Rumored Sony Honami mini won't downsize the specs

The latest trend with handset manufacturers is to make a"mini" version of their flagship phone. Samsung, HTC and even Motorola has done this; now, there is speculation that Japanese based OEM Sony will do the same with its upcoming new flagship model. The Sony i1 Honami is expected to be the first of Sony's new camera-centric phones and is scheduled to be introduced September 4th in Berlin...
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39. wrm2013

Posts: 231; Member since: Mar 28, 2013

Why does making a phone with a screen smaller mean the camera, ram, and processor has to suck?

42. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Because without a larger screen to make the device bigger, there's less room to expand the battery unless you make it extremely thick. What's the use of having a top of the line processor in a smaller device if the battery dies half way through the day? As Shatter explains in comment #38, it's like comparing desktops to laptops. Desktops allow higher performing parts because there's more room to work with to allow better thermal management and power consumption.

38. Shatter

Posts: 2036; Member since: May 29, 2013

"(mini doesnt mean kill the specs)" Yes it does, mini can not get rid of as much heat or have as big of a battery, it also has much less space to work with. That means they must dumb down the parts to keep the phone at an acceptable temperature and have good battery life. Think desktop vs laptop when comparing small phones to phablets/tablets.

22. SonyPS4

Posts: 347; Member since: May 21, 2013

If this is true then it gonna kill Samsung and HTC with their fake flagship mini.

45. maccess

Posts: 742; Member since: Jan 16, 2013


58. anleoflippy

Posts: 596; Member since: Jan 03, 2013

Yes it will.

61. amats69

Posts: 1527; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

I agree that if this is true it will kill samsung and htc mini...but the "fake" thing sounds like fanboyism....

23. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

If true this is great but I hope they don't keep huge bezels where its not that much smaller than the original like the one to the one mini but try and make it one of the smallest 4.3" phones aka like the s4 mini which if it only had a 720p screen and 16gb mem I would have considered but the good thing about the s4 mini is that even though its 4.3" its almost identical in size to the 4" iPhone 5...if Sony manage to keep the phone small and indeed have the said spec than I think it will be am awesome device that will be considered by many. To be honest for me it doesn't even need to have the s800, 600 is more than good enough for me, but the screen to bezel ratio for me is important.

28. mafflambo

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 18, 2013

Totally agree.. screen to bezel ratio and screen resolution are very important

35. yudi.nemesis unregistered

Yeah sure Ray 3 “will not be considered by many” people if Sony keep those huge bezels like 4.3” Xperia V (wich only 4.4 mm taller and 3.7 mm wider). forget about powerful chipset, big battery, beautiful and sharp HD display, premium materials, class leading camera or dust and waterproofing because screen to bezel ratio is the most important things that any phone should have. I think any 4.3” phones with thicker (even only few mm more) bezels than S4 Mini, will make any normal human not be able to use it and there is likely to injure their hands. I also hope Apple make bezelles Iphone 5S, so it will not longer almost identical in size to 4.3” S4 Mini.

25. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

Good to see the slow news weekend end with positive Sony news.

26. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

"The Sony Honami mini has a code name of Ray3." Don't remind me of that reviewer.

27. Eonnaydra

Posts: 217; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

It would be a mistake to call it Mini.People will think that it will have downsized specs and performance.It will be a lot of confusion. Anyway,if this rumour is gonna be true I will definitely buy this phone.It will be a hit.

30. Jonathan41

Posts: 532; Member since: Mar 22, 2012

Nice to finally see an Android phone under 4.5" coming out with these specs. Should come crush the annoying "Flagship Android phone are too big to use comfortably" argument.

32. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

I'll wait for full final specs on Sept 4th between the HONAMI or the Z ULTRA.

34. livyatan

Posts: 867; Member since: Jun 19, 2013

Overkill specs for the size? If you have a 4.3'' screen, you won't try to emulate a pc usage on it. I understand a Snapdragon 800 in a Phablet or a 5'' flagship, but on a small 720p screen, the underclocked S600 for example, would be more than enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is a bad phone in any way, but it simply seems like a compact car with a supercar's engine

36. yudi.nemesis unregistered

Not everyone likes the oversized 5 "+ phones, There are many people who want a phone with a reasonable size and the best performance. I guess that's one reason why Iphone sold in the market.

43. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

Very true , I have the s4 and do like it but if the phone was 4.5" with minimal bezel like the s4 it would have almost been the perfect size..the 5" for me is just about usable with hand but 4.5 would be just right..because I've been using large screen devices for a while I don't really want to go back to anything too small which is why I do think 4.5 for many will be perfect with small bezels..the s4 mini is just the right size and I'm pretty sure a 4.5" will fit into that size..I compareds the bezels of the s4 to the mini and the mini has tad bigger bezels so am guessing if they made the bezel size same as the s4 it would be possible..I think OEMS and even some tech writers need to realise having a small screen doesn't mean small device as the actual device size is important..the z10 had a 4.2" screen but was pretty much same size as the the 4.8" s3 yet so many people kept on saying its easier to handle assuming it was a smaller device due to the screen size when in fact it was still as large as some of the large screen devices out there.

56. yudi.nemesis unregistered

I don’t really care about screen to bezel ratio, i’m sure any normal adult human is able to use 4.3”-4.5” phones with thick bezels like Xperia V/SP/ZR or One Mini. for 4.3”-4.5” devices Stereo speakers, Costumizeable LED Notification Light, dust and waterproofing is much more useful than screen to bezel ratio.

59. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

Am just one of those that prefer to get the biggest screen possible out of the smallest form factor.. I just don't like excessive bezels and what annoys me the most is when a screen with a small screen screen is bigger than a phone with a bigger a screen or its the same size as a big phone.. I see it like this, if you going for a small a screen because you want a smaller phone but the bezels make it big as a bigger phone then you might aswel just get that bigger screen phone.. Agree that 4.3-4.5 any normal person can use easily but take the moto X it's 4.7 yet it's like a 4.5" device.. If there's a phone with a large screen In a small form factor vs a small screen in a bigger form factor, for me the bezel the ratio wins cause what's the point of a small screen if it doesn't really give you a small phone.. Again am not asking for super slim bezels but I like the s4 bezel ratio.. The thing with Sony phones is that even though they use onscreen buttons they still have bigger bezels compared to say the s4 which has physical buttons.

41. Bedz81

Posts: 84; Member since: Dec 30, 2012

Remember people, the ZR is a scaled down version of the Z, too bad about it's distribution

46. FaisalWibowo11

Posts: 166; Member since: Aug 12, 2013

I think there is something telling me that the mini version of honami will sell more than the 5" honami. Correct me if i'm wrong. With those specs, the honami mini will surely crush iphone 5s, galaxy s4 mini plus htc one mini, this ain't even a match because it is too one sided.

47. spiderpig2894

Posts: 597; Member since: Jan 10, 2012

Haters. Haters everywhere. Other fanboys hate the downscaled spec minis of other manufacturers now there is a rumor about Sony not downscaling it they bash and troll around. BTW the mini trend is started by Sony for Androids and big manufacturers made it trending

48. AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Might want, need to feel. Sony is on a roll of sorts, hope they can maintain the momentum.

49. xtian1103

Posts: 364; Member since: Feb 11, 2012

Some people here are just quick to Google the specs of the phone and trying hard to find it's pros and cons, when they actually haven't seen and use it. Truly talented persons!

51. oister85

Posts: 508; Member since: Apr 27, 2012

I wonder what carrier is going to have in the u.s

52. keylimejelly

Posts: 22; Member since: Aug 16, 2013

this is a great news for my those 5 friends who refused to accept 5 inch honami now they will definately purchase this mini version i am 1000000% sure

53. Genersis

Posts: 219; Member since: May 29, 2013

I serious doubt it's specs will not be downscaled. If Sony does somehow manage it, and still has a decent battery life and isn't too big, I might consider it. Though, thinking about it, it would probably carry a near flagship price, so maybe not...

54. keylimejelly

Posts: 22; Member since: Aug 16, 2013

RickyD on esato has been told that Honami is better than Lumia 1020 for imaging his source is a photographic artist who works mobile in china and has used and.seen.honami check RickyD's comment-----​6170

57. ollienightly

Posts: 37; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

I wish Qualcomm made a dual-core Krait 400 with Adreno 320/330. Quad-core is so useless when it constantly overheats (and downclocks)
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