Samsung said to be replacing TSMC to produce Apple's next-gen chip

KGI Securities analyst Michael Liu told clients on Wednesday, that Samsung will be replacing TSMC in the production of next-gen 14nm smartphone chips for Apple and Qualcomm. Liu said in his report that Samsung would be taking over in the second half of 2015. The Commercisal Times of Korea reported on Thursday, that Qualcomm has already started working with Samsung on the chips...
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33. pulkit1

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 03, 2014

only apps that use sdk . but ndk apps will have to be rewritten ( includes games and resource intensive apps). The questions will most developer both 32bit and 64bit or only built 32bit apps. But then again we might see android completely shift to 64bit because of cheap 64bit soc then again it will be a long process.

34. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

I do know devs will need to switch to 64bit programming in ndk, but existing games can't be recompiled in 64bit easily?

41. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

It's not as simple as Google wants you to believe. I've been telling this since almost one full year : Only apps that are wilritten 100% in Java run in 64bit and *might* benefit from this. There are caveats : 1. No sane person writes computationally demanding routines in Java. Simple apps like hello worlds don't need more performance in first place. 2. If you want to write a video editor for example, you port third party libs like FFMpeg. And its 32bit version is much faster than 64bit due to the FAR more mature optimizations in 32bit. As an app developer, you are then forced to build the whole app against 32bit. 3. Android apps heavily rely on third party libs compared to iOS. And while the whole framework on iOS came 64bit optimized from day 1, most of Android's components are third party ones, hardly optimized for 64bit. And now, Google is lying with their "64bit ready" claim. Sure, they'll demonstrate how much performance gain the transition brings with a few selected applications, but there won't be much in real use. I don't know which NDK version Google will specify as a prequesit for 64bit apps. It's 6.0 for iOS, and it might be KitKat for Android, or even L (which is more likely IMO) Would you, as an app developer, take the risk and make your products require such a late version of Android for that meaningless, possibly even crippling 64bit experience? Absolutely not. Bogus 64bit indeed. Just look at the apps in the PlayStore, which Android version they require. Most of them still target 4+ years old Gingerbread. What do you think how long it will take until a meaningful number of 64bit apps are available, requiring KitKat or L? Three years at least, five years to be realistic. What about iOS? 64bit support is a no brainer with the 95+% share of iOS6+. Fragmentation is a SERIOUS problem on Android.

42. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

+1 From me

43. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

+1 from me as well, very informative

40. The-Sailor-Man

Posts: 1095; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

GS5 is not the only high end of Samsung. More and more ppl buy Note too(Note3) Soon Note an S will be 50% -50% S4 actually beat iPhone 5S alone. Check it out (if the isuckers didn't split S4 on two)

47. pulkit1

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 03, 2014

why do you hate iPhone users so much . You don't like them or the choice they made ? But the statistics you are proving was for a quarter not actually since launch , don't believe me do a google search .

44. xfire99

Posts: 1205; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

Android is based on Linux kernel and 64 bit was already baked in for veryyyyy long time. There has no need for 64 bit, until Apple caught everyone by surprise to release A7 64 bit. So, u have it wrong there.

50. pulkit1

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 03, 2014

Then again you don't know the difference between apps made by sdk or ndk. If you would have known you would understand that ndk apps will require code modification . Most games and resource intensive apps are built using NDK.

20. tedkord

Posts: 17136; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Nah, he does it for love, not money.

19. tedkord

Posts: 17136; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

You're less than a speck of dust on a pimple on Samsung's rump. Not only did they not hire anyone to "assassinate" you, they're in no way even aware of your existence.

23. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Yup, you're that important. MLK, JFK, and JakeLee. smh

14. MarkArigayo

Posts: 240; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Without Samsung, Apple is NOTHING. Everybody knows that.

49. pulkit1

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 03, 2014

Its a symbiotic relationship .

25. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

They just can't compete

26. Loubielou

Posts: 603; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Apple get the Praise for this,but Samsung just get used,Why?can"t Samsung make Apple Struggle an Produce better Products for there own Smartphones,Apple just thing that they can use Samsung for Anything and they are Frightened of Saying "No" to them

27. Ninetysix

Posts: 2933; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

When was the last time you praised TSMC for Qualcomm's SoCs?

48. pulkit1

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 03, 2014

its like a supermarket , you can afford to pissoff your customers . A shop or a company is nothing without its customer . apple is the largest customer to samsung semiconductor devision .

30. iMemo

Posts: 113; Member since: Feb 22, 2014

So many dumb fanboys here. "Without Samsung, Apple is nothing". *facepalm* Like seriously... How are you even allowed to post such a non-logical comment!

51. BlankSpaceNai

Posts: 127; Member since: Apr 23, 2014

Its funny how much hate and anger gets thrown into this 'fight' between the two companies. Either your with Apple or your with Samsung, or your someone who says they have both. A few common things I see is that people continue to hate on android for the OS in general, the problems it has and etc. The hate I see with Samsung is that they make 'ugly' phones and for TW. The hate for apple is for their devices not being as 'good' as the others. Its amazing how much the same arguement comes up again and again. I wasnt aware that the look of the phone became more important than the phone itself. I wasnt aware that an OS must be absolutely perfect in all views when its released. I wasnt aware that Metal defined how good a phone is, and so on. Seriously, pick with what your happy with. Its amazing how the look of a phone has made people so insanely picky. That is must LOOK a certain way for the phone to be good, not with its specs, hardware, software, etc. No..its the LOOK that makes all the difference. Apple uses a 64, while androids running with 32. Is that going to absolutely CHANGE how you use the device? Or the public? NO, your still gonna be playing your kairosoft or temple run, or etc. Your still gonna be listening to your music, watch your movies, etc. It should not matter at all. All that matters is that it performs to your usage. If it can take your usage and make you happy, isnt that whats important? I find it funny that people are so obsessed with such trivial, diva-ish, and glamor. Its like we're buying jewelery. Yet we all complain when devices dont do something that the others do. Everyone needs to complain about something, but at this point, we're just digging for anything to fight with. How about we wait and see what happens, and if you dont like it, dont buy it, but convincing others not to buy something just because it doesnt fit you is why we have problems in other genres of entertainment (Look at gaming as a pure example)
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