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Samsung Galaxy Note 8 with Snapdragon 835 SoC gets benchmarked

0. phoneArena posted on 12 Aug 2017, 19:19

If you've seen the benchmark scores for the Exynos-based Galaxy Note 8, then it's time to compare them to those of the Qualcomm-powered model, which have just been spotted at Geekbench...

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posted on 12 Aug 2017, 22:54

54. Leo_MC (Posts: 2949; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)


I'm sure somebody (on xda maybe) was able to make an Android version just as "stripped of features" as iOS and beat the crap out of the iPhone.
What, no one did this? Ever? I can't believe it...

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 22:56 1

55. sissy246 (Posts: 4208; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


This^^^^^
It would have a hard time running a phone like the note 8 with all the features.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 23:03 1

57. kiko007 (Posts: 5674; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


No it wouldn't. Do any of you know anything about SoCs lol? If the A11 runs iOS like a fine tuned machine, any version of Android, no matter how loaded, will run much better than it would with an SD835 if offered the same A11. Optimizations aside, Apple's chips are just... miles better. There's no way of looking at these numbers objectively and coming to any conclusion outside of that fact.

Besides, isn't saying "well it'd suck running Android" basically admitting that Android is coded sloppily? If it takes SO MUCH hardware prowess to run it, why do people consistently say it's "buttery smooth"? The 835 is about half the performance package the A10 is, and it runs Android perfectly fine the majority of the time. Make up your damn minds!

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 05:27 1

102. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1371; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


If many people on PA here would for once just do 5 minutes of research, they would know that CROSS PLATFORM benchmarks accurately represent actual performance of the SoC/chip.

Just like how a Intel CPU/AMD CPU scores exactly the same scores on Linux/Ubunutu/Windows/Mac OS when these benchmarks are ran despite these 4 OS'Es being quite widly different

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 23:36 4

63. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I think it would too. We'll never know.

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 05:02 1

100. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1371; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


The A11 would run Android even better because it's a superior SoC that can churn out more calculations per second vs other SoC's. Also due to Android handling UI on only 1 core/thread always, the superior single core score will make it essentially never have jank

A10 and A9 would also run Android very well

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 06:37 1

104. Plasticsh1t (Posts: 2416; Member since: 01 Sep 2014)


Could you please explain if you don't mind why other SoC's utilizes hexa, octa, or even deca core processors if only single or dual cores are sufficient?

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 06:50 1

107. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1371; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Single core is definitely not sufficient in today's world at all despite a single core actually being able to handle many things at once.

It's like this, you can fit the performance of 8 weaker cores into 2 more powerful cores (like what Apple does) and it works incredibly well on mobile OS (iOS and Android) because many apps aren't heavily multi threaded and only use 2-3 main powerful cores(, you will get better performance using 75% of two powerful cores vs 25% of 6-8 weaker cores) Applications off the bat benefit from faster single core performance because developers don't need to do any work at all for their software to take advantage instantly

Many people don't realize that strong single core performance is directly correlated to having strong multi core performance. If you have weak single core performance, you will need more cores to make up for multi core performance, but you can't just throw more cores at software and expect it to automatically run better, developers need to put in a ton of work to get good scaling off more cores and obviously many developers don't have the budget/man power or really time to do so

Many OEM'S use these hexacore/octacore SoC's because it sounds a lot better on the spec sheet vs just a "measly dual core".

We are actually now seeing from ARM, Qualcomm transitioning back to focusing on improving IPC/single core performance because it's a lot more important and meaningful then just adding on more weaker cores that are really never going to be utilized fully properly but onlyin the most optimized and very well coded apps

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 07:05

110. Plasticsh1t (Posts: 2416; Member since: 01 Sep 2014)


Does heavy mobile games use all the cores and gpu like pc games or it works differently from pc?

