Samsung built A7 processor rocks the new Apple iPhone 5s

Samsung has provided many of the parts for the Apple iPhone and Apple iPad over the years; but this year, there were some who believed that Apple had reached an agreement with TSMC to replace Samsung as the provider of the A7 processor that drives the Apple iPhone 5s. But apparently that deal won't take affect until 2014...
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134 Comments

27. ghaniosman

Posts: 78; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

So '2x better performance than previous generation processor' and the 'world' s 1st 64-bit processor for mobile' credit goes to $AM$UNG!!! WOOHOOO!!

58. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Wrong buddy! Samsung manufactures and assembles the chip, not design them. Apple designs there software and hardware, but are not in the manufacturing business. Saying samsung designed the A7 is like saying Foxconn designed the iphone.

71. Long1

Posts: 399; Member since: May 18, 2013

You are wrong. It's Samsung's techology: "suspect that the processor will utilize Samsung's 28-nanometer Hi K metal Gate. If that prediction proves accurate, it would mean Apple is using the same process as the Galaxy S4's Exynos Application processor."http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/20/samsung-confirmed-to-be-manufacturer-of-apples-new-a7-chip-in-iphone-5s

64. HansGoneInsane unregistered

Samsung builds the CPU as Apple designed and engineered it. Do you want to see Apple's creation in action? Here is a very good link to benchmarks. The summary in short: The iPhone 5S clearly beats the competition. Reading the article teaches people how Android manufacturers fool their customers with specs. http://gizmodo.com/iphone-a7-chip-benchmarks-forget-the-specs-it-blows-e-1350717023

79. LionStone

Posts: 1048; Member since: Dec 10, 2010

Hey that's great! ... for a tiny 4" screen! lol!

65. rf1975

Posts: 264; Member since: Aug 01, 2011

Lol, So according to your logic, iPhone credit should goes to hon hai Ltd (Foxconn). Be little educated before comment.

73. Long1

Posts: 399; Member since: May 18, 2013

It's not the same. Apple here use Samsungs's technology: "suspect that the processor will utilize Samsung's 28-nanometer Hi K metal Gate. If that prediction proves accurate, it would mean Apple is using the same process as the Galaxy S4's Exynos Application processor."http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/20/samsung-confirmed-to-be-manufacturer-of-apples-new-a7-chip-in-iphone-5s

3. SlimSoulja86

Posts: 660; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

No Samsung hate. iPhone is just designed by Apple but engineered by Samsung. So who is better? the designer or the engineer?

8. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

Doesn't Samsung just manufacture the processors? I'm under the impression that Apple is working with Samsung because they can make large quantities fast. So when TSMC takes over, will the processors be exactly the same or will they be different?

24. hung2900

Posts: 966; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

No it doesnt. Manufacturing a SoC following a design is not the same as making clothing. The designer and the engineer have to coorperate to complete a design that is manufacture-able. So in most cases the "designer" like Apple cannot bring this design to other manufacturer like TSMC

39. robinlim85

Posts: 86; Member since: May 03, 2013

wait...apple not doing anything right..dumdroid fans told me that yea right,just somehow when apple coorperate samsung in doing a lame outdated dual core design,it outperform samsung own quad core design by a mile,with half the ram btw

120. PostalJim

Posts: 46; Member since: Sep 01, 2011

Comparing an iPhone to an Android is not fair. iPhones are made to look pretty, be simple to use, and please the masses. Android does soooooo much more than iOS. Any phone could run great if it just texts, posts, calls, and plays Candy Crush Saga.

42. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Therefore there will be massive differences between the two. The other problem being that while Samsung is very reliable for quantities and quality, TSMC is not. So next year is going to be hilarious.

53. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

Well of course they have to cooperate. To what extent is the question. Unless Samsung has some special machinery that other companies like TSMC don't have (which is possible), I don't see why TSMC can't make an almost identical processor.

74. Long1

Posts: 399; Member since: May 18, 2013

Wrong. Apple use here Samsung's 28-nanometer Hi K metal Gate. Apple is using the same process as Exynos Application processor.http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/20/samsung-confirmed-to-be-manufacturer-of-apples-new-a7-chip-in-iphone-5s

108. tedkord

Posts: 17365; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Apple doesn't design their processors from the ground up. They're modified ARM designs. They take a reference design and tweak it, just like Samsung has done with it's Exynos line longer.

52. AKumar47

Posts: 48; Member since: Sep 11, 2013

OS vs OS... no such individual was born like a jarhead, it is just how they nurture their brains...this two giants had one thing in common controlled by apples patency within their own circumstances... if they will cut their bridge of contracts, well then let the real battle begins...

4. GrapeEyes

Posts: 248; Member since: Sep 01, 2013

In this situation, Samsung is in the best position. However Samsung should try it's best to keep Apple buying its processors, becuase Apple sells a lot of phones and why would you want to give that money to someone else.

43. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Because Samsung themselves are having to outsource their own chips because Apple keeps taking their capacity. Hence why there are a handful exynos based devices out there. If apple leaves, likely it will have nil affect on Samsung. It'll actually be better since it will be cheaper for Samsung.

59. robinlim85

Posts: 86; Member since: May 03, 2013

weirdly samsung takes on orders thats disadvantage to them great logic by you,even samsung insider baffle with what you said what i heard is that samsung executive crying and begging for apple business,and they send sexy hot korean female exec to bed with tim cook just to get the orders again

62. Spikes9s

Posts: 52; Member since: Aug 09, 2013

Exactly Samsung really needs to do some sexist aproach to get an order from Apple, then you hit your head while turning in your bed and all of a suden you... WOKE UP... iPeasant

80. bigstrudel

Posts: 602; Member since: Aug 20, 2012

You're way off. If Apple leaves...they just go to another chip fab. And Samsung loses a ton of money. Money that they spend on endless adds and R&D which is exactly what's keeping Samsung competitive.

109. tedkord

Posts: 17365; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Actually, if Apple leaves, Samsung will no longer need to outsource for CPUs for it's own smartphones (which they sell many more of than Apple). Samsung is in a no lose situation, being vertically integrated.

121. PostalJim

Posts: 46; Member since: Sep 01, 2011

Yeah. It's the little bit of change they make off those chips. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with selling a Bajillion devices every month.

134. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

Regardless of who loses more money, Samsung needs to find another diamond mine. Apple resources won't last forever, especially when they don't care about the non high end markets and rely on 3 or 4 products only. In their iphone 5 peak it sold out in minutes and wasn't available for awhile. With the 5s most people in BC can just walk into the store and pick one up until today. With the iphone 6, if this trend continues, the GS5 will be the bigger ticket. Samsung is more than prepared, it isn't just Apple that buys off them. Everyone does really.

5. aayupanday

Posts: 582; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

And What about the GPU ? Is it the PowerVR Rogue?

81. bigstrudel

Posts: 602; Member since: Aug 20, 2012

It is. Produces equal results to the beefy Adreno 330 in the TRex benchmark (offscreen of course).

91. aayupanday

Posts: 582; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

Figured it out... It's the PowerVR G6430 Rogue 28nm GPU.... A true BeasT. AnandTech have done some awesome anaylsis of the CPU/GPU performance of the iPhone 5S. Can expect the Rogue G6630 to be powering the iPad 5.

6. SonyPS4

Posts: 347; Member since: May 21, 2013

CMOS sensor - Sony Display - Sharp or LG DRAM - Elpida Nand flash - SK Hynix Module for wifi - Murata Audio chip - Cirrus Logic Touchscreen Controller - Broadcom

16. taikucing unregistered

And iFans think all iPhone parts are from Apple
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