?....and we are just talking about sprint right? Verizon, at&t and t mobile aren't gonna sale more android devices than apple for the rest of the year ????

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 17:43 3

45. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

We'll get back to you in a couple of months when the numbers come back and Android is still number one. :)

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 18:36 1

50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Hey that's the great thing about facts. If I'm wrong the facts will prove it. I believe android market share will go down.

Alan no one other than tech geeks cares about the prime.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 17:49

47. Problems 123 (unregistered)

I see problems down the road as well as new tech. First off the problems: IOS 5 has very similar things to todays android phones. For example the new notification system on IOS 5 is just like androids, so I can see google using this as part of there plan to stop apple from suing, and google will use this to sue apple back.

The good: iphones 4s has nothing mind blowing or revolutionary, siring is ok, but many high end android users already have this system in the form of clinging or voice search, it might not talk back but it does what you tell it to do. Since the new iphones made outstanding sales, creating competition with android and other platforms (although apple doesn't like that apparently)

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 17:50 4

48. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Literally the only reasons I've been getting from people who have been getting the iPhone 4S are "it's got Siri" or "I have an iPhone and love it and will never try anything else but an iPhone no matter how awesome it is, baa baa" and once "I tried this crappy old Samsung Android phone and am never willing to try Android again no matter how awesome it is."

One kid had an iPhone 4 and was only getting the 4S because his dad insisted on it. I showed the guy the SGS2 and the Atrix and he liked both way better.

None of them had ever tried out a serious Android offering before. None of them cared about the dozens of advantages that Android offered. This is the reality. Apple did a perfect job of marketing. Now they'll rake in their billions while they're being worshipped by their starstruck fans.

But we still sold plenty of Android phones today. :)

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 18:41 2

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Another failure of a day in your pathetic life trying to talk people into buying something they don't want because YOU like it better.

All those are valid reasons

I like Apple products

I've tried android and it sucked

I want to get Siri

That's what you don't get. Android isn't better just because you like it better. Not everyone wants to hack their phone just to get it to work right.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 18:48 2

54. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Again you exaggerate. I've never had to root any of my phones. And most others don't either.

And how was YOUR day, Taco? My day was really good. Just shaking my head at how retarded some people are. Am I a failure if I successfully steer all but the really brand loyal people away from the iPhone?

At least I try to offer people something different so they can make an informed decision.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 20:25 3

66. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

being able to steer people is the sign of a good salesman last I checked. Taco, you should get a job, then you might understand what being a good employee is :0

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 21:15 1

71. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

Just like remixfa telling the world he know US GAAP and how RD expenses belong in gross margins.

remixfa, you are such the villiage idiot.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 21:27

72. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

sniggly, you like to put your foot in your mouth and you are doing it again.

The Atrix bombed because you can get fingerprints off the screen and thus override the biometric secuirty feature. Did you tell the Dad that simple point? Do you know what I am talking about? Why did you think Motorola eliminated the biometric feature in the Atrix 2 (maybe it had to do with a security/design flaw).

Also, the Atrix bombed as a PC replacement.

BTW, I tried the stocked Andriod that came with the Motorola Triumph and I wasn't impressed plus the battery life sucks. I am only keeping it since I get unlimited 3G of data from Virgin for $25 a month.

Lastly, lots of the android sold are bargain basement phones.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 22:21 3

75. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Every security feature has workarounds, Ardent. Your average village idiot isn't going to figure out the fingerprint on screen bulls**t. And for me it's a quick and convenient way to lock my phone.

Anyway, I wasn't selling him on the fingerprint feature. I was selling him on the fact that it's a damn good smartphone with great features for a quarter of the price of a 16 gigabyte iPhone 4/S.

And besides, you're going to judge Android on the Triumph? In some ways it's okay, but it has one of the weakest batteries you'll find in a smartphone. If you're going to judge stock Android check out a Nexus S. Smooth running phone, lemme tell ya.

