Samsung should kill the S Pen

It's 2019 and it's time for Samsung to get rid of the S Pen...
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136 Comments

80. andee.b0b

Posts: 2; Member since: Mar 15, 2010

I love the S-pen. One argument I am always hearing is that you rarely use the pen which is correct (at least for me). BUT, when I have needed a pen and paper...I was able to pull the pen out and write my notes right away. Those are the moments that attracted me to the Note series. I wish I could get a S10 with an S-pen!

82. NateAdam8

Posts: 438; Member since: Feb 17, 2012

While I defend your right to think so I disagree cause without the S-Pen it's Just another Galaxy S Series with Note in it's name and if they do decide to stop putting the S-Pen on it they should just discontinue it and focus on the Galaxy S Series, Again just my opinion.

83. Mr2_wei

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

The spen is the reason I got the galaxy tab and the reason why I love the note series

84. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1260; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

It is called choice... Having more choices is always better for us consumers...

85. Matte_Black13

Posts: 27; Member since: Oct 12, 2018

Nope. Not even a Note user but if I was going to switch phones it would be BECAUSE of the S-Pen. If I wanted a non-Pen Samsung I would just get a S series. It’s not much different really.

88. deleon629

Posts: 463; Member since: Oct 04, 2014

I beg to differ. I use the S-pen almost everyday. Why? Simply because I can and have the option to do so. The phrase, "You can't miss what you never had" only works on Apple device users. Besides, where's the actual proof that the average Note buyer doesn't use the pen? And why the h$ll would the introduction to the article be that of, "it's the company's biggest profit driver...," yet expect the reader to believe that the same said-profitable product is supposed to just get taken off the shelves simply because YOU said so? You need more people, bro.

90. HTC_ONE_MAX

Posts: 168; Member since: Feb 06, 2015

could gives the S-Pen a magnet so it can stick to the phone when needs it.

91. Sam1ne

Posts: 42; Member since: Apr 07, 2019

..and you should stop writing. Seriously. This is the most idiotic article I have ever read on this site. The S Pen is the defining feature for me, as well as for the majority of Note owners, and the actual reason I buy the Note while not even considering other phones.

92. bigstrudel

Posts: 602; Member since: Aug 20, 2012

Article is trash. Do you get Android man? The Note series is one of the only things that differentiates it from being a trash version of iOS. If Google had its way: Android would be as bland as Vanilla Ice Cream.

94. Sam1ne

Posts: 42; Member since: Apr 07, 2019

p.s. I'm not allowed to post links but there's a Samsung's market research article about the Note series, and why it is easily the single most loved Samsung phone by its users, precisely because of its unique features and productivity capabilities. Yeah, you go tell 'em Victor. SMH. I mean, there's ONE device with the S Pen in the world, and HUNDREDS of others that are basically all the same and you want to KILL that one for being unique!!! As if you don't have enough non-S Pen choice?!?@?@ LEAVE MY NOTE ALONE.

95. yalokiy

Posts: 1015; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

No, you are wrong. The s-pen is needed.

97. Amir123a

Posts: 126; Member since: Aug 27, 2016

So many people agree with you (not). ;)

96. Amir123a

Posts: 126; Member since: Aug 27, 2016

As a Note 5 user for the last 4+ years, i TOTALLY agree with you. The s pen is the reason my next phone is going to be S11+. I am abandoning the note line. Bye bye note line. No more useless spen inside my phone.

