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Samsung bid for stay on GALAXY Nexus denied, but Google has software update for workaround

0. phoneArena posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:40

Last night, Judge Koh denied Samsung's request for a stay on the Samsung GALAXY Tab 10.1 injunction and tonight it is the injunction on the Samsung GALAXY Nexus that Judge Koh upheld by denying Samsung a stay...

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posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:45 34

1. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

If you can't beat em, vow thermonuclear war on them! Steve jobs vowed thermonuclear war and it turns out to be patent missiles. Patents than never should be granted or awarded for thwarting technology and competition in a free, capitalistic America. iDisgusted >(

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:59 12

5. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

Patent missiles, that's the best you can do Apple? At least when Steve Jobs vowed to destroy Android, I think he meant it from the heart and from a technology perspective. These embarrassing, frivolous lawsuits are simply outrageous, egregious, preposterous and I cannot imagine even the herd backing these type of technology stunting lawsuits!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 11:58

85. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Jobs authorized the lawsuits that Apple brought on others. In fact nearly all lawsuits in court now were authorized by him several months before. Im sure Jobs wanted to win purely by innovation and capability, but also understand that the way Google operates that it would have been nearly impossible to do it through these means alone, so the patent lawsuits were to at least hamper Google's efforts.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:20 3

12. CupZ83 (Posts: 18; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)

obama bans capitalism in this country so therefore it no longer exists sorry :(

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:44 7

20. chadrick0814 (unregistered)

Obviously, Wall Street has really suffered with the Dow Jones being at 7800 on the last day of Bush and over 12500 today. But, I think you're on the wrong site. Here's a link to the site you're looking for....


posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:59 16

30. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

This is Phone Arena not some political site. Please talk about phones not politics.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 00:03 5

31. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

oh ya and the private sector is "doing fine" am i right?

and all of those gains were due to wall street itself not obama's ridiculous policies..

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:33

74. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

in the 3rd year of Bush's term it was almost exactly the same 12000.. but back then, the dollar was worth more than it is today. It also climbed much higher than that until the housing bubble burst in 2008. A housing bill that was penned by democrats and just signed by bush who wasnt smart enough to read the thing. Who credited themselves with writing that bill? Pelosi, dodd, frank, ect. Oh and what lawyer was using public pressure and protest rallys to force banks to do sub prime lending because they refused to comply with the housing bill at first? Oh yea.. that would be Obama working with ACORN.. the now defunct voter fraud group.

its easy to make broad sweeping judgement with little fact. its much more fun to actually see what happened though.

And when you compare presidents. You compare them for the same term.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:40

77. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

And if you want to get really specific. when was the biggest market crash of them all? When did we lose the most money? When Obama officially won the election. Wall street had a crap fit about that. The very tail end of 2008 into the beginning of 2009 was the biggest drop in recent memory and set the stock market back to its 1997 trading average. If you think elections dont affect the market, think again.


posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:07

86. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Its funny that the stock did happen the way it did when Obama was elected, because he ended being just as friendly to them, if not more, than Bush was when he was in office. Obama has really dropped the ball on having wall street and the banks be held responsible for their reckless abandon that led us to the repression and housing bubble that we are still under.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:50 5

2. CommentBoxEnforcer (Posts: 99; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)

What would Brian boitano do?

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:34 1

75. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

hed probably kick an ass or two!!!

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:54 10

3. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Great. Now everyone who gets a Galaxy nexus in the US can't use search locally, thanks to Apple. :\

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:46 3

22. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

you mean on VRZ only.. on Sprint is not even a top 5 device...

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 01:24 8

42. ilia1986 (unregistered)

It doesn't matter. A product is a product. And now it's owners have one less feature thanks to Apple.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:28 2

58. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

ohh if you dont have the feature is thanks to Samsung for copying...

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 07:15 4

73. Zayuh24 (Posts: 149; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

Your comments really piss me off for lack of better words...

One, how can you COPY common sense? If you ask for the weather, you expect the answer to be your local area FIRST without any kind of navigating to find it, right?

Most, if not all of Apple's patents are so much BS that I'm still curious how they were even awarded. The entire patent system is a dud.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 18:00

88. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

I think it's mostly the Patent Office's fault. Whoever granted the patent just doesn't know what s/he is doing and gives them out willy-nilly. Knowing this, Apple will submit multiple applications for essentially the same patent and hope at least one passes through, not to mention usage of some fancy words in the applications to make it look like they've actually come up with something with "flash of genius".

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:36 2

64. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)

Well thank Samsung for infringing on patents.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 09:48 4

78. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)

How does Apple keep getting away with this garbage?

These are patents that are loosely defined yet strictly binding...patents for things that ANY smartphone would use as a standard feature. The patent system in this country is messed up, Apple is getting away with way too much...and the fact that this judge is completely on Apple's side does not help matters either.

At least other companies like Motorola, Nokia, etc. usually make settlements or demand reimbursement for others using their patents; Apple has to sue, sue, sue until the phone is off the market. Where's the professionalism in that? That doesn't make you look like a respectable company; that makes you look like a bully. A power-hungry, greedy, self-centered, ignorant bully.

It's gotten to the point where I don't even care if someone infringes on their patents. Apple stole their way to the top, and to see them go nuts with these lawsuits and injunctions for things that they never came up with in the first place (and act like they did) just makes me sick. Sooner or later, Apple's going to get theirs.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:56

87. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

If it's Google's Android workaround, it affects ALL devices.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 22:57 8

4. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

Patent troll alert!!!

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:04 7

6. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)

so how exactly will this effect voice commands without a connection?
also how did apple time this to take light away from 4.1? the judge chose when to deliver the verdict not apple.

either way i think frand needs some amendments to include more common use features so apple cant sue over every little thing. features that the user sees and that are obviously big sellers for an os should be protected. but not things that end users dont even see much less think of.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:26 9

17. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Specially when this is so old on android

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 02:38

65. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I also just thought of something.....how come Google Desktop doesnt help them in this case? Didnt Apple get a patent for something that applied to desktop PC's and it was applied to phones?

How come prior art always seems to get overlooked in Apple cases?!?!?

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 08:37 1

76. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i was wondering the same thing. universal search has been on android since the beginning. When did apple get it? If its such a "big patent" why didnt they pull it out first when android was still just gaining steam and they started suing?

More BS. I think like 90% of what everyone is suing over these days needs to go to FRAND. It's complete BS. And we need to have a class of judges that are specifically trained in tech and patents to handle this stuff.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:04 18

7. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

This is what is great about companies like Google and Samsung, they take it in their stride even when wrongfully accused instead of whining and taking it out on other companies. Being a true innovative company, you have tons of workarounds.

"Oh, the Galaxy Tab's corners too squarish for you?" Galaxy Tab 10.1N, Fixed.

"Oh, we can't use bounce in our OS?" Blue edge glow, Fixed.

"Oh, we can't use rectangle folders?" Circle folders. Fixed.

Now imagine if Apple were in their shoes.

"What do you mean we can't use that notification bar? But there's no other way to implement or edit it, that should be a FRAND!" Problem not fixed, move on to sue other companies.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:07 5

9. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

They can have a notification bar that slides from the bottom :)

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:45 7

21. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Honeycomb and ICS Tablets already use that.

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 23:49 2

24. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

yes but nobody has Android tablets... so

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