My original point was that I am not a clerk. I am a salesman. I am there to inform and educate, and if I believe that better options exist for the price, I'm going to present them. And if someone tries Android, like really tries it without the bias of "it's not an iPhone," and doesn't like it, fine. Okay. But to me it's frustrating to see people who are so willing to walk into the pen and pull the gate shut and lock it on themselves, without even checking out the pasture.

posted on 16 Oct 2011, 16:48

94. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

"Anyway, I wasn't selling him on the fingerprint feature."
Because you didn't want to tell the guy his phone can be compromised. Yes, we understand this very well that fact might case the person NOT to buy the Atrix. You just want to make a sale -- look up the word "UNCTUOUS" because that describes you to a T. Like I said that is why that feature was removed on the Atrix 2.

"I was selling him on the fact that it's a damn good smartphone with great features for a quarter of the price of a 16 gigabyte iPhone 4/S."
Did you also tell him the iPhone 4/S tend to higher resale values, other things being equal, than compared to non-iPhones?

"And besides, you're going to judge Android on the Triumph?"
I spent $300 on the Triumph because it has stock android, meaning it's the purest android I can test without being biased to a manfucture's own software running on top of android. Plus I got 300 minutes and unlimited 3G data all for $25 a month. The unlimited 3G data is a great deal.

"My original point was that I am not a clerk. I am a salesman. I am there to inform and educate"
You are trying to advance your own agenda, your own propaganda and you tend to put your foot in your mouth. If you can advance your own agenda, then so can I or anyone else that disagrees with YOU!!!

Remember this sniggly, when I first corrected your posts for mistaken, you responded by calling me names and trying to intimidate me. Guess what, you reap what you sow!! I am a very good fact checker.

Do you still remember your post: "you've just committed a critical error. Apple has made exactly one patent payment in the mobile industry in the past several years, which was to Nokia, and only after a dragged out lawsuit. They have flatly refused to pay anyone else who has brought patents to bear against them, the biggest offense being their refusal to pay anything to Motorola. Hence the lawsuits against them."

That is the kind of bullsh*t you like to spew or what I have been referring to as putting your foot in your mouth. I have been reading and researching Apple's lawsuits and it's not easy to get accurate results. But when I pointed out Apple has won and lose IP lawsuits, you went ballastic. sniggly, people like you like fiction over fact. In contrast, people like me are FACT BASED.

posted on 16 Oct 2011, 18:04

101. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Sniggly also claimed Apple sued Motorola first until I proved him wrong

Sniggly automatically believes anything negative about Apple with zero fact checking.

posted on 17 Oct 2011, 00:08

108. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Hi Taco. Would you really like me to troll old posts for all the times you've been wrong? Because I would go over the character limit with even a brief synopsis of your wrongness.

Yes, I can be wrong. This is not news. But what makes me the better person here is that if I am wrong, I admit it, whereas YOU will simply shut up on the subject.

So I'll leave you with this to chew on: 52 percent.

posted on 16 Oct 2011, 19:31 1

103. cnwwyo (Posts: 126; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Looks like somebody wants a job...lol , anybody lookin for a "really good fact checker"? loooooooool

posted on 17 Oct 2011, 00:06

107. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Riddle me this, Ardent: how come, when I google for issues with the Atrix fingerprint scanner, nothing comes up about being able to fool it in the way you described? All articles I found about fingerprint scanners being fooled pertained to laptops. If you can provide an article which gives proof that Motorola removed that feature from the Atrix for the reason you stated, that'd be awesome.

Secondly, I'm insulted that you would accuse me of dishonesty as a salesman. You don't know me, you don't watch me sell. I'm actually too honest for my own good sometimes. I will make sure the customer knows everything they need to know. If you prove that hacking the Atrix is such a widespread issue, instead of pulling conjecture out of your ass, then I will stop pointing out the fingerprint scanner as a feature and instead focus more on PIN or pattern locks.

Understand this, Ardent: I'm also a very good fact checker. If I'm wrong, I admit it. This is more than I can say for you. Whenever I've proven you wrong or clarified my original meaning, you up and disappear. There are a few occasions where I have said, clear as day, "huh. I was wrong about that." When's the last time you've had the goddamn grace to stop being a bitter, hateful son of a bitch, man up, and do the same?

