Rebuttal: No, Samsung should absolutely not ditch the S Pen

While some think that the S Pen is a redundant, niche feature, the Samsung stylus is a unique, product-defining piece of tech. Many would be sad to see it go, and I doubt Samsung would ever even entertain the idea.
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44. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Another dumb post. See what I meant?

45. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

You may understand English but you clearly have no concept of grammar, namely prepositions. I wasn't born in the U.S. or any English-speaking nation, but I made it a point to master it. Maybe you should listen to the woman who cleans your waste baskets and dusts your offices. She clearly is more humble than you'll ever be in your wildest, wettest dreams.

47. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I know 6 languages; I'm no master, but I prefer to be able to talk to 1 billion people instead of "having a good concept on English prepositions". If that dude had been half as smart as the person that cleans my offices, he would have known he does not have the cognitive ability to analize what I say. I have absolutely no reason to be humble with rude people; I ignore stupid people, I understand mad people that resort to name calling and then they calm down, I appreciate people that know more than I do and they share their knowledge, but I will never be humble when I exchange words with a stupid f**k like dark.

48. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

My points are now cemented. You’re our resident site jester. Mxy, and peaceboy handed the mantle to you. Oh, and it should read, a stupid little f**k like darkk, not “dark”. ;)

50. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Amongst crazy people, a sane one is the strange one; well, I prefer to be strange than to be crazy. It’s a pseudonym, dude; I couldn’t care less how you want to be called. Getting back to the article, your intervention changed nothing: the S-Pen utility is still for niche scenarios that only a very small number of users have. When Apple released the iPhone, every other touch based device had a stylus - today they are all (but one-two) dead; that’s how important is a device like the S-Pen.

61. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

It’s a notch, and the S-Pen is the truth. Stop trying to comeback with all these long drawn out posts lol, you’re getting clowned Mr. Rebuttal.

55. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Be easy on him, he likes to “analize” things. I hope he has a lifetime supply of Preparation H.

63. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

His rebuttal sleep are classically funny. He’s easy to bait, and then just sit back and laugh at his response.

58. oldskool50

Posts: 1320; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Like Victor, you don't get it. When you buy the Note, it means the S-Pen is important to you and you plan to use it. Just because the vast majority of phone users don't need an S-Pen, or by a Note devices, doesn't mean its worthless. It means its worth something to a certain group. you're obviously not in that group. The first cellphones I ever owned, all had a stylus. I preferred Windows Mobile devices because I preferred using a stylus. Then Blacbery came out and everyone wanted a physical keyboard which was awespme because it made typing text and emails much easier. Then the iPhone cames and moved the keyboard onto the screen. The Note takes all of those and adds a pen for precision when needed. it wans't meant to be a pen or pencil replacement. And I've taken complete and full notes in a classroom using my Note and S-Pen. Your claim thats it's only good for jotting a few quick sentences...IS EXACTLY WHAT TAKING NOTES. I'm not trying to write a book with the S-Pen. But you like others have an issue with a stylus, simply because YOU have no particular use for it. If you live in the city, there is no practical use to be driving an exotic car in the city. So because of that, that means the whole car is pointless or worthless? The S-Pen may be a useless gimmicky feature to the vast majority, but that doesn't make it useless because Galaxy Note outsells a lot of phones. Samsung sold maybe 20M of the Note 9 or more. Some OEM's don't even sell 20M phones in a year at all. The Note is unique. It was not menat to be a massly consumer based product. It is a niche product for peopel who have made their work habits revolve around the features of the Note. It's not for you. Speaking bad against it simply because its not for you is completely stupid. You sound just like Victor and based on what you said, you need to go read his article because you can side with him in his gloried complete lack of sense.

60. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

It may be too much to ask from you, but I’ll do it anyway: read my message before replying to it. Nothing I wrote says that the S-Pen and Note are worthless in themselves, I was just replying to the points made in this article and I have my 2 cents on why almost everyone can live without a stylus. I said the same thing you say (that should be a first...): using a stylus became a niche scenario; you need the precision it gives you - fine by me, go ahead and use it, but don’t tell me it’s a good brain exercise or one needs a stylus to sign documents... Ps: people have been buying notes because of their battery life, not because they had a stylus.

11. pogba

Posts: 105; Member since: Jun 13, 2018

this rebuttal would get a don demarco on url!!

12. NateAdam8

Posts: 436; Member since: Feb 17, 2012

There Phonearena goes again flip-flopping back and forth between what's popular and what they want and like most people they don't even know what they want in a phone cause when they get what they wanted there's always something else.

