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Smartphones projected to as 28% of handsets sold this year, Nokia the big loser of Q1

0. phoneArena posted on 27 Jul 2011, 14:06

Smartphones are continuing their ascension, there's no question about that, but market research and consultancy firm IMS Research is now claiming that smartphones will be 28% of all handsets sold this year...

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posted on 27 Jul 2011, 15:37 1

1. christianqwerty (Posts: 467; Member since: 05 May 2011)

I really want Blackberry and Palm to make a come back!!!!

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 15:45 2

2. jthiagesan (Posts: 104; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)

nokia will keep losing the market if they dont provide good hardware and OS.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 15:53

5. donpeppino9 (Posts: 67; Member since: 24 Jan 2010)

nokia makes good hardware, i think. they just need a more modern OS with lots of apps! hopefully they will make a phone with the E series form factor and windows 7... that would be a winner in my book!

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 16:09

6. Viper (unregistered)

As you said..Nokia makes good hardware but needs a good os..i see that Meego on n900 was a good os..isn't it??but i don't know why we didn't see it on another phone.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:56

16. CellGrave (unregistered)

It is not just cosmetic hardware which counts, internal hardware and software compliment the outer looks. Unfortunately Nokia’s greed to supply the thirsty market took them down. They opened lots of manufacturing plants and I am seeing new countries being added to the already long list. I doubt if the new plants have the same quality control which Nokia had year ago. People are starting to realize that new Nokia’s fall behind in terms of quality and usability. If they only concentrate on quality low end cell phones, I am sure they will not lose their position anytime soon and eventually launch their new WP7 smart-phones.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 16:34 1

9. me. (Posts: 28; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)

I like Nokia, specially small features like automatically changes the ringtone and volume in evening or night times, weekend home screen etc. I have 7 screens on my current phone with a bunch of icons on it but a small feature like the auto brightness does not work.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 15:46 2

3. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)

hhmm i would understand BB but why palm??

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 15:48 5

4. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

"Nokia the big loser of Q1". Like I said before "the hate is getting pretty obvious" and it's not even funny. Can we just keep it professional!!

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 20:32 1

20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

They stated a fact. They lost a huge amount of market share. Don't see anything unprofessional.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 16:32 2

7. CLINTONW25 (Posts: 38; Member since: 14 Jun 2011)

i just dont understand why phonearena hate nokia so much smdh.....

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 20:41

22. checkmeda (unregistered)

becous phonearena geting more money nad more profit

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 16:33 2

8. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Steve Ballmer and Stephen Elop are in cahoots to bring Nokia down, for a Microsoft buyout. Why bring out the N9 and tell buyers don't expect much support from us on this thing? And why dump two OS's, one that was never given a real chance, in favor of an OS that hit the market with a big thud!?

If Elop really wanted Nokia to succeed, he would have kept Meego and SERIOUSLY considered Android along with WP7. Not saying it had to be Android, but they should have considered it. But I guess they didn't want to eat their old CEO's words about Android.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:58 1

17. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

I understand what you mean, but trust me they know what they are doing. They needed an OS that´s fully supported, new, fresh, and also that would help them reduce costs. Just look at what MS is doing with WP7 and all these updates and new features. Do you think Nokia would have achieved all that in a short amount of time? I dont think so. They considered Android as an option but it didn´t work out for them and I´m glad it was that way so that we can have more options on the market.

Elop might seem a troyan hourse, but if you start analyzing the strategy very carefully, you´ll realize that it was the right decision. What I personally don´t like is that they are ditching Meego. But let´s just hope everything comes right and that Nokia succeed.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 19:25 1

19. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

I hope your right because I love Nokia phones. Even though they neglected the CDMA market (VZW all the way!) in the past, I would love to see a something special come out of Finland that I could get excited about. I'm not a fan of Windows anything, but if it's made by Nokia, I would consider it.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 16:53

10. joe (unregistered)

How Is nokia that high up in the smartphone market? I don't see anyone with Nokia phones anymore or any Nokia news on websites. I haven't even seen any commercials.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:02

11. AST3R1X2545 (Posts: 4; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

Nokia may not have a big presents in the US but it was king in the rest of the world (but then Steven Elop came on the scene)

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:06

13. me. (Posts: 28; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)

Oversea. People pay there $400-$500 for nokia smartphones

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:38

15. remyrz (Posts: 205; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)

I still have my n900 man.. one of the greatest!

