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Samsung seeks new trial, calling jury verdict "unreasonable and unsupported"

0. phoneArena posted on 23 Sep 2012, 05:23

While Apple seeks more money from Samsung based on a filing made Friday, Samsung seeks to have a whole new trial after telling Judge Lucy Koh that the jury's original verdict, which awarded $1.05 billion to Apple, was unreasonable...

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posted on 23 Sep 2012, 08:21 3

25. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Don't hold your breath waiting for judge Koh to grant Sammy's motion for a new trial. They are basically asking her to admit she screwed up in managing the trial. Sammy has a better chance on appeal - if the verdict is tossed, a new trial is the inevitable outcome. If Sammy can prove judicial bias, they can get another judge assigned to the new trial.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 12:02 1

82. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

Exactly what I have in mind. That's why they should just take this case to the court of appeals.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 13:48 1

93. tedkord (Posts: 14237; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Samsung needs to keep sending reporters to the jury foreman. The more that retard speaks, the better Samsung's case gets.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 05:33 14

3. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

I remember reading an article regarding a statement from a witness saying starting from day one, it was apple all along.

So that alone could prove him unreasonable. Why would he be a jury if he prejudge someone without listening to their defense? :3

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 11:38 1

75. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

yep meaning THEY WERE PAID

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 06:25 12

6. jove39 (Posts: 1980; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I want samsung to fight till last breath/penny!

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 06:47 5

8. mukrenol (Posts: 92; Member since: 03 Sep 2011)

If the juries get a free iphone after the trial, it will be way more interesting...

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 11:38

76. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

they recieved free istuffs

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:22 5

10. SpectatorS (Posts: 13; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

so it hasn't ended yet..
hope samsung can make it

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:23 11

11. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)

biased juries. biased juries everywhere

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:24 9

12. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Judge Koh and Jury are discriminated and sided with Apple. The trial that Apple won was unfair, anti-competition and distrimination against foreign company Samsung.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 08:12

20. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

They side with Apple because Samsung shouldn't have infringed on protected patents.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 09:31 1

45. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Why you are not talking about those cases where Apple is accused of having infringed patents ???

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 11:33

70. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)

Because all non-apple patents are FRAND, Fair, Reasonable, And. Not, Desperate. #appleisgod

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 13:50

94. tedkord (Posts: 14237; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Nine of the LTE patents that Samsung and HTC are suing over are FRAND. Apple did what they always do - just steal what they want, then throw their billions into layers to avoid paying licensing.

posted on 27 Sep 2012, 05:38

141. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)

Hence, with the same reasoning, all apple patents are unfair, unreasonable and VERY desperate

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 09:55 1

53. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

"What Protected patents" which dose not belong to them....!

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 20:31 1

122. Furbal (unregistered)

Considering Synaptic has been introducing gestures as a standard on laptops, I have no clue how apple has been awarded any patents for similar motions.

The only patent apple has any claim what so ever to is the bounce-back and that is debatable with prior art

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:36 5

14. Zayuh24 (Posts: 149; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

Why is Samsung still trying to appeal Judge Koh's decision... with Judge Koh?! Please by all means, move to a better appellate judge!

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:36 1

15. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

The World is corrupts

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 11:39 1

77. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

it's a icorrupt world

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:41 5

16. mercorp (Posts: 1043; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)

Samsung,the star that always shines bright even in adversity.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 07:50 1

17. Gaytor (Posts: 51; Member since: 09 Sep 2012)

Ssung always seems a little behind. Think they shud try to play smarter. Judge Kohs court hence her rule. Give a good account of yourself within that time Apple did. Anywaya. phonewise, waiting for the Note2!

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 11:40

78. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

learn how to spell SAMSUNG

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 08:09 1

18. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)

SAMSUNG must move a new trial to foreign country and file an appeal at different court and judge.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 13:51 2

96. tedkord (Posts: 14237; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

They can't move a US patent case to another country. Different countries have different patent laws.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 08:14

22. justaphone (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Aug 2012)

"Unreasonable, unsupported"... Of course that's what Samsung would say, they lost miserably! I doubt anyone would want to sit through all that again... and then some! It will be hard to find an unbiased jury since this was such a publicized case.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 13:55 2

97. tedkord (Posts: 14237; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

It also happens to be 100% true. Even Judge Koh didn't expect the lopsided verdict, as she warned Apple prior to the end that it was going to go badly for both companies. That means she saw merit in at least part of Samsung's defense.

Add to that the moronic statements by the jury foreman, and even Apple don't think the verdict will stand in its entirety.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 19:13 1

117. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


She warned them both because she figured the jury was gonna slap down both sides pretty hard, just like they did in Korea days earlier and other countries since.
America is the ONLY place where Apple won hands down... or even a majority.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 23:13

124. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I would be more than happy to be on that jury board, as I like to believe I can be rational and open-minded, and since I'm a Nokia/Windows Phone & Symbian fan, I have no particular bias towards either. Some of apple's claims were accurate as far as I could tell, as were some of Samsungs. The verdict should not have been so one-sided.
Since the case wouldn't ever come where I live, it's a moot point

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