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 07:10

112. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1371; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


Yes, a game like Vainglory( a actually really good looking mobile game), on Android it actually does utilize about 4 cores actively because it's very well optimized already and the Vulkan version of it on Android runs even better for devices that support it

This is why games would benefit from Vulkan run time asap(pretty much the equivalent of Metal on iOS) because for Android and also Windows and really any OS , games that start running in Vulkan mode will then be able to tap into the full power of the hardware, every hardware feature of the GPU, all the cores you have, etc

A game like Clash of Clans and Temple Run, etc are definitely not utilizing more than like 2 cores because these games run fine on just a little bit of hardware power

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 07:17

113. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1371; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


PC games actually have this same issue , many games are STILL not utilizing more than a few cores and so many people's CPU'S are not even being tapped into fully, thus people getting less performance than expected, when the CPU isn't being fully tapped into, these super powerful GPU'S on PC'S than can't be 100% Fully utilized

Vulkan/DirectX12 aims to directly address these issues in PC games

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 07:38

114. Plasticsh1t (Posts: 2416; Member since: 01 Sep 2014)


Well explained. Thank you so much for giving me some of your very valuable time. Really appreciated. Cheers.

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 07:02

109. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1371; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


I can't explain it too well because I'm on mobile and won't be near a computer for a little while but really both solutions work well. Having good single core performance per core though will always be important for the foreseeable future if you want a competent SoC

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 07:06

111. Plasticsh1t (Posts: 2416; Member since: 01 Sep 2014)


You have done well. Thank you for your time.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 22:15 1

43. Mr.Pussy (Posts: 159; Member since: 16 Feb 2017)


If SD835 run IOS it will crushed that stupid A11 crabs. A11? Go pay University Of Wisconsin some more please lol. Hahaha!

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 14:09

137. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Bro the A11 will be one of, if not the fastest chips this year. Im not gonna hate on Apple, but I will criticize them, cause I'm a customer of theirs. Apple designs a killer chip, and Samsung and TMSC build it for them lol.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 23:41 1

64. HansP (Posts: 196; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)


I remember the days when Apple fans were all about useful features and not about unnoticeable performance advantages.
Sounds like Apple is grasping for smaller and smaller straws these days.
Next year, I guess, the grasped straws will be something like: "Apple has a much bigger and glaring logo on their devices than anyone else! Yay!"

posted on 13 Aug 2017, 00:29 1

73. kiko007 (Posts: 5674; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


What are you talking about? Apple has basically ALWAYS been SoC king.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 19:53 7

6. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Just unveil this beauty, and let me get to the preorder page on AT&T. Black or Blue Note 8, and I cant wait to get it. Screw the perfectly fast benchmarks, I want the features, S-Pen, versatility, looks, battery life, features, and features.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 20:45 1

12. GoTstan (Posts: 163; Member since: 25 Jul 2015)


Samsung killed the note line.....
Long live the mighty note 4

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 20:59 6

17. SupermanayrB (Posts: 1181; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


I went from the Note 4 to the Note 7. Note 7>Note 4 in EVERY area.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 21:22 2

22. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Only thing I'd want from the Note 4, is the IR blaster. Samsung is about to kill it on the 23rd.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 21:50 1

35. tedkord (Posts: 14667; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Hope you get it. I personally never used it.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 21:58 2

38. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I miss the blaster. It was my remote. Sadly, it's dying, as smart software takes over.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 21:49 2

33. tedkord (Posts: 14667; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Every Note has been better than the last (obviously, since each one since the 4 has been the best phone available)

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 20:56 1

16. path45th (Posts: 57; Member since: 11 Sep 2016)


I'd rather go for a Vivo or similar Chinese brand. Samsungs are just overpriced and overhyped.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 21:07 4

18. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Enjoy it.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 22:23

44. Khyron (Posts: 310; Member since: 28 Sep 2015)


Does Samsung can make a more powerful soc than a -series every year
but this will result in higher price for
Samsung devices
For samsung less is more
Put less transistor keep the CPU building process cheap and sell a lot of
well balanced socs
apple just put more transistor in a-series socs
Socs to increase IPC and keep higher price
This is why always a-series socs perform well In single core scores and make task a little faster than Qualcomm and Samsung socs

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 22:46 2

52. Flash (Posts: 1895; Member since: 19 May 2017)


Samsung never crushes it in benchmarks nor real world use. TouchWiz has too much lag.

posted on 12 Aug 2017, 23:11 6

59. darkkjedii (Posts: 25553; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


This is every post for you lol. Go to bed batty.

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