14. Mzedalis

Posts: 5; Member since: Jan 14, 2019

Duming the s pen is a dumb suggestion. There are a hell of alot more phones without a stylus. I get a kick out of people that think if they wouldn't use a feature that it's not necessary. I use my S pen multiple times a day. Besides writing it has many more functions

21. chbanks512

Posts: 75; Member since: Mar 07, 2017

Thank you for cleaning up that mess, good sir

24. TS020

Posts: 33; Member since: Feb 16, 2019

My understanding is that the S-Pen in the Note 9 can also be used as a remote shutter for the camera. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

29. Sam1ne

Posts: 38; Member since: Apr 07, 2019

Yes it absolutely can. Used it many times. (My favorite was a slow motion of me throwing a snowball right into the camera, and then sending that to my darling afar who was eager for some snow).

30. TS020

Posts: 33; Member since: Feb 16, 2019

Awesome, thanks Sam. I'm still rocking a Note 3 so I'm kind of out of the loop lol

33. Sam1ne

Posts: 38; Member since: Apr 07, 2019

Now, that's even more awesome.. I loved my Note 3 so much I couldn't sell it. My mom has it now and loves it. I decided to keep my Note 9 for at least 3 years if possible. Just the best piece of tech I ever bought..but the Note 3 is the close second!

53. Geezy0303

Posts: 2; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

yes it can and it definitely is a great feature to use

25. srgonu

Posts: 537; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

Thanks for trying to fix the damage done by victor to PA. Victor is more of a critic than a tech writer. oops, even a critic knows what he is talking..

27. AlienKiss

Posts: 134; Member since: May 21, 2019

I don't know who this Victor is, but I have the feeling he doesn't have a clue about smartphones. This is so unprofessional it really makes me wonder who hired him and if they checked his CV. Phone Arena, don't make the same mistakes as gsma does : stop hiring unprofessional people who think they are journalists just because they can write an article. Also, please STOP deleting user comments! Is this a communist website?? What happened to free speech?

28. Sam1ne

Posts: 38; Member since: Apr 07, 2019

Honestly there was no need for "rebuttal " as Victor's article got absolutely torn apart in the comment section. But still, this was a great write up.

34. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

The Note is the King, and the S-Pen is a must have. I gotta have my Note, best line of phones ever made IMHO.

36. dirtydirty00

Posts: 428; Member since: Jan 21, 2011

I use my S Pen a lot. I make diagrams at work with measurements. I also sketch design changes on job sites for people to see using my S Pen. I would be mad if they got rid of it. It's so convenient having it inside the phone tucked away

37. Alter

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 25, 2016

Didn't bother reading the article. Just wanted to say this about the premise of this article... no sh#t

38. tempdogg74

Posts: 136; Member since: Jan 04, 2009

Thanks for the article. The Notes a Note with the traditional SPen Cant wait for the Note Pro.

39. Krjal

Posts: 425; Member since: Dec 19, 2013

My personal best reason for the Note to keep its most noteworthy ability is that I wouldn't buy it otherwise. A wacom digitiser doesn't come in such a compact form factor anywhere else. For a designer it's fantastic.

43. moooxooom

Posts: 13; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Actually, I'm confused. Was there even a need for rebuttal? Who was dumb enough to write an article arguing for the removal of a feature for one of the many phones that a manufacturer produces, for which the phone generates more revenue in 1 month than the writer earns in his entire life time. If he doesn't like this phone, there's always another similar phone for him to choose from. Is there a need to target this particular phone? If the writer has any "sense" or "capability" he would have had started his own Oppo or some other phone company, and have made his millions. But now, he's still a writer, probably broke, depending on loaner devices to write reviews on. Think, tech writers are the "smart" people who laughed and grilled Samsung for making a "phablet" and saying that Samsung was dumb. A few years later, everyone rocks a phone larger than the original Phablet. Hence, why fight with the fools? I wouldn't.

49. talon95

Posts: 994; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

I'd like to see someone draw an engineering schematic without the Spen on a phone. People who don't like Spen just lack a need for it. They should remember that they don't do, or even know of, all the uses it has. Talking down the Spen when Samsung provides the perfect replacement in the S10+ is just a waste of everyone's time. Yes, there are other people in the world with different needs, get over it already.

52. Geezy0303

Posts: 2; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

i love the Note line and i love my S-Pen. i use it more and more than i used to and i love how with the Note 9 they added Bluetooth capability to take selfies.

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