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Samsung might have broken smartphone sales record, outsold Apple iPhones by 20 million in Q2?

0. phoneArena posted on 17 Jul 2012, 02:09

Samsung might turn out to be the big winner in the second quarter of 2012, selling much more smartphones than Apple and beating Nokia in feature phone sales by an even wider margin…

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posted on 17 Jul 2012, 08:58 1

64. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

If an iphone had to process what a typical high end iphone had to process, then it will lag.
You can literally get tens of thousands free ringtone/sounds on an Android phone - non-rooted - and assign them for specific email accounts, people, sms, etc. You have to buy them with APPLE on itunes. If that is not true, then the iphone users I know definitely are clueless.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 09:15 2

65. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

i don't know, i have watched my cousins and friends many times editing songs down on garage band to make ringtones for iphones
i know you can only do this if you have a mac though

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 09:53 3

67. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

Well, let's put one thing to bed:

When I first joined Phone Arena ( September, 2010), this was a website that was fairly evenly divided between Apple and Android fans, with a decent BlackBerry crowd around. No more. Just look at these threads. Android has taken over on this website. With all the customization, UI flavors, manufacturers, and all the form factors, is it any wonder? My point is that the market is reflecting that. Android has something to offer everyone. Apple is a one size fits all. Right now, Samsung is on top, but this could be another company in two years.

But, at the risk of getting thumbs down, I still see Apple as the dominate device in sales. Yes, I know Android as a whole outperforms them. But I see it as a legitimate argument that it is only 1 new model and several older ones. No one device of Android has outsold the 4S. I will be interested to see how sales figures look when the GS3 is on all carriers and in all major markets VS the 4S, but right now it is still the top selling single device. I do not see how that can be argued.

But, just to be sure I tick off everyone evenly, I will also stick to what I said about a year ago: Apple cannot stay on top as they are doing business right now. They just can't innovate fast enough to keep up with Android, who has Google working on software and a dozen manufacturers working on hardware. If WP 8 is as good as it looks, MS and it's manufacturers will have caught up to iOS in only two years. So long as Apple tries to divide it's time on both sides, it will fall behind. It happened to Palm, is happening to BlackBerry, and Samsung gave up on Bada. Reputation will not last forever.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 10:59 2

70. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

careful, logic and a well reasoned argument doesn't go down well around here

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 13:57 1

80. xtian1103 (Posts: 363; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)

of course android phone manufacturers are moving in a fast pace and they definitely should, otherwise they can't cope up with how fast google release it's new OS. look at ICS when it was released and up to this point how many phones could you say has adopted to it? 20% of all android phones maybe, simply bcoz hardwares are not capable enough to handle it. ( save for custom roms probably) and just when they thought the storm is over then came jellybean. OEM's need to upgrade their hardwares as often as they change clothes to catch up with new android OS. they aren't competing with iphone anymore... they are competing to be compatible with every software update. that is the sad truth!

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 18:32

88. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

That is an interesting take on Google.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 14:03 1

81. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i agree with most of that. Single sales device is a misnomer though. 1 choice for top end on the OS doesnt leave a lot of wiggle room. OS to OS is the only comparison.
That said, by the time the SGS4 arrives apple will lose that claim.. or have already lost it to the SGS3 or something else. The Apple ship is out of steam and not innovating. Litigation for "supposed theft" while they are actively stealing from their competitors is their only real game though.

Unless W8 falls flat, which I doubt will happen, iOS will be in 3rd place or darn close to it by say.. 2015. If W8 doesnt capture a large % of the business market within 2 years of launch, I'd be very surprised. And I think that will lead into schools and homes as well (as will android ICS based tablets), which will take a way alot of tablet sales from apple. They dont have much of a lead in the tablet space either.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 18:43

89. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

I think the end of 2013/start of 2014 will really have answered a ton of questions about MS and their gamble on W8 as an ecosystem, BB10, and Apple's litigation strategy. I am sure the next iPhone will be a huge success, but with each generation, Apple has to deal with tougher competition, a public that see's a new iPhone that is not much different from the last iPhone, and their app lead is no longer that much of a factor. Google isn't coming off of first place anytime soon. So Apple had better realize that it's competition is really behind it, gunning for it's second place standing, and stop worrying about the OS ahead of it.

posted on 17 Jul 2012, 12:34 2

77. xtian1103 (Posts: 363; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)

good job samsung. it's no surprise you sold those amount of phones, but let us not forget that samsung has a wide array of phones to chose from. asia, being the biggest market has the galaxy x, y, z, ace, duo, duo s, champ, champ wifi, querty etc as the best sellers. don't tell me galaxy line sold all those 50 million figures coz it's not. revenuewise it's still apple coz it would take you maybe 10 pcs of feature phones sold to match the price of a single 16gb iphone 4s unlocked. just saying.

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