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Samsung's 2010 document says Galaxy S would be better if it were more like the Apple iPhone

0. phoneArena posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:38

Apple has placed a 2010 document from Samsung into evidence, all 132 pages of it; the document is translated from Korean and compares the Samsung Galaxy S with the Apple iPhone as engineers write that the Galaxy S needs to be more like the iPhone...

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posted on 08 Aug 2012, 02:11 1

72. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)

whatever dude

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 13:14

110. willard12 (unregistered)

You have 2 sides competing, Samsung wanted to make a device better than the iPhone and looked at all aspects of the iPhone to make its product better. All apple is presenting are reasons they think the Galaxy S should be banned. If apple wants to ban the Galaxy S, I think Samsung can live with that.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:58 2

67. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)

I'll admit that the first Galaxy S phones where very iPhone like in look and feel because of the TouchWiz UI. But, now we're on the Galaxy S3 which is nothing like the iPhone, in fact it's more like an HTC Android device.

Because Apple keeps bringing up Samsung's older products, I think they're only going to get monetary compensation for those. I don't think that they'll be awarded an injunction on Samsung's newer products.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 04:30

83. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Of course they copied, you dimwit.
It's the way product development works - evaluating the competitors and implementing good things they come up with.
Everybody is

Apple's case here is that Samsung directly harmed Apple by making customers buy their products because of their iPhone-ish look and behaviour.

This is simply NOT the case because every next iPhone release smashed previous sales records.
Demand for iPhones increased multiple times since the release of the S1.

The likely verdict will be that Samsung copied, but Apple doesn't have a base for damages.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 04:52

87. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

..I wanted to say, everybody is doing it yet Apple is the only one whining about it.

Again, it's not whether Samsung copied it, but how much it has to do with their success.

People weren't buying galaxy s because it looks and feels like the iPhone.
Touch wiz and design of the phone were never praised as advantages compared to other android competition.

Galaxy came on top because of its superior specs, and performance.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 08:05 1

95. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)

thats what you get for reading these little blurbs instead of actually reading transcripts of whats happening in court. These PA articles make it look like its a slam dunk case. The transcripts show Samsung's lawyers eating Apple's over paid witnesses for breakfast. The 2 big witnesses have both been shredded by Samsung's defense so far and have looked very weak by the end of disposition.
If Apple cant do the same to Samsung's "experts", then the case is very strongly in Samsung's favor.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 17:30 1

113. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Apple copy SONY's PROTOTYPE to get the design and also pays the EXPERT WITNESS 75,000$ to take the stand.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 17:48 1

114. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Do you ALSO realize that APPLE COPIED SONY prototype to get the idea for their iPhone? No guess not. and also they PAY THE KEY WITNESS 75,000$.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:52 16

3. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

thumbs me down samsung people but the truth will prevail!


im not even that huge fan of apple products.. i just feel elite around iDevices.. while on samsung, i feel so cheap(no offense but the only asian tech product i like the most is asus.. i like samsung's appliance not phones!)

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:58 4

11. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)

"thumbs me down samsung people but the truth will prevail!"

indeed it will LOL...but truth and facts are two separate things unfortunately

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:02 5

14. Savage (unregistered)

Will you let it rest with that 'iPhones make me feel elite' thingy? You don't buy a smartphone for using it as a status symbol.

And your comment's first part is true.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:28 3

29. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

but for me... an apple product is a status symbol... sorry! :)

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 03:16 1

74. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

You know what my status symbol is? My house. So enjoy the 1 bedroom apartment with your iPhone.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 04:22

81. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

uhm no... my house is pretty big.. but will a lot of people if your traveling will see it? no...

it is a symbol when you go, like to a coffee shop (you must be kidding me is you go to starbucks and your phone is a dumbphone) and any other places...

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 08:07

96. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)

if your worried about what strangers think of you by what phone you use, your a moron. NO ONE CARES. Its not 2007/08.. or even 09. its 2012. The markets reflect the fact that apples reign as a "status symbol" are long over in all except emerging markets like china and super poor countries.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:53 8

5. Aeires (unregistered)

Apple just doesn't know how to take a compliment.

