Samsung to iPhone users: the thing you've been waiting on for years is already here, and it's the Galaxy S5

Samsung's latest commercial suggests that iPhone users who've been waiting for a larger screen can just buy the Galaxy S5...
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109. DnB925Art

Posts: 1168; Member since: May 23, 2013

There is this thing called the Google Play Edition if you want a stock experience without Touchwiz. More stable? Actually iOS has more force closes than Android. If the software matters, you get MORE functionality in Android.

42. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

iToys are just that toys. You either have to be a girl, a teenager, a senior citizen or just really dumb to own an iToy. I mean if you want the BEST tech available then the iToy IS NOT it. Apple's iPhone is STILL not HD. Samsung has 1440p phones while Apple has not made it to 720p yet!!! They say they have the first 64bit processor yet they don't have enough RAM to actually use it. Really?!? Apple is constantly claiming they are giving their customers the best when in fact they are not. The sad thing in all of this is that the Apple fans eat it all up. When Samsung says "the thing you have been waiting on for years is already here" they are actually telling the truth... unlike Apple! lololololololololol Ironic isn't it...

44. Ninetysix

Posts: 2964; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

"Samsung has 1440p phones". Can I buy that in the US?

46. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

lolololololololololololololololol Really... You might want to use Google, I mean it really works. works well also! Soon, very soon! lol GREAT edit. I can do it too!!! ^^^

55. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

By 'science' retina display or the term retina, means the distance and screen size and pixel ratio to when your eyes cannot tell the difference in pixels. And for the most part they are right. quadhd is a race to the top of specs and nothing more, imo. As well you really don't know what 64bit brings to the table, even if you don't have more than 4gb of ram. I am sure there are plenty of people here to show you what it truly means, but I would think you would need more understanding doesn't have 4gb zomg apple sucks look at my android name, wooooooooooo. For apple if they want a bigger screen they have an iPad. Most people that want to do anything serious in terms of screen real estate use an ipad. I love my note 3's screen size, but you have to be high to think it can replace a tablet of any decent size from 8in to 12in. It is one reason why I don't care that my every day phone is 4.5in (Yes my note 3 is a sidekick to my other phone), cause I just pull out a full blown 11.6in pc that syncs with my phone flawlessy and look at a note 3 user (this includes myself) and laugh that for the price of both, I can do more.

71. wilsong17 unregistered

Exacto mundo I will get the note 4 sure it will be waterproof I really don't care about metal... just like the price is right... the only thing the iPhone is going to rock is the built in 128gb drive at least I can have a 128 gb memory card

112. ManusImperceptus

Posts: 724; Member since: Jun 10, 2014

I have an 8" galaxy tab and a 15" Asus hybrid tablet/laptop. Both are quite capable devices in their own right, but my everyday usage in terms of casual web browsing and book reading has more or less completely shifted to my Lumia 1520 after I bought it two months ago. It's 6" and it's all but made my 8" Android obsolete and relegated my hybrid to purely laptop usage.

121. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

lol What on Earth are you talking about? It's a simple fact that you need a minimum of 4GB of RAM for 64bit to make a difference. Dude in my line of business my Note 3's screen is much more usable than a tiny iPhone's screen. I can go to my website & actually show them products & have them fill out orders right from my screen comfortably. The video's I show them are very clear sharp & big enough to see. No strain & up to 3 people can see it with NO issues thanks to the Super AMOLED's insane viewing angles. Plus I don't need to carry a tablet with me. I carry an Ultra Book if I need to carry anything else. My Ultra Book does WAY more than your tablet & it's just as light!!! Tablets have come far but an Ultra Book will always kill it. Yes it's more expensive BUT you get a true do it all device not limited by tablet standards!!! My tablet is my fun device. I watch Netflix, Crackle, Vevo, play over 350 NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 games, Dead Trigger 2, Modern Combat 4 & practice to speak a different language with Duolingo. That's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head... For WORK I would NEVER dream of using a tablet. The Ultra Book is WAY more efficient. My Note 3's 5.7 inch screen is the perfect size. Why carry a tablet when I already own a Phablet? Ohh and Apple does suck, their business model is corrupt & down right not in the best interest of the customer. "look at my android name, wooooooooooo."

122. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

... "cause I just pull out a full blown 11.6in pc that syncs with my phone flawlessy and look at a note 3 user (this includes myself) and laugh that for the price of both, I can do more." So you laugh at yourself... You went & bought a Note 3 so you can laugh at yourself. Buddy you are indeed a champion of humanity. Kudos to you for admitting that! lol

106. dontneedtoknow

Posts: 158; Member since: Feb 17, 2014

Dude i know plenty of tech enthusiasts who happily own iPhone including programmers and software engineers. Different people wants and need are different. I don't see why people don't realize it. I honestly prefer android phone because it offers me big screens which is crucial and i don't need iTunes also I can put in a sd card.