98. djinn911

Posts: 16; Member since: Jun 25, 2014

Okay, when the Note series was started the idea was to have a device with a stylus in it for the people who still liked to have a pen input on their device. People were just starting to get used to the Capacitive touchscreens but there were still people who liked to have that pen input of the old Resistive displays but Samsung needed to be creative to bring an old dead tech back in the market. So they advertised it as a replacement to the personal Notes, a device that can take Notes using a pen input. The device needed to be big just because it required to be big for that Note taking ability (The resolution of the displays were 'amazing' and the accuracy of the tip on the display were clunky) and that is the only feature that caught on. People needed big devices and that helped driving the sales of the Note series skyrocket. As it was a 'better' Galaxy S phone, they therefore demanded more bucks for it but slowly the gap between the S and the Note series diminished. Today the Note is no better than the S, the only advantage it brings is the inclusion of the S-Pen for those niche power users. It is not up to Samsung that people are still buying the Notes even when it is made for those special niche users and it is stupid to buy a Note when there is a S version out there which is cheaper and will do all the things a Note does sans the S-Pen related functions. So here's what I believe, instead of blaming Samsung for the inclusion of S-Pen in the Note or making the Note their flagship; we should educate the consumer on what is best for them. We all know that Samsung has two flagships, the S which is for everyone and then the Note which is for those niche users but as Samsung is making money, it is for everyone. And if Samsung could really do all the things outlined in this post, why haven't they did it in the S line up then? The S-pen is the identity of the Note and it is really not just a gimmick. I am a Note9 user and until I bought it which happens to be my first Note, I too thought of it as a gimmick. It has helped me sign many documents, accurate underlining texts on screenshots, jotting quick notes and finally the remote feature of the pen. If it can help me in such subtle ways, it is already a winner for me.

99. BobbyJ

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 09, 2019

I created an account only to comment here. I read the article. It is crap. Buy the Galaxy S if you don't want the S Pen. You really have no idea how to use an S Pen and all the features that come with it, do you? And the line that fingers can be used for everything that the pen can do is just plain stupid. Or probably you have pen like fingers. As an Interior designer myself, I cannot imagine a day without the S Pen. I need it fir drawing stuff on sites, writing measurements, signing PDFs, creating live messages, and what not. When you use the term Note, it implies a notepad and a pen. You cannot use the notepad without anything to write on it. Accuracy is amazing with an S Pen. It is irreplaceable. Again, the Galaxy S line exists, if you are into a phone with no pen. -_-

100. Sam1ne

Posts: 42; Member since: Apr 07, 2019

The author is so blind to the very essential fact here..that the S Pen is exactly what makes the Note the single most versatile personal handheld device in existence. It's not about the best battery and the best camera, it's about being able to do things you simply cannot do with any other smartphone! The Note line is the only device out there that can legit be used as the ONLY COMPUTER(as in my case). The S Pen allows for some things you could otherwise only do on a tablet with a stylus. And with the DeX and Linux on DeX, it can do everything a normal PC or laptop can. BUT, and here's the biggest irony..the greatest benefit of the S Pen for me is in the most basic scenarios such as simply using it while I eat my lunch at the table instead of using my fingers(the Note being in a stand flip case position), or while I'm laying on my belly and leaned on my elbows..it's actually VERY PRACTICAL AND LIBERATING NOT HAVING TO CONSTANTLY USE YOUR FINGERS FOR EVERYTHING!

112. Motogatto

Posts: 2; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

I also only created an account just to reply this article... I think this Victor won it all...

101. Zacharee

Posts: 2; Member since: Jul 09, 2019

The S-Pen is literally the only thing that sets the Note apart from the S(+). Ever since 2015, it's had the same processor, the same amount of RAM (as the S+), the same display resolution and quality, the same cameras (as the S+), and the same software features (excluding the S-Pen related stuff). The only differences are a slightly larger display, a squarer body, and the S-Pen. It's literally called the Note. And the Note9 has a 4000mAh battery, not 4100mAh.

102. Wpamphile

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 09, 2019

Take out the S pen then you have another S series. Just make the phone slightly thicker. It will actually be easier to hold. The Note is supposed to be a powerful phone. The S pen can be greatly improved to make a huge difference. The Note 3, Note 4, and Note edge were the best designs for the Note series.

103. Wckdqt

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 09, 2019

IF you don't like the S-pen get a Galaxy SXX phone - I use the S-pen on the daily. I am a crafter and an artist and the S-pen is essential for my design work. I also am a small business owner and keep essentially all my business documents, contracts, inventory sheets, etc on there. So i am constantly using my phone and the S-pen. Sorry - but the Note series is the best phone i've ever owned and I've owned the note 3, 5 and now the 8 waiting on the 10 - I am and will forever be a Samsung kinda lady and the Note is my go to phone preference.

106. bcreighton

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 09, 2019

This article and these comments....