/s, in case you missed it.

Yawn, yet another document that can be interpreted any number of ways. Anyone else wish this trial would end?

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:59 2

13. ghostnexus (Posts: 96; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

yes move on, and make an iPhone different from the iPhone 4

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:55 3

6. ghostnexus (Posts: 96; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

Well, Samsung lost this case!

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:57 1

7. onilink67 (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)

One good thing is the directive to remove the iphone feeling. Actually shows that while they are comparing too phones (giving icons a 3D feel is nothing new) the engineers were told to make sure not to give the impression of an iphone look ... not to mention this is just the dock open against iphones homescreen (yes I know iphone doesn't have a dock).

This trial is going to come down to how patent law is upheld and may be a trail to be referenced for years. Its all about what is considered a valid patent considering previous patents and what someone can really patent (rectangle). I'll admit I get sick reading a lot of these articles seeing these companies fight like this but I think both companies need it right now to kinda put things into perspective.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:57 5

8. ilkinandr92 (Posts: 49; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)

Umm this actually shows Samsung didnt copy GS 1 because its worse then apples iphone xD which makes apples argument invalid because they said GS1 was like iphone. which would mean iphone sucked too. I like samsung phones and apple but im on Samsung side on this one. All the manufactures make candy bar phones and apple cant sue them all if u look at LG phones they look even more like an iphone by design. So its same as saying u cant make wheels round on Mercedes because BMW had it first rofl. Another thing is why didnt apple sue samsung when the GS1 was first released but only now? Well if u look at the market share chat that was provided in the court when GS1 and GS2 came out their value wasnt high but when GS3 hit the market their stocks shoot through the roof an now apple is losing money so they do what they do the best (Bitch and cry lol)

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:23

27. ghostnexus (Posts: 96; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

Well I hope if this doesn't slow down Samsung, I got my first Samsung Android phone last week(Epic 4g Touch), and honestly I found it to be better than the One X(at&t), Droid Razr, and the Lumia 900, I am planing on buying the galaxy s4 next year.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:57 4

66. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

Better than the OneX ? You must be a Samsung fanboy . How can I device made last year better that this year's HTC flagship
Snapdragon s4 vs eynos , hd screen vs wvga , better design , newest version of sense vs old touchwiz

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:43

38. Commentator (Posts: 3722; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

While it may suggest that Samsung didn't copy the iPhone with the GSI, it furthers Apple's claim that they did copy it with the GSII. Many of the suggestions listed in the file were taken to heart when designing the GSII. Remember, Every Samsung phone up to the GSIII is under the microscope here

Also, Apple isn't losing money, I don't know where you got that information.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 03:19 1

75. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

Actually, it doesn't further any claim, it lets the engineers see where they could improve. Read the damn document, they were even told to avoid making it feel like the iPhone.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 23:58 8

9. Savage (unregistered)

It's difficult to comment here without taking sides. Okay Samsung, Apple's right, you shouldn't have copied them. And Apple, You should've sued them back in 2010. Not when their smartphone sales are greater than yours. It makes you look desperate which is what you are!

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:10 4

16. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)

this is the most balanced comment here.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 00:12 1

20. Savage (unregistered)

Why, thank you random citizen :D

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:27 6

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

How is Apple desperate when they just raked in 77% of profits in the mobile industry?

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:36 2

54. Savage (unregistered)

Then why don't you tell me why is Apple trying to get Samsung devices banned? They'd have made plenty of money by just asking Sammy to pay royalties. Instead, they wanna control the USA smartphone market, banning devices that threaten its sales.

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 01:40 3

55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

It's fine that you disagree with Apple's strategy, however you're being dishonest to call then desperate.

Desperate would be RIM for example. Apple is at the top of the hill.

And why aren't you upset with Samsung for so blatantly copying?

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