The dispute over Apple's lawsuits was a good example of this. I clarified that I was talking about patent disputes related to the iPhone, and my overarching point was that it takes drawn out legal battles for Apple to pay anyone else for their IP related to the iPhone, but god forbid anyone else in the market use a touchscreen that has pinch to zoom. Did you recognize my clarification? Nooope.

Furthermore, I'll grant you seem to like to make sure facts are straight, but from post one every time you come in you start off with this hateful, bitter attitude toward me. You can't f**king stand the idea that I post here, it seems. I have no problem with people disputing what I have to say, that's fine. But when you're a pretentious asshole about it, insulting my intelligence, my record of posting facts, and most of all my PERSONAL FU.CKING INTEGRITY, yes, you're going to piss me off.

So will you be a man and respond this time, or conveniently ignore my post AGAIN?

posted on 17 Oct 2011, 01:22

113. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

One more thing, Ardent:

I get that Virgin is a *great deal,* although you seem to be pushing it an awful lot. However, there are other phones out there with a pure Android experience (and a BETTER one at that). What makes me think so? The weaksauce battery on the Triumph for one, and the fact that it's STILL f**kING RUNNING FROYO. I mean, if you're going to judge all pure Android on one phone, why not go and pick up a G1, for Chrissakes?

The fact remains that the best phone to judge pure Android on remains the Nexus S. Despite being out of date spec wise, I've seen it run really well, and customers love it. It has a stronger battery, more solid design, and it's running Gingerbread, which in my very honest opinion is the best version of Android ever released.

posted on 17 Oct 2011, 03:15

119. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

By the way,

In this article right here:


We have an example of exactly what I'm talking about. In this article you made the clear claim that Google had lost its lawsuit against Oracle, when in fact...


The case has yet to actually go to trial, Oracle's damage claims were dismissed, and last we heard the two companies were trying to reach a settlement agreement.

Yet when I pointed this out to you, you vanished completely, only to pop up in another article down the road.

So much for being a great fact checker.

posted on 17 Oct 2011, 10:47 1

120. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

Agreed Sniggly. I may prefer iPhone, but I do not go around saying that iPhone is the best and will work for everyone. Anyone that comes to me with the question, "What device should I get?" It's never a simple, "Android" or "iPhone". It's, "What are your needs?" As a Systems Engineer, it's about feeling out what the customer wants, not biasing your thoughts and opinions first, and then TELLING them what THEY need.

posted on 17 Oct 2011, 10:54

121. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Right you are, and for the people who have absolutely insisted on the iPhone, I only give them kind of an "are you absolutely sure you wouldn't like to see something else just for grins and giggles?" before complying and getting them set up on an iPhone.

posted on 16 Oct 2011, 12:05 1

83. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)

Voice recognition of this type is nothing new. I've actually been using Vlingo on Android for awhile now. It is really intuitive. Siri definitely advances on the voice recognition platform. It's impressive. But as I said earlier, Google, Vlingo and third party app developers, will leapfrog Siri. That's what technology does.

John B.

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 18:46 2

52. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

Now that jobs is no longer, the isheep are lost and confused don't worry isheep android will take care of you lol taco is going to be the first in line

posted on 15 Oct 2011, 19:58

61. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Othe OEMs and OSs can definintly smell the blood in the water. Steve Jobs was so involved in every product that his persona became part of the company. The next two products will be record breakers as well, because they will still carry part of the SJ seal of approval. But the next two devices (iPhone 6 and 6S) will be a crossroads for Apple in the mobile industry.

If Tim Cook can guide product development with Steve Jobs-like innovation while still adding bits of what Android users are looking for (bigger screens, form factors, customization) they will eventually overthrow Android. If not, Google is going to blow up even more then it already is and start pilfering some of Apple's marketshare as well. Especially since they have pissed of and sued just about any and every ally they've had. Tim Cook is going to be tested by everyone from suppliers, manufactures, and even the iOS loyalists. So he better have the nads to make Apple HIS. Cause I'm NOT going back to PCs!

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