107. Vogue1985

Posts: 466; Member since: Jan 24, 2017

The Note the one phone NO OTHER company is going to bother to copy because its Samsung true flagship,no of story. I've has every Note since the Note 2,I would say since the Note 7,Samsung has dilute the Note and S,unfortunately, it also get the Later tech Not the latest,and without the S-Pen it's now a square Galaxy S Plus. From a production stand point,yes it makes things cheaper to produce,but honestly they have cheapened the Galaxy to much. Even removing it's best stock app after the note 7. Plus slow updates,but when the are fast updates they are full of bug,brick phones, remove features,degrade the camera and make the phone slow and No customer service. They really need to pull their greedy socks and make a True note,because honestly, the Note 10 looks so mediocre, with that candy bar camera setup from 2016/17. Not buying. BUT the S_Pen rocks,its true 1 of 1,Samsung give me a true flagship,note a S10 with Spen. Its the unicorn stop the mediocrity and cost cutting

109. CamDexter

Posts: 9; Member since: Oct 04, 2014

The opening sentence in this ridiculous article ... "And what makes a Galaxy Note a Galaxy Note is the S Pen" That's all this foolish writer needed to say.

110. FSP48

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 09, 2019

What a dumb idea. Get a Galaxy if you don't want a pen. The whole idea of the original note that started the series and why it's called a note is specifically for the S pen. Nothing compares to an actual active digitizer screen with S Pen for precision and ease of use to jot down things or navigate even largest of small screens. Unfortunately Samsung already mostly ruined the whole purpose of the note to go for the glamour phone market anyway. Gen 3 and 4 notes were the last of the good ones designed for power users that bought the phone because it offered so many hardware tools starting with the S Pen and active digitizer screen. With these all glass constructed phones you now absolutely must have a case or it's inevitable to accidentally get broken. There's no benefit to having a glass back. It's probably the stupidest thing that's happened to a phones construction. The note 7 battery fiasco wouldn't have been so bad if it still had a removable battery. Dropping I/O hardware like the analog headphone jack, sd card slot and even the IR blaster is the other major moronic design choice. All those features continue to have purpose but the masses are too simple to know how to utilize them and only care about superficial features like ultimate selfie cameras. The form factor and screen ratio was better on the note 3/4 but it was too hard for the little baby hands of the masses apparently. Our modern Phones are supposed to be power tools for tech mobility, not some sort of delicate status symbol showpiece. Whoever started this premium feel/fingerprint magnet marketing BS needs to get slapped around for dumbing down the masses as to what makes a phone like the original note concept so useful. There's also really no point in getting a new phone every year so they've figured out it's better to make them with built in fragility and obsolescence with difficult repair serviceability to sucker in more sales volume. Plastic or composite was the better construction method like they originally marketed in favor of until the bling factor iPhone concept became the target to beat. So thanks to people like this author the only thing the latest note has going for it above anything else like a Pixel is the the S Pen. Make it wider again with the nicer 16:9 aspect ratio flat glass screen to get more battery. Curved glass edged phone screens are pointless as well.

111. Motogatto

Posts: 2; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

This is so clickbait. Just a provocation. These arguments are not worth to be replied. This article doesn't suit the Phone Arena standard. I LOVE AND NEED THE S.PEN and I don't appear to be the only one

114. RampantRhombus

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

The MAIN reason I'm getting Samsung Notes over other phones is the S Pen. When on the go and needing to take notes on building plans, this phone is indispensable to me and my productivity. I can't fit full-scale drawings in my pocket, nor would I want to. If you don't like the S Pen, why not just pass on buying it? Don't use your platform to advocate for killing off this useful line of devices. I've read articles on Phone Arena off and on for years, but this is important enough to me that I made an account just to tell you how wrong you are.

116. Kainan

Posts: 6; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

Cant believe I just did the same thing

115. Kainan

Posts: 6; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

This guy is an Apple user

117. fryeguy

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

I use my S-Pen on a daily basis. Going in and out of IT closets and writing down ports, IP addresses, work notes, etc. Also for taking pictures in hard to reach areas where you have to hold your phone at an awkward angle, and can't place your finger on the shutter button. The precision of selecting text on screen, and copying and pasting can't be matched with using your fingers. In meetings, not having to carry around a pen and pad or stickies is another bonus. All the other features of the S-Pen give it bonus points.

123. van23

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

What you are basically saying is that Samsung should kill the Note series. A Note phone without the S pen already exists. It's called the Galaxy S10+.

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