48. Liveitup

Posts: 1798; Member since: Jan 07, 2014

People should be careful what they wish for, when competition no longer exists maybe then they'll realise how utterly silly their hating was. WP, BB, iOS should all have the chance to exist for a healthy mobile world.

2. youlookfoolish

Posts: 193; Member since: Dec 14, 2012

Apple still continues to sell iPhones at a 3 to 1 clip while yawning and laughing to the bank.

6. steedsofwar unregistered

Apple has lost millions of sales to Samsung. Besides, Samsung sells more phones than Apple worldwide. #Schooled

8. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

They sell more cheap phone! Apple don't play in that sand box playboy. #schooled

11. steedsofwar unregistered

That's Apple's loss. #Wasteman

22. willard12 unregistered

Just because they convinced you to pay a high price for a cheap device doesn't make the device premium. It simply means Apple plays people for suckers. Numbers don't lie. Do the math, playboy. You paid a Bentley price for a Kia. Good job.

24. Ninetysix

Posts: 2964; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Your car analogy is way off playboy.

26. willard12 unregistered

Ok, you paid $650 (or 2 year contract subsidy) for a $191-$197 phone versus $650 for another device with $256 in features installed. Is that more of an accurate comparison?

29. Ninetysix

Posts: 2964; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Probably broski. Don't do car analogies again..ever.

30. willard12 unregistered

You paid a Mercedes price and got a Hyundai, broski.

33. Ninetysix

Posts: 2964; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

I'm Android user brosphine. I made this vid last week for Arte..want one for yourself as well? About device might be a little different since I updated to a newer ROM. Oh and you might want to check out the Hyundai Equus.

37. willard12 unregistered

I'm in the Army and served in Korea. I am more than familiar with the Equus. I' ve also served in Germany and am familiar with the cost to manufacture a Mercedes as well. Thanks.

39. Ninetysix

Posts: 2964; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Want a medal? Like I said..don't do car analogies again...ever :)

41. willard12 unregistered

Got medal, thanks. Like I said, it's like paying for a BMaw and getting a Saturn.

58. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Ya you lived in Germany, I drive a 02 BMW M3, I have had to do more repairs, live through more bad recalls than my zx2 s/r that is still going, one repair. So sure, go by car analogies. My m3 is great, gets the looks, but to go after one brand and say look bmw, its better, is about as derp as you actually thinking your s5, has superior parts.

45. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

Those who don't understand economics, or even more pertinent, economies of scale, should leave the BOM discussions to those of us who do. If you did understand, you would realize that $197, in the case of Apple, is greater than the $256 of Samsung. Given Apple's ridiculous economies of scale, which are unmatched in mobile, they could probably build the Galaxy S5, component for component, for under $150, if it suited them. There is nothing really special or unique about Samsung's BOM, besides the AMOLED screen. SoC is off-the-shelf stock silicon, for both Sd and Exynos (You can put your name on anything you manufacture, but "Exynos" is just a Samsung brand name for "Stock ARM," as is "Mali."

90. iushnt

Posts: 3108; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Teaching economies of scale to Samsung would be like teaching dogs 'how to bark'.

94. tedkord

Posts: 17365; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

That argument isn't applicable, since the studies giving BOM are using street prices. No one knows what either Apple or Samsung actually pay for parts for their phones. Likely, it's even less than the numbers given due not only to their buying power, but in Samsung's case due to their vertical integration - they make a lot of their own parts, which lowers costs. So, to make the comparison legit, they're computing the BOM from street prices. So, no, Apple's $199 isn't greater than Samsung's $256.

104. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

It lowers costs some, but they still SE still buys those components because each unit is run as a separate business. What SE doesn't do is buy massive quantities of components (In the numbers Apple does) or capability at foundries or screen manufacturers because they do not use comparable components across multiple lines. The S5 and Note 4 will share almost no components. As for "street prices," custom silicon, custom aluminum cases, and the other custom parts, such as Touch ID, cannot be given such a price. Do you know what it would cost Samsung to use an SoC like the A7? Billions. They don't have the staff or the licensing to do such custom silicon. They would have to purchase companies with the ARM micro architecture expertise, pay ARM a lot more for an Architecture license, and then dump the R&D money into developing their own SoC. "Exynos" is just a Samsung marketing name for "Stock ARM" CPU, and Mali is just a straight stock ARM GPU

119. iushnt

Posts: 3108; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Still, Samsung can better exercise economies of scale than Apple..period

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