Qualcomm late 2015 roadmap leaks out: 14nm FinFet Snapdragon 820 surfaces, 'Taipan' Krait successor due

Qualcomm’s roadmap for the second half of 2015 seems to have leaked out in its entirety, a leak revealing many juicy details about what the best devices of 2015 could run on…
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97. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Funny joke :D Exynos handles EVERY game better ;)

68. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Snapdragon has more balanced architecture. More performance with less power consumption..

94. AsimSiddiq

Posts: 52; Member since: Jan 20, 2015

Wrong I don't, Qualcomm are the best, the s810 has 388 GFlops please google it and do your research properly.

104. jos_031

Posts: 62; Member since: Jun 12, 2012

How about Radio efficiency and integration of Exynos. Qualcomm have upper hand. That is more important for a communication device. I used underclocked Snapdragon 800 powered device. clocked down to 1Ghz from 2.3Ghz

8. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Yes, Qualcomm was caught flat-footed by the 64-bit revolution Apple jumpstarted. They've as much as admitted to it. So now that the competition is pushing out 64-bit chips, their proprietary tech was a year behind. And of course they will continue to use proprietary cores after the 810/808/610, because they need a competitive edge in both CPU and GPU.

57. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Exynos' weakness is graphics. The Adreno 530 will be insanely BEAST! Qualcomm has graphics on lock-down!

70. AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Is it going to out class Maxwell too? Honestly asking, no sarcasm involved. I haven't heard enough about this 530? Shader race is on!

89. vipervoid123

Posts: 163; Member since: Aug 27, 2013

Shader race alrdy meaningless on the introduce of Maxwell. If you didnt realize that.

93. AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

It may not be totally..I'm sure we know who'll win but didn't expect an actual competition GPU wise from QC.

98. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

You must be smoking :D

79. thegeneral7010

Posts: 437; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

As an exynos note 4 user I can tell you that exynos 7 octa is the best processor in 2014 and I think that Samsung started to rule qualcomm since exynos 5430

91. cheetah2k

Posts: 2198; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

You'll always see delays in production of CPU/GPU products due to silicone yields. We've seen it time and time again with the likes of Intel and AMD. I can understand why TSMC isn't being looked at for fab, Apple have them pretty much tied up exclusively - aside from the fact they've had worse issues with yields than everyone else combined, I wouldn't touch them either

2. itsdeepak4u2000

Posts: 3718; Member since: Nov 03, 2012

Wow!!! That's great.

4. GeekMovement unregistered

Getting into octa-cores now, wow, I'll look forward to the Note 5!

5. iialparslan

Posts: 17; Member since: Dec 13, 2014

F**king Super Fast Technology !!

7. Dude2014

Posts: 448; Member since: Feb 12, 2014

I think Apple iPhone 6S will be the first smartphone with 14nm A9 SoC. Or maybe Samsung Note 5 will come with Snapdragon 820 or 16nm Exynos before Apple.

14. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Qualcomm announces their next-gen chips about a year before they arrive in phones. I suspect they'll announce the 815 and 820 by March, but the 820 may not be ready until 1Q16. The 815 we could see by fall in the Note 5, since it's on a larger fab and is similar in execution to both the 810 and Exynos.

10. ernanimachadoalvarenga

Posts: 6; Member since: Apr 20, 2014

"The other one carries the Snapdragon 815 name, and is again an octa-core design, but this time instead of eight TS2 cores there are four TS1 and four TS2 in a big.LITTLE configuration" Just like the Exynos...

12. vipervoid123

Posts: 163; Member since: Aug 27, 2013

TS2 and TS1 is custom core that makes the different ~

13. Gp_Customs

Posts: 269; Member since: Jan 14, 2015

That's right, it took them 2 tears to figure this out , and now they are using the big-little, while Samsung had this on their E5410. Qualcomm always 2years behind.

16. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Really only a year behind. Samsung has been using big.LITTLE architecture for a while now, but it didn't offer much advantage over a 2+ GHz quad Krait. I trust that Google selects what it views to be the state of the art for the Nexus program. Until this year, that has been Krait, which has powered the Nexus 4, 5, and 6.

24. Gp_Customs

Posts: 269; Member since: Jan 14, 2015

Qualcomm still using and trusting on old A9 arm cortex, which is 3 years old. Lmao. Others are on A15, .

41. vuyonc

Posts: 1089; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Krait is A15-based. Qualcomm haven't used the A9 since 2012.

99. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Krait is a hybrid of A15 and A9.

53. ngo2dd

Posts: 896; Member since: Jul 08, 2011

Expected for the fact that it is not an A9 because QC use a custom design. The krait is still as fast as the A15. So arm design is behind the time.

25. Gp_Customs

Posts: 269; Member since: Jan 14, 2015

Coming towards the Exynos 7 Octa, Samsung’s in house offering is no underdog when it comes to hardcore CPU and graphics performance. Featuring four Cortex A53 and four Cortex A57 cores, the Exynos 7 Octa is based on an all new ARMv8, 64 bit architecture. What this essentially means is that even though the higher clocked cores of the Exynos 7 (A57 cores with a frequency of 1.9 GHz) have an overall lower frequency when compared to the 2.7 GHz per core the Snapdragon 805 offers, the Exynos 7 still manages to take the ball when it comes to performance. Here's the epic big joke: S805 runs at 2.7ghz and the Exynos runs at 2.0ghz and still beats the crap out if it. Even cheating didn't help snapdragon.

31. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Not sure where you get "beats the crap out of..." Yes, the the 805 runs much faster to keep up, but the point is that it keeps up. PA did a comparison of the Exynos 7 and 805 Note 4s and it was basically a wash. Exynos has the better CPU, but Adreno is the faster GPU. Neither tech is the best in that particular application, but the 64-bit capable Exynos is more future-proof.

33. Gp_Customs

Posts: 269; Member since: Jan 14, 2015

Read post 22.

38. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Not sure what your point is. You use the clock speed argument against the SD 80x, but then turn around and use it to defend the Exynos. I don't care what the chipset is capable of, only what it actually does. Unless your point is that Samsung downclocks the Exynos to avoid pissing off its SD-equipped owners.

30. ihatelife

Posts: 3; Member since: Jan 20, 2015

"Took them 2 years to figure it out". Ohhhoohohohohooo!! Then why in the world is Intel not doing big.LITTLE for it's chips!! They have been in chip making business business for over 20 years so they should have arrived at the conclusion eons ago!! Right?? Guess what?? Dividing stuff into TS1 and TS2 is easier on R&D resources, time and advertising!! It makes sense given the constraints they have. How do you think they are succeeding 810 and releasing their own architecture in less than a year?? Give them more time and remove the octa core craze and we'll be back to quad cores!!
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