So it begins: these three new smartphones do not have 3.5 mm headphone jacks

It'd be understandable if you haven't heard much about a smartphone maker that goes by the name LeEco. It's a large tech brand in China, formerly known as LeTV, which currently has a couple of phones bound for US markets, but doesn't seem to have any stable footing in the West as of yet. It has, however, managed to get itself noticed on a couple of occasions — by openly calling Apple a Nazi opressor, by launching a "bezel-less superphone", which very much had a bezel, and by trying to be an industry first on a couple of occasions — the LeTV One, One Pro, and LeTV Max were the first smartphones with USB Type-C data ports, while the LeTV Le Max Pro was the first announced (note: not launched) smartphone to bear Qualcomm's latest-and-greatest Snapdragon 820 chipset.
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95 Comments

1. Youraveragejoe

Posts: 134; Member since: Oct 31, 2014

This is actually a good step. A single port for everything, i.e charging, headphones and data transfer.

6. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Not necessarily. It has its cons. 1. You can't listen to music while you're charging your phone and vice versa. 2. Someone like me who connects his phone to car charging doc and auxiliary (to listen to music) can't do that anymore as there's only one port. 3. The industry standard is 3.5mm audio jack so you'll struggle to find any decent headphones which would connect to a charging port. Even if you did find them they'll be priced higher. And lets say they somehow come out with a converter of sorts, it will only add to bulk of cable.

10. MrHate

Posts: 318; Member since: Feb 09, 2015

1. Bluetooth headphones (And I'm sure if Apple would really remove the headphone jack they would for example ship with bluetooth headphones) 2. Most cars should also have Bluetooth 3. If enough phone makers (especially Apple and Samsung) ditch the headphone jack believe me that many manufacturers will hop on the bluetooth headphone train to get all the customers who need bluetooth headphones.

14. romeo1

Posts: 816; Member since: Jan 06, 2012

1,2 and 3 bluetooth is nowhere near the quality of auxiliary. Ldac from sony is at max 990kbps if im correct. The rest (aptx, a2dp) don't even come close. Cd quality is around 1.4mbps

17. MrHate

Posts: 318; Member since: Feb 09, 2015

It's not like a lot of people use high quality headphones for their phones and would be able to tell the difference between 120 kbps and 700 kbps with their 20.. or 5 bucks earphones. And if you go to the high end headphones there are quite a few good ones available that will offer a really great sound quality.

48. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

I have a high end car audio system as well as senheiser headset thats worth like 400$ so i dont want crap bluetooth.

90. romeo1

Posts: 816; Member since: Jan 06, 2012

For those people it won't matter ofcourse. But wireless is nowhere near wired. The best bt dont hold a candle against good 100-200 euro headphones

74. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

That's why you only use Bluetooth while charging the phone.

91. romeo1

Posts: 816; Member since: Jan 06, 2012

That's a pretty bad "solution" to a problem that shouldn't even been there in the 1st place.

40. torr310

Posts: 1661; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Using bluetooth headphones, so one more thing to charge? You could've forgotten charging your bluetooth but the wired headphones dont have this.problem.

46. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Bluetooth quality suck ass compared to wired connection ( and yes i listen to high fidelity audio ) Car bluetooth are not very good at best.. see first sentence.

75. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

You will still have a wired option dude. They were just saying you can use Bluetooth while charging.

82. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Most cars do not have bluetooth. At present based on the numbers, the most cars on the street are from 2010 and backwards. between After that, the only cars with such were luxury brands for the most part. Which means the vast majority of peopel dont own such brands...IN ANY COUNTRY. Most cars that come with BT were more prominent after 2012. My 2010 car did not support BT, so I bought one that uses the car radio. Now you could also buy car stereos that supported BT. But most cars with it, in the mid-ranged lines started in roughly 2011/2012 model years. LOOK IT UP. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26459737/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/bluetooth-gets-place-car-not-just-ear/#.Vxf3VTArKUk

94. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Mine is Ford Fiesta 2013 edition (1.6 zetec) and even that doesn't have bluetooth. Its a mid-range model. Apparently, the're still not that prominent.

16. MSi_Cubi unregistered

There's gonna be hell of lot micro/c usb to 3.5 jack adapters...

21. 2.5GHz

Posts: 270; Member since: Apr 03, 2016

Which will cost you what you do need to spend, if you own a phone with a 3.5mm headphone jack.

28. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

You can't just have adapter from USB to 3.5 jack, you have to convert digital signal to analog first and good DACs aren't small

68. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

There would be and I even made that clear in my point but doing that would add considerable heft to your otherwise slim audio jack cable. Not to mention 'another thing' to carry and be mindful of. My point being, the added heft will certainly not board well with lets say someone who use their wired headphones while jogging as it may keep falling off due to added heft.

20. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Adaptors don't have to had to the bulk of the cable. This isn't a headphone adaptor but it's a fine example of my statement. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Connector-Resistor-Approved-Standard/dp/B0151RKYBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461150330&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+c+to+micro+usb You claim there aren't many decent headphone that use the charging port, I doubt that and even if it was true, it would quickly change once Apple releases the iP7. And what phone dock doesn't play music though the charging port?

25. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Adaptors don't have to add to the bulk of the cable**********

50. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Why would i spend another 400$ on a new pair of headset when mine work fine? I also wont change my car for fun. So any phone whitout 3.5 mm jack i wont buy end of the story.

69. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Why would you spend $400 on a wired Headset anyway lol.

22. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I forgot to say, that you aren't suppose to use your phone when its on the charger even if its just for music.

32. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Wouldn't be changing that habit just 'cause someone says so. I use my OnePlus One for GPS navigation and in-car infotainment, outputting it's directions and media audio through the 3.5 mm audio Jack and calls through Bluetooth, all of that while it's simultaneously charging. Would never buy a phone that ditches the standard 3.5mm audio jack just for the sake of ditching it.

45. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

You are destroying your battery bruh.

83. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

It seems to be doing better (in terms of SOT) than it was with KitKat back in 2014. With KitKat, got the following: https://db.tt/FoiGBGRu https://db.tt/Bc5hhnET https://db.tt/cVQp6vZh SOT:https://db.tt/eFpupsY2 With MarshMallow, now I'm getting the following even though the WiFi is clearly using much more battery than it should, imagine how much longer it'll be once that bug is fixed: https://db.tt/5tYNJFLf https://db.tt/8XFbghkW https://db.tt/UPcO5TnB https://db.tt/PrCPXK0Q https://db.tt/kKWkQcGz SOT:https://db.tt/9kQB8lPI TLDR: What kills it seems to be making it more alive ;)

95. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

That's pretty badass. Rooted ?

96. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Yup, mostly for Xposed + XPrivacy.

71. aho13

Posts: 97; Member since: Sep 10, 2014

a hundred like for the last sentence , if there is a need to remove the 3.5 jack , then maybe I think about it ,but just for the sake of making a thinner phone is really for people who cares about looks and nothing else . removing a feature like IR or 3.5 jack or microsd or any other hardware is just pointless , what advantage do we get for removing the 3.5 jack ! thinner phone ! what for ? smartphone thickness is really good enough and I think phones should get a little thicker like 2 or 3 years ago to add more grip and battery life . I think if apple did make this step too there is a lot of people who will follow . simplicity is good but not for me . it is just for the millions who don't care , they already have cars with navi , and infotainment with online services and never use cables , maybe it makes more sense if they remove all ports adding wireless charging , maybe this concept makes more sense , a phone without cables .

51. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Dont care if supposed or not i want to do it as i change phone every 6 to 12 month max anyway.
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