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Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"

0. phoneArena posted on 12 Sep 2013, 00:58

That's right folks, we're back in the day care play area and Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy. Samsung apparently doesn't care much that 64-bit processing won't really help Apple all that much in the near future, nor that 64-bit support will be completely useless on an Android device (unless Android 4.4 KitKat is bringing 64-bit support)...

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posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:47 2

112. ph00ny (Posts: 1478; Member since: 26 May 2011)

it would make more sense for samsung to use 64bit than apple since they're getting close to the 4GB memory limit of 32bit

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:44 1

120. designerfx (Posts: 76; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)

nothing here is relevant. the article title is crap, and so are the comments.

Every ARM processor is moving towards X64 for a variety of reasons. This has no correlation to any individual vendor.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 12:51 2

125. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

I don't see how Samsung would be copying Apple by implementing a 64-bit processor. That A7 processor that Apple is carrying under the hood is made by Samsung, not Apple. One cannot copy or steal technology created by oneself. It'd be like accusing the German scientists the U.S. employed after World War 2 of copying the designs of the jet propulsion engine from the Nazis.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:06

126. scumbledEGG (unregistered)

64bit??? what a gimmick!!! nahaha! clear win, apple takes home the "W" haha!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:02 18

2. D.Aceveda (Posts: 396; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)

64 bit is pointless on a mobile device. Apple needs 64bit since they still haven't got past the 1gb limit LOL

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 09:20

106. ghaniosman (Posts: 78; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)

forget apple!! now samsung (the new cool) is doing it, thats matters!!!
secondly, PA even if google hasn't announced yet but samsung did so not to worry since samsung is already dominating google's android OS and what samsung demands google have to do it.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:44 3

111. Commentator (Posts: 3722; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

Ageed. Even IF Apple were able to cram 4+ GB into the iPhone 5S, we'd be watching all this amazing performance... on a tiny screen.

I could see this being much more applicable on an iPad, but knowing Apple they won't be putting more than 4 GB into the iPad until 2018.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:04 5

3. TGreg104 (Posts: 38; Member since: 14 Jun 2011)

I know you meant this to be playful and it is but honestly its bound to happen, its just the next logical step as far as SoC's go since we're nearing the 4gb mark. I honestly think Apple made the A7 a 64-bit because they saw that android devices are coming to the point where 64-bit makes sense and just wanted to be the first to do it. I'm sure the iPhone 6 will have 4gbs of ram, and I'm sure the next android flag ships will be 64-bit/+4gb of ram. Its just how it goes. Good for apple i guess

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:44

23. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)

4GB rams still not coming next year IMO. at least after 2 years.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:32 4

37. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)

I think the Ubuntu Edge had 4GB RAM? Though it didn't reach its goal. A chinese company is also going to sell an Android smartphone with 4GB RAM (Hasee I think) So I think 2014 will be a year of 3/4GB RAM's.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:04 3

28. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)

I'm hoping the 64-bit is part of Apple's plans to make a more computer like tablet with the iPad, by offering more functionality and thus increasing its ram and storage options to help.

Likewise, I hope google does it because I think Android on a hybrid tablet might be pretty nice.

Although that Asus T100 looks like a pretty good deal, full-blown windows 8.1, decent specs all for only $349 (Which includes the keyboard dock, and the 64GB is only $399)

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:47 3

55. tedkord (Posts: 13894; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Apple aren't going to offer anything that cuts into their profit margins. If an extra GB of ram costs them $80, expect to pay an extra $200.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:34

129. Dr.Tom (Posts: 46; Member since: 11 May 2013)

Only $200 extra? Apple generally mark up 500 percent. So an $80 part adds $400 to the bottom line. Follow this rule and the extra 4Gb ram adds about $40, so that adds $200 to the bottom line! If the new iPhone 5S costs about $900-1000 (off contract price), a 5-6Gb iPhone with no other upgrades will cost about $1100-1200 to buy! Better save cause even for me, thats stupid money to give for a phone!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:47

56. tedkord (Posts: 13894; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Apple aren't going to offer anything that cuts into their profit margins. If an extra GB of ram costs them $80, expect to pay an extra $200.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:13 2

48. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

Does the iPhone really need anymore RAM though? I'm yet to think it does. It may only have 1gb but it still runs games and the overall OS a lot smoother and quicker than any flagship Android or Windows phone i've used. Optimisation really is key, and Apple have that in the bag..