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:04

12. AST3R1X2545 (Posts: 4; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

Nokia should of stuck to their plan to make a transition from symbian to meego (both home grown OSes that they had full control of and had to pay no royalties to external companies) instead of going the path of WP7

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 17:36 1

14. remyrz (Posts: 205; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)


posted on 29 Jul 2011, 20:51

31. checkmeda (unregistered)

but you dont get much more futer in samsung becuse nokia having everthing u will get but ex android not saport data transfer message calender notes and u dont get miltitask and main android camera phone dont get flash and u will get only singal flash nokia was easy opreting and u have pc or laptap u can use in modem type use without cabel or with cabel u have wifi opption just download joikuspot apps u will get much more opption

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 18:06 2

18. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

It took samsung 1 year and pretty much just 1 phone (the galaxyS) to almost catch up to what has taken apple nearly 5 years to do in market share. Concidering the SGS2 hasnt been sold in america yet and is already one of the worlds hottest phones, I cant wait to see what next year looks like.

The beauty of android and competition.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 20:34

21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

I hope you realize samsung sells a lot more than just 1 smartphone. Why do you look up so much to Apple that you compare everyone to them? You know what they say. Emulation is the biggest form of flattery.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 23:49

27. jura21 (Posts: 30; Member since: 20 Jun 2011)

but u may say that samsung's reputation as a smartphone manufacturer surged upon the good reviews of galaxy S......u cant say that their omnia 7 boosted sales...but i do agree.....several mid ranged phones like galaxy ace and galaxy 3 did contribute a lot

posted on 28 Jul 2011, 10:36

30. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

They contributed, but not a lot. Before the galaxyS thats all they had was omnia's and Ace's and beholds.. all which were kinda crappy. That would be that miniscule number from the year before. The only major difference in the line up was the addition of the GalaxyS. Which as a sales rep, i can tell you cannibalized sales of every other phone. I've probably sold 5x more galaxyS's than any other phone this year and more than most of them combined.

Is that why iOS5 is such a direct copy of android 2.1? :) Thats flattering for sure. As you like to mention, the iPhone is the single device sales leader. The only single phone that is keeping up with it is the GalaxyS.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 21:00 1

23. dandirk (unregistered)

Nokia just got caught sleeping.... just like bb. They did not predict the app/touchscreen/3g revolution.

I honestly dont think the market can handle more then 3 platforms. Especially the us market. They had to choose... taken down ms or join one of the top 3.

They made the right choice i think. No matter what they will be ok. They do own a vast majority of mobile patents.

posted on 27 Jul 2011, 22:11

25. shannbholla (unregistered)


posted on 27 Jul 2011, 23:44

26. jura21 (Posts: 30; Member since: 20 Jun 2011)

i hate to say this..but nokia never updates old products once they roll out a new product......i had several nokias in the past....

the ngage never had an update
the n81 had only 1 major update
the 5800 had a terribly flawed firmware upon release which has been fixed over 2 yrs time,but still doesnt match iphone3g with which it was intended to compete.

all these gave me no choice but to switch my device manufacturer to samsung.

posted on 28 Jul 2011, 07:04

29. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

Actually, you're wrong Nokia do update their old products, just go to Nokia.com and you'll tons of updates for the old models. I think there are like 5 updates for the Nokia 5800.

posted on 28 Jul 2011, 00:41

28. John (unregistered)

Samung hats off keep going and dont care about the word copy cats,galaxy s2 is rocking and retina is look like garbage infront of sa plus,i bet samsung have one of the best screen in the world

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