Samsung Galaxy NEXUS vs S II vs Motorola DROID RAZR vs iPhone 4S: spec comparison

The last 24 hours, or let's just call it the last couple of weeks, have been kind of crazy. After the iPhone 4S was unveiled, now we have two brand new top notch devices in the Android camp and a major update of Google's platform. You know what that brings up...
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27. willywill_evo

Posts: 162; Member since: Jan 05, 2011

i saw the pics that engadget posted and LOL..most of the pic the camara wasn't can tell they moving while trying to take the pic

16. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Question for Victor H. -- how does account for iCloud with 5GB of free storage? Or more GB if you paid for it? By the way, it's amazing how Apple can run its mobile OS on 512 MB of RAM while all the other android devices uses more RAM, which drains battery life.

42. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

troll somewere else ardent.. ugh. how does apple account for google services are FREE PERIOD? the difference in RAM is negligable on power consumption. also, newer chips can fit more memory on a stick while using less over all power. Apple runs its OS on less ram because it does less. If iOS actually did something other than be an app launcher with android notifications, it would need a lot more ram. Android is many many times more complex and feature rich than iOS. It is apples and oranges. Its like whining that you can run word on a basic netbook, so why get the upgraded computer... lol your arguements.. like always.. make no sense.

59. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

The village idiot strikes again

68. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

you shouldnt be so hard on yourself taco. :)

92. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Yup, the babbling village idiot. Is this like how you tried to ambush me on gross profits and it blew up on your face. remixma, this is what you don't know -- it's harder to write code to run at 512 MB of RAM than 1 GB of RAM. remixfa, you just are just argumentative because I proved you wrong so many times that it's getting under your skin.

104. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

lol.. ok.. whatever u wanna think ardent. just keep thumbing yourself up.. since u stopped, noone else is doing it for you. so if thats true, then how comes android can run at less than 512mb and above 512. its not hard to write code for a system that doesnt use a lot of background resources. please stop trying to pretend u know what ur talking about.. its not working. not argumentative.. trying to conserve thread space for people with a point.. which you dont have.

18. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

One more thing, the thickness is not where the phone is the thinness. For example, the RAZR IS NOT 7.1 mm where the camera is located. Recall how the British agency supervising advertisements challenged Samsung as the thinnest smartphone. Let's call a spade a spade.

23. warlockz

Posts: 156; Member since: Oct 10, 2011

Whatever company has the best plan deals is the number one factor I look for, than I worry about the phone. I am with vwz so sg2 is not an option but neither is nexus as I don't think I want to commit to a two yr contract wit vwz even if I still have the Unlimited data plan. If other carriers don't offer better plan deals I guess I will be gettinng the nexus from vwz its a no brainer. If sprint was to announce the nexus soon ii would prob go wit them one yr contract and better plan deals and the service in the city I am in is great. Let's see the release date info now....

24. parthpatels007

Posts: 54; Member since: May 27, 2011

why do 60 ppl even want iphone 4s??

49. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

Short list: - Build quality - Apple's ecosystem - Battery life - Apple customer service - Resale value - High App Quality - iCloud services - Jailbreak Elaboration:

55. KayJewelers

Posts: 1; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

-Battery life is nothing special on the 4S. I have been using it non-stop since Saturday. -Customer Service - really? this is your 3rd bullet? How often do you need to call the manufacturer of the phone. I didn't call Motorola ONCE in the 2 years I had the Droid. -Resale value - another pathetic point. How much can you get for a phone after 2 years? This isnt a car, it is a phone. -iCloud services - this just came out a week ago, so you really dont know how good or bad this is. I would rather go slam my head against a wall than read your elaboration. I give you an F. No an F-.


Posts: 701; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

oh and dont forget that if you dont have apple care that costs an extra 99.99$ you dont get any service...

71. arcq12

Posts: 733; Member since: Oct 13, 2011

course you will, it comes with a 1-year warranty and 3 months customer support from Apple.

94. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

If this is a crack against the This is a non-issue that keeps getting brought up. If this is a crack against AppleCare+...double fail. $99 one-time fee to cover your phone's manufacturing and accessories for 2yrs. It also adds 2 occurrences of accidental damage coverage...drop your phone in the toilet, crack it by throwing it off a building, and you get it repaired/replaced for max $49. So, you would pay $197 total to replace your phone twice, plus still have your battery, screen, and accessories covered for 2yrs. Show me a warranty with a better deal.

82. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

I didn't realize children were allowed to post on PhoneArena. If you had read my elaboration, you would understand. 1st, If you've been using the 4S nonstop since Saturday, how is that "nothing special?" Sounds pretty remarkable really. 2nd, Customer Service was my fourth bullet, not my 3rd, and Customer Service isn't just about issues, it's about convenience and peace of mind. I should have elaborated on AppleCare's great warranty....vacuum or chew through your included earbuds or power charger, and they're replaced free. Battery not lasting as long as it used to? Bring in the phone and they'll replace it (haven't had to do this, but it's nice the ability is there). 3rd, Resale value is a GREAT factor. In 7 months I'll still be able to sell my iPhone 4 for well over $300 with warranty, which will more than cover an upgrade to a new phone. 4th, iCloud has been brain-off perfect. It syncs wirelessly automatically each time it's plugged into power, so all playcounts, playlists, ratings, docs, pics, etc are backed up and synced every day. You simply rebutted with zero integrity or credibility. Enjoy slamming your head against the wall, I need better reasons for switching to Android than "I can't read between the lines."

58. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

*build quality is subjective.. drop damage is not.. the iphone fails at durability *android's ecosystem is as feature rich if not more depending on area. the only bonus iOS has is certain game devolpers that android does not have. google's native apps wipe the floor with anything on other OS's though. *battery life is the same or less. the SGS2 and Razr both have higher battery life ratings than the i4s *resale value? the highest resale value comes from a Nexus phone, not an iphone. *high app quality? Its subjective. there are some great apps on iOS, but there are also great apps on android. Android's app quality has improved immensely in the last 2 years. they are on equal footing. *icloud is limited and/or not free.. google's sync is unlimited and free. music syncing on itunes is limited and/or a subscription service. google music is unlimited, free, and availible to use on ANY device with a good web browser. *jailbreak?? lol. Nothing compared to what you can do on a rooted android. Its preference more than anything, but android beats just about every point u made. *

60. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

also we have Minecraft! ;D

88. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

Perhaps I needed to elaborate on what I meant by "ecosystem." The iPhone works flawlessly streaming through AirPlay to AppleTV and iTunes. My entire music collection is on my home server, syncing every night to my phone updating playlists/counts/ratings and is playable throughout the house and wherever I go. iTunes Match will only improve this, as all my 10yr old CD rips and “friends’” music will be upgraded to 256kbps AAC DRM-free quality, and playable from anywhere. It is still compatible with my stereo dock. If you don't like using iTunes, you can still drag/drop music/videos to the device with SharePod ( I hate to say it, but everything in this environment "just works." I need a great reason to leave that ecosystem. And don’t tell me about battery life “ratings.” We want real-world examples. I last a full day of medium to heavy use all the time. Android users (GSII, Droid X, Evo 4G, Evo 3D) all around me often say, “How do you still have power?” Google music beta is just that, BETA. They don’t have pricing yet. I would argue that Google’s implementation is more limited by the sheer fact that it is simply your current quality music being uploaded and streamed. Upgrade my old CD rips without me spending days doing so, then we’ll talk. Jailbreak was meant to be the icing on the cake of everything listed before it. With everything else in the list and the ability to customize with jailbreaking, I just need very compelling arguments to dissuade me from Apple’s ecosystem. So far, your rants have done nothing to deter.

96. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

just goes to show how much you know. there's plenty of cloud services in the Android Market and Google Music works just fine even if it is just in Beta. words won't be enough to deter you because you're just too comfortable with iOS but you should try to understand that this many of us aren't just blindly following Android for no reason. it's pretty f**king great.

102. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

You see, Thump3rDX17, you say "Google Music works just fine..." This doesn't convince me to join the Android world. I know Android offers a lot, and I know people don't blindly follow Android, that's not my point. The original point of me posting was to mention some reasons why people would choose the iPhone 4S over the RAZR or Nexus. Perfect recent example: Was going to switch bank accounts from bank A to bank B with higher interest rate. Found out you had to pay monthly for online billpay, so the extra interest earned was negligible. Coupled with having to move over all my "payees" and re-setup autopay and direct deposit, I wasn't convinced to switch. Now had I been a member of bank B all along, I would probably be perfectly happy, but bank B didn't give me reason enough to leave bank A. For me, bank A is Apple, bank B is Android/WP7/etc.

105. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

vette.. noone is trying to convince you. we have a better chance of convincing taco and ardent that they really are as dumb as everyone tells them. its about preference and comparison. if you prefer apple, thats up to you, just like prefering google is up to me. it sounds like your home is completely vested in apple.. from which there is little chance that u will escape because of the costs involved.. if u wanted to or not. google music works great for me. I loaded up my entire library for free.. regardless of where i got the music from, and it plays on any pc, android capable device, or anything with a good browser... including your iphone. unlike itunes where unless you bought everything from itunes, u need to pay for itunes match where it will try to match your non itunes songs to itunes. thats great.. unless like me you have a lot of live recordings and such, for which there is no itunes match. what do u do with that? you cant do anything... that music is just unsyncable. On google that will never be a problem... and my entire library is loaded for free.. just like it auto syncs every contact, picture, app, email, ect ect ect that I have. u like your apple, i like my android. lets smile and hold hands.

116. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

remixfa, Haha...nice reply. :-) One small point: Agreed iTunes Match may not "match" your live recordings, but you can still upload them to the cloud, regardless. They will upload untouched (not upgraded), and allowed the same capabilities as your matched content. While it is $25/yr and 25,000 song limit for this service, as stated, Google music is still beta. When it is fully released, we shall see what pricing and limitations it will enforce. Obviously these two services have their pros and do iOS and Android. I also never tried to set out the tone "Hey fools, convince me!!" I apologize if I came across that way. I think right now we are bank A and bank B...and that's all good. I'm ready to make amends!! :-P

130. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

:) ok, maybe im missing something, but the whole point of itunes match was so that you could "upload" (even though your not) music that you didnt buy on itunes. itunes will not sync/play music that is not itunes bought/found through match... as far as i understand. my live music therefor would never stream regardless. is that not correct?

136. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

remixfa, I'll try an example: 9,000 songs total in my local library. (from multiple sources: CD rips, iTunes downloads, converted songs from youTube, and albums from "friends") 8,500 songs get "matched," these now exist in my "iTunes cloud" as 256kbps AAC DRM-free without uploading any of them. 500 did not match (meaning they do no exist in iTunes' catalog of 20 million+ songs), these get uploaded from my PC to the "iTunes cloud" All 9,000 songs are now in the iTunes cloud, allowing streaming/downloading of them to any of 10 total devices (5 can be PCs, all 10 can be iDevices). Some notes Apple hasn't cleared up for me yet: - Not sure if the limit is 20,000 or 25,000 songs. I'll be fine for at least the next 10 yrs, hopefully they'll have upgradeable accounts by then. - Not sure what happens to these 256kbps quality songs if you cancel the iTunes Match service. - What happens to local "old" copy of the matched songs? Archived? Deleted? Choice?

143. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

you dont own what match finds.. they will disseapear. you are basically "renting" them. you only own itunes if you buy through itunes

106. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

yeah, i kind of let you know i understood your line of thought there but oh well. i find Google's Music service sufficient. it does what it's supposed to do. i'm not sure if it does it as well as iCloud but i don't really see it as a viable trade-off compared to the other things you'll gain from Android. 4G for one thing. Cloud services are only as good as the networks they use to make them work.

132. XiphiasGladius

Posts: 813; Member since: Aug 21, 2011

Jailbreak? seriously you buy an iPhone just to jailbreak it? regards to you. . .

137. vette21man

Posts: 351; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

XiphiasGladius, you completely missed the point...reread the whole conversation.

28. jrocka01

Posts: 19; Member since: Apr 27, 2011

How come it doesn't seem to be a big issue that the iPhone 4S is NOT 4G/LTE? This thing is selling out and can't even access the fastest network speeds available right now.
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