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:50 4

57. tedkord (Posts: 13894; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Simplicity also helps. Never having to dynamically resize content for different screens for example. The less something does, the less resources it need and the easier it is to make it s smooth.

That said, I'm running AOSP android 4.3 right now and it is every bit as smooth and fluid as iOS.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:55 1

102. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

Awesome. On which device?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:10

127. scumbledEGG (unregistered)

+1tgreg104, its even, its all about choice...

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:05 8

4. pyradark (Posts: 882; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)

even google play is not capable of bringing 1080p apps!! while iOS does

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 06:29 5

72. tedkord (Posts: 13894; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Awesome! 1080p apps on a 640p screen! That 1080p will do as much good on a 640p screen as a 64bit processor/OS on a 2gb ram machine.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:27 3

84. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)

Yeah completely disregard the iPad right, blind hate just makes you sound dumb

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:49 2

89. joey_sfb (Posts: 6551; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

tedkord just stated a technical fact. deal with it.

however if you think Apple new iPhone is great value you could buy it and be happy. I don't think it good enough for me.

Hope iPhone 6 would be better.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:43

97. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Can you prove that with plausible links?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:05 2

5. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)

At the risk of sounding like a troll or mindless fan boy, there is no way people can say Samsung isn't copying here. They could've announced it next month, in a few months when rumors pick up for the S5, or for any reason. But the day after apples announcement... This just screams "me too"

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:13 24

13. suneeboy (Posts: 201; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)

It's not copying. Its the natural progression of technology. So is everyone copying the original 1080p phone? Is any phone copying the original phone that provided push e-mail? What about quad core processors? What about touch screens? When new technology becomes available and possible, it expands. Its not copying. Get past that infantile school yard way of thinking. We all do things that we've seen others do. Apple is copying HTC by using larger pixels. Apple is copying Nokia by using a plastic body and using various colors. Apple is copying the Motorola Atrix with the fingerprint scanner. Sound stupid right? Because it is. There is no copying going on. It's the natural evolution of technology.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:01 7

27. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

Why announce this 1 day after Apple's event? 64-bit processors supposedly have no benefit to mobile devices today whatsoever and Google's OS doesn't won't even allow 64-bit apps to work. So then what exactly is the functional purpose of adding this feature? There is none. Samsung is copying just for copying-sake so STFU with your preachy BS.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:33 2

38. TheM16 (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Aug 2013)

Jealousy maybe? Or to get people’s attention again cuz all eyes on Apple at the moment =)

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 06:33 2

73. tedkord (Posts: 13894; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

As had been explanted ad nauseum here, the benefit comes when devices start exceeding 4gb of ram.

It's like buying a 4k TV now. You will still be getting only 1080 content until 4k content becomes available. But it is future proof.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 15:05

136. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

Samsung will be putting the 64-bit processor in future smartphones, Will the S5 have 4 gigs of ram? Very unlikely. Will it have the 64-bit processor? Most definitely. Will Google bring 64-bit support at all this year? Who knows.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:57

91. suneeboy (Posts: 201; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)

Preachy BS? So as soon as Apple increases the screen size or ups the resolution of their phone to 1080p you better be the first moron on these boards trolling about how Apple copied.

Also, why aren't you trolling about Apple copying Android with the control center and quick settings? What about swipe to close apps in iOS7? You're too stupid to even think that far. You just quack like a duck online, "Copy, Copy, Copy, Copy". Like